Lift Weights for Yourself, Not for Women

GayLubeOil · 2014-03-31T18:38:04+00:00

Lifting weights is about sacrifice. Enjoy your beginner gains while they last, however eventually you are going to have to do some brutal shit to progress. If you want to look better than everyone else your going to have to do things most people are unwilling to do.

alphamale31 · 2014-03-31T16:38:58+00:00

You need to be honest with yourself.

Many people claim they just lift for themselves and do it because they enjoy it, that may be your primary reason. But the second reason is for girls, just face the fact that you want to get sexy as fuck so you can attract girls.

Its crazy as fuck seeing guys lie about this shit. Like the male version of hamstering.

Edit: Yes i realize you can still lift for yourself, but the perk and benefits of sexual attraction you gain from lifting is driving a lot of it as well as the fun in it.

The beginning phase where your main motivation comes from getting girls to notice you still is present in later stages. I've been on high school football teams, guys who train for strength but still get upset cause they aint got no abs to show to girls but can squat 400 and bench 225. I'm not saying guys who say they don't lift for girls are liars. I'm saying guys that deny that it is a factor in there overall motivation are, and that the only thing is driving them is themselves. Yeah sure maybe there are some people who really do not care, but thats very rare and the people lifting to be AESTHETIC are probably not one of them.

AWiseBro · 2014-03-31T15:00:45+00:00

However someone like my brother (the most beta and blue pill stubborn shit around) is younger, out of shape, dresses like hes a grandfather, and has no motivation, he started working out to "get girls" in his eyes. But how long did he last? 1 week. He even bought a treadmill. Idiot.

Instead of shitting on him you should fucking help him. As his brother you're one of the few males in his life where what you say and do will strike him at his core. What if he figured all this shit out, you never found your way and he then he just neglected you?

SRS_alphamail · 2014-03-31T19:16:30+00:00

Guys who won't admit getting girls is one of the main reasons they lift and claim they lift for themselves are as bad as the chicks who say shit like "I wear makeup and low cut tops FOR ME".

Hamstering at its finest.

itsemalkay · 2014-03-31T15:02:09+00:00

Just wondering, but how much can you benchpress?

Kvantemekanik · 2014-03-31T22:42:28+00:00

Don't kid yourself.

trophyboyfriend · 2014-03-31T15:23:49+00:00

The big 6 - bench, squat, deadlift, standing military press, rows, and pullups. Do those and you will get strong.

You have to do it for you because it's not a miracle cure-all. Getting into shape won't magically make women start hitting on you, or even notice you.

Case in point: I dropped 25 lbs, have 12% body fat, have a visible 4-pack now, can DL 360lbs.... do women check me out more? Nope. Do they approach me more? Nope. Do they even notice me more? Only in that there's a big scary-looking guy... I'm threatened, so I'd better walk faster way. Has anything in my life really changed for the better? I'm stronger now, and I can lift more... my knees are worse off and my shoulder is worse off, but hey... at least I lift weights!

abXcv · 2014-03-31T15:12:55+00:00

Many people come to the gym and go, because they are totally training for outside benefits, and very few people have the ability to do a difficult thing that they hate for years on end.

The trick is to find what you like about the actual act of lifting, and the short term benefits - and focus on them.

I love the feeling after a heavy squat set, or a max deadlift, and that's what keeps me coming back.

Everything else is just a bonus on top.

NeoBushi · 2014-03-31T17:10:49+00:00

I am a strong believer in the Paleolithic mentality. I have simple needs, I want to be strong and healthy, eat good food, and have sex. When you think about it, being strong is a necessity to the human animal. A strong man is a better hunter, hence, he gets access to better food. A strong man beats his rivals and gets the pussy. His strength gives him confidence and vigor and that is why he does better with women, not just because he "looks hawt".

