I never chase women, I simply observe the level of attention and enthusism a woman has talking to me, and from that I can clearly tell if she wants me.

PrettyLittlePenguin · 2021-05-31T21:28:13+00:00

This is a very passive role in meeting women though. It's not about whether it's alpha or beta to approach a woman. It's about taking an active role in finding a girl or several girls that fit with you. It's also about being vulnerable and putting yourself out there. She might reject you and you build some mental calluses. Meeting women is more than just "being alpha and having sex"

The other side to your coin ofcourse is also that it's very safe. You will never get rejected so you can protect your identity that way. There are quit some people, that might include you and it might not, that use the same mental tactic of wholesomeness and not approach women to portray themselves as good people. Rather it's a form of weakness and being too set in your comfortable little bubble.

Almighty_Pushh · 2021-05-31T21:52:02+00:00

I think that requires a lot of experience. As a teeenager who is new to game i dm every girl i like (while being ready for rejection) in order to build immunity to rejection hahaha. I still find it a bit hard to read that in person.

TheMailmanic · 2021-06-01T02:30:39+00:00

That's great

However, i've fucked women who initially showed zero interest or even hostility

Assumed attraction until proven otherwise

kazuechan · 2021-06-01T01:15:57+00:00

Some people are just friendly though. I’ve known people who shown signs of interest but they just extroverted. This is not a good route. Especially for ppl like me who are socially awkward around ppl we like.

Super_Ad_1226 · 2021-05-31T21:49:40+00:00

I’ve never cold approached it’s dumb, if someone went up to me I hadn’t even acknowledged it would throw me off from what I’m doing and I could reject them as a result.

I look for IOI ( smiling, keeps holding eye contact with me etc) then I approach ( funnily enough this still can be misread) has a lot more success and I don’t see how people have time to just approach 100 people a week. Shit I got stuff to do, dating and fucking is time consuming as it is

insouciant-321 · 2021-06-01T12:19:07+00:00

Old saying that women choose the men If you believe that is always the case then a good strategy is just watch for the women who signal interest in you. I have to say it's a viable strategy... but you could do better with a more active approach for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, some women feign disinterest even when they are interested.

Secondly, you might not want the women who want you. With a bit of work on your part, a hottie (whatever that means for you) might find herself attracted to you.

Ohdannyboy666 · 2021-06-01T12:41:31+00:00

I live in Thailand , chase women they chase you total opposite usa dating, kinda know how american women get hit on all the time

GracieFairmont86 · 2021-06-01T02:03:57+00:00

Finally somebody knows what they are doing.😎

If a person has a normal human ability to read people, they dont need any elaborate gameplan, this is the difference between the guy who chases women with nothing to show for it, and a guy who gets chased and has many options.

I find that this singular ability to gauge a womans interest through her tone/dialog and her non non verbal signals/vibe practically eliminates rejection and bad interactions because you arent hitting on anybody that isnt interested, you are simply going on the green light instead of trying to run through the red. If she is interested right from the start it is very difficult to fail, and any man will realize real quick all that time and effort spent on "chasing" and "gaming" and studying p.u.a. strategy was utterly wasted.

The only thing the p.u.a. community is correct about is chasing the best version of yourself. By NOT chasing women(see above) you enable yourself to do exactly that, and still have abundance.

HeiHuiUtRerHa · 2021-06-01T00:12:50+00:00

You're not good with women.

Peachmuffin91 · 2021-06-01T12:15:50+00:00

I agree with the not chasing part, you lost me after that.

ImJustSo · 2021-06-01T15:28:52+00:00

If a woman really likes me, I can see how much attention she's giving me, her enthusiasm and that's how I know if a woman likes me.

No, that's just what you perceive as a woman liking you and so that's to what you respond. You do not know every woman. You do not know every woman's way of acting when she's interested. You do not know every woman's background, creed, beliefs, etc that cause them to act or not act in certain ways, regardless of who they like.

I think this is the most wholesome way to go about dating really, all that approach nonsense and strategies are just silly.

I disagree. I see nothing wholesome about the way you go about dating. It's a different way, but it carries absolutely no moral weight. You think you're better than someone else? Big surprise. I'm not sure why you're on this board discussing your moral beliefs and trying to force your perceived morals on others.

"It's alpha to chase and have sex with women" Well, per that definition, you might as well go have sex with a prostitute, think that's alpha? I think not.

What are you even talking about here? Why did you bring this up? Is this how you perceive men who approach women? Lol The only way a man can be someone who approaches women is an alpha prostitute fucker? What, dude?

If the ultimate goal of yours is to have sex with hot girls, go buy time with a prostitute, they're properly hotter than the girls you try to pick up on the street.

What? You're crazy, dude. Your beliefs are all fucked up, man. Only hot women are whores? Or only whores are hot? Or only men who pay get to have sex with hot women? This point you've made makes no sense, because you start with fallacy, build on fallacy, therefore concludes with fallacy.

But really that's how I see pickup guys, you're the male equivalent of female sluts.

Oh, okay. So you're a puritanical school marm? By the end of your post, I'm entirely disgusted with you, your morals, and your beliefs. You are judgemental, insecure, morally depraved, and self centered. You cannot see the world through the eyes of others, because you're too busy comparing yourself to them. You do it to try and place yourself above them, and ironically it does exactly the opposite.

Go away, go back to church or something, grandma.

SuperMutantHunter · 2021-06-01T10:52:48+00:00

Finally someone else says it

lolredditmodslikecp · 2021-06-01T13:49:44+00:00

So you do what you’re suppose to do? LOOOL #PointlessAssPost

TransitionNormal1387 · 2021-06-01T23:51:19+00:00

So where have you met these women that give you signals? The ones you actually went on dates with? Is it a job you do, do they dm you? You run/part of a social group?

18cmOfGreatness · 2021-06-02T16:46:25+00:00

If you need to know if a girl wants you or not and try to observe her to find out then you aren't better than those guys who chase girls. Just instead of chasing you are searching those who already interested in you. Guess what, in 90% of cases a woman doesn't know if she likes you or not before talking for some time. It's not something predetermined beforehand.

You can be active in meeting women while not chasing them like a horny teenager. You can be a man who knows what he wants and expects women to give it to him, but at the same time gives them a chance to get to know you while you learn more about them. You don't need to know if a woman likes you or not, it's not something you should think about in the first place. What should be important is if she's ready to give you what you want and accept your rules. This being the case, most women also need some time to accept who's the boss. PUA just try to fake this approach as they don't really have standards and didn't make this change from chasing to choosing. But caring so much about a woman's interest and only being with those who are DTF from the start is a very weak position that don't lead to much results unless you are really attractive and is ready to settle for low-quality girls.

Hayden_Beroc · 2021-06-03T14:46:01+00:00

You my friend is someone we in the pua community call a classy men too afraid to get his ego hurt by hotter girl that you'll ever meet somewhere. Picking up women on the street is about getting girl without having to rely on your working environment, social circle or tinder and this skill set will make you disregard attention that girl give you bucuz you know you can get that when you approach. you will start to look for true connection like chick will say to you when they reject you bucuz of not enough connection. lol

Title	I never chase women, I simply observe the level of attention and enthusism a woman has talking to me, and from that I can clearly tell if she wants me.
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