I took molly and for five hours was a GOD to all women. Can I reproduce this sober? You want to read this.

cyniko · 2012-01-27T09:59:54+00:00

"re-producing" this feeling would just involve getting your body and mind to feel the happiest they've ever felt in your whole life..ever. Yeah it's not that simple to re-produce this state unfortunately.

Getting into "state" is something that comes easier for some than for others, and that's why a few drinks usually gets most guys loosened up and ready to be fun, outcome independent, and confident. Molly is basically cheating, you're literally on cloud 9. Even the most timid AA-stricken chodes would probably have a pretty successful night on molly. Interesting FR nonetheless.

PyouA · 2012-01-27T16:55:34+00:00

It's important to remember that this is the experience of someone who is high on drugs. The reality of the situation is probably a bit different, people are probably a little freaked out that his pupils are massive and that he seems to be getting off by rubbing their shoulder.

Let's remember that MDMA is chemically activating your brain's reward mechanisms, so even if you look like an idiot you feel like you are awesome. The result is that a lot of times you might be doing something creepy or awkward but you are totally unaware because this part of your brain's feedback loop is no longer working. It is basically a drug that makes you feel good - beyond that you aren't going to get some great wisdom or understanding of social dynamics or anything else.

If this guy did this many approaches without drugs he probably would have done better.

Rockyrambo · 2012-01-27T18:01:39+00:00

I cant help but feel like everybody was watching you because you were the guy that was CLEARLY on drugs.

documents1856 · 2012-01-27T10:47:31+00:00

I am very familiar with this, but usually any impairment can put me into an alpha state where I do substantially better than sober. Even a good sober adrenalin rush does wonders, but what I always try to take from it was that I did well then and fundamentally I am still capable of doing all the same things sober, its just a state of mind.

throwawaysed369 · 2012-01-27T11:52:13+00:00

Look up the "personal power meditation" forums for other similar experiences with game on drugs ( tramadol to be specific).

Also, check the comparison with Aaron Sleazy who seems to be able to achieve the same state just because he's been meditating daily for half his life.

RedErin · 2012-01-27T15:09:05+00:00

My Story

couldbewrong · 2012-01-27T16:52:12+00:00

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Stythe · 2012-01-27T15:32:41+00:00

Yeah, last time I had M I basically claimed a girl at the party and had her following me around like a lost dog. Even during that time I remember thinking "I need to replicate this sober." It's all mindset though. Be happy. You won't replicate a roll per say but the confidence and carefree attitude can be replicated.

BurnerSkunk · 2012-01-27T16:47:57+00:00

Sometimes when you try and reproduce that feeling, people ask you "Are you rolling right now?".. And you can just smirk.. Then they start treating you like you are rolling, and then other people start treating you that way, and then you start treating yourself that way, and then you regain a lot of that feeling and social momentum..

But, its never quite the same and you are never quite as comfortable. Drugs are cheat codes.

Leshow · 2012-01-27T17:14:24+00:00

the drug helped you get into a good state, which is why you were so successful.

so the question you should ask is: "how do I get in a good state?"

edit: reproducing the molly-like effect may be difficult. but it's possible. i used to always drink when i went out, even if it was just a couple to loosen up my tongue. but since i was training for a bodybuilding competition, i had to stop drinking. this is where i learned how to raise my energy level and put myself in a social state without using a drug as an aide. so yeah, it's possible, but it just takes practice.

2012-01-27T16:20:00+00:00

Now that you know how you do with a drug, you can try to emulate it without drugs. I don't want to be a downer, but I was taking speed everytime I went out, and I ended up with experiences like yours. You might just be high and think everything is good, when you think about it again, you didn't have a goal except have fun, but everything on E is fun... Try to get numbers or go home with a girl next time.

Drugs are like cheat codes, the guys might have not been approaching, but they weren't on drugs (I assume).

bolxrex · 2012-01-27T20:19:23+00:00

I have struggled with molls in the same way. It's a double edged sword. You have to understand what is happening in your brain chemically to really understand why you feel invincible, completely positive, and fearless. Your brain is overflowing with serotonin, all the reserves that you have already produced and stored hit your brain at once. In a sense it is possible to reach this state by learning how to make yourself happy at will, to truly feel happy, and learn to mentally pull yourself up from the bootstraps in any situation. True outcome independence, and self-validation. All your energy that night came from within, and nothing depended on any outside stimulus. To suggest that one can control the chemicals in his or her own mind, and willfully bring on a mental state that can rival what psycho-active drugs can produce is tough to say really. Maybe with intense meditation by a completely focused and controlled mind this is possible but I can't imagine this could be achieved with anything short of years of dedication and practice.

notlurkinganymoar · 2012-01-27T22:50:37+00:00

Great reflection. I had forgotten how good I can be with women while on e. It's something completely unnatural, yet works so well. I think if we can break it down to how/why it works, we can figure out how to replicate. Two cents:

Being in an emotional state. From my experience, e tends to put me in a very emotional place. E.g., I feel everything a lot more. I love everyone. I am very open to new experiences and very socially aware of people's feelings and the undercurrent of the situation. From my experience, this is how girls experience life (although probably to a lesser degree). Once you get on "their plane" of thinking, it is a lot easier to relate.
You are the happiest guy at the bar. Usually when I'm rolling, I have this big, stupid grin on my face. It's no secret that people like to be around happy people. This is because people like to feel good. If you're in a great mood, it can often be infectious. Thus, people tend to like you more (because you make them smile, etc.).
You care about other people, thus make them feel good about themselves. Because I am at a much more emotional place, I can feel how other people are feeling. Therefore, in order to keep my good feelings going, I want to make sure other people are having a good time too. If you are doing everything in your power to make someone else feel good about themselves, it is very hard for them to not like you. The secret to people is they just want to be liked.
You are not hitting on women. At least, not overtly. When I'm on e, sex is the furthest thing from my mind. I dunno if I can even have sex on e. However, I love to touch and make out with women. Once you remove sex from the equation, it is much easier to talk to women. This is probably why Style teaches disqualification. Not only does it make the woman the chaser, but it lowers her guard. Beware though, coming in with this state makes it incongruent to escalate to SNL.
You actually care. The last part of it is, I think, the genuineness of it all. You are not coming in with any motivations. You simply want to have a good time and you know that by making other people have a good time that you also will have a good time. By removing ulterior motives from the equation, you make it much easier to relate to other people and actually listen to them; not only to what they are saying, but to what they are projecting (with body language, facial expressions, etc.) as well.

In some respects, all this is very basic PU that goes along with Social Game. I am glad you brought it up though, because with so much theory going around it is often easy to forget this and become outcome dependent.

Now that I think about it, if you watch someone like Tyler Durden, I think he does this same exact thing, but he uses something other than molly to get into state. He instead does a ton of sets so that by the time he's ready to hit hard later in the night, he's all amped up, socially calibrated, and ready to go.

AnnoAnon · 2012-01-27T12:14:57+00:00

Molly, well what I do I take the last great trip (there is always music)

I play the songs from that trip in my car, and sing them in my head. Gives me a temporary high and goose bumps. Try force a few mini flash backs to the last time.

pause

remember how happy you were no go fucking do that all the time.

yokhai · 2012-01-27T15:07:37+00:00

A) What is molly?

B) Yes, yes you can.

Also your hyperbole is really annoying. Stick to the details and keep it simple.

BusStation16 · 2012-01-27T17:34:42+00:00

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ohstrangeone · 2012-01-27T19:12:02+00:00

Yes.

Getting your brain to go along with it and let you, without any 'assistance'? Good luck ;)

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