Oh_FuFu · 2014-03-31T18:34:41+00:00

Man ladies love chicken legs, just work out those bis, tris and ceps, the chicken legs is what gets the most attention from dee ladiez.

gwizmcpyro · 2014-03-31T15:45:07+00:00

Would lifting competitively be the same as doing it yourself. I like to push myself to see how strong I can get, and I believe the looks will follow the strength gains, is it not good to get that self validation when you realize you have a lift number bigger than your friend's?

hyorilee · 2014-03-31T16:06:27+00:00

i personally started working out in order to be attractive to girls. That was my initial motivator. It changed eventually when I got to see how fun it was to be athletic, in shape and all that jazz. What motivates you may not motivate someone else and vice versa. In the end, it's all about the person's will.

bama79rolltide · 2014-03-31T18:15:02+00:00

Squat, deadlift, bench press, bent over row, shoulder press.

Are those the main exercises to do simply to get strong?

2014-03-31T18:30:15+00:00

I got to the gym for myself. I am not currently lifting a ton because I trying to slim down a bit. Down about 15lbs, half way to my goal. Also, not trying to slim down for the girls, doing it for my health and just tired of feeling a like a fat ass.

Khazrihl · 2014-03-31T18:42:11+00:00

Great message. I quit smoking two weeks ago (not for women) so that I could better urge myself to start working out (not for women).

raceAround126 · 2014-03-31T20:11:49+00:00

I'm on my second week of a beginners lifting programme. It's taking a while to get the form down (I'm basically doing the main day lift and doing the others too but with super light weights just to get the form right) mixed in with my regular cardio stuff.

Lifting does wonders for your mindset. I don't know the words but even though it tires you out, it's a good kind of tired.

If I was doing this for womankind, I doubt I'd be as enthusiastic about it.

newpopehere1 · 2014-04-01T03:04:47+00:00

OP dont come here dictating what lifting is to different ppl. For some ppl it IS about getting pussy and theres nothing wrong with it. Stop judging ppl and enforcing your own opinion of what it is. This post is just silly.

avinasser · 2014-04-01T04:34:53+00:00

Lifting weights is as bad as video-games when a beta mind grabs a hold of it. Don't lift weights "for yourself" if you have stupid issues with your self-image. Stupid-ass bodybuilders and those giant power-lifters generally look like freaks.

Lifting weights to be healthier and stronger is the ideal. To make your body something that is better. Don't use it to plug the holes that are in your ego.

hamstercide · 2014-04-01T09:27:40+00:00

What's your routine?

2014-04-01T16:24:49+00:00

If you're lifting weights to get women lift weights to get women if you lift weights to enjoy lifting do that. One isn't better than the other, don't give me this holier than thou "pure" bullshit. Do what you want but always check to be sure you're internally consistent. I always stop and ask myself "why am I doing this" and if the reason I come up with is bullshit I stop.

Live your life on your own terms, don't let this guy or anyone else tell you what being a "real man" is.

Jrix · 2014-04-01T19:41:32+00:00

Is there a guide somewhere? I go to lift weights, I do it like 5 times, then I sit there "hurrrrr" and then go to play videogames or something.

HighAngleAlpha0331 · 2014-04-15T20:39:01+00:00

Females have no idea or ability to understand the reality of lifting weights. A guy will see his developed upper specs, nice posterior Delts and understand why his figure looks so great. A chick just sees a "hot guy". The reality that's in my mind when I lift isn't the reality that a chick will observe.

HighAngleAlpha0331 · 2014-04-16T04:14:23+00:00

Females have no idea or ability to understand the reality of lifting weights. A guy will see his developed upper specs, nice posterior Delts and understand why his figure looks so great. A chick just sees a "hot guy". The reality that's in my mind when I lift isn't the reality that a chick will observe.

garlicextract · 2014-03-31T14:47:18+00:00

I'd agree. My aim is to be competitive, but already I'm heavier, stronger, more flexible, agile.

Too many guys in the gym just get in my way trying to impress women, they all look the same, chat the same game, biceps, chest, shoulders.

The male body wants to get beaten hard with weights, it wants to get stronger than the other men around, it wants to be broken and build itself up again stronger, you literally get the gratification of a good workout chemically as you do from sex.

So what if you're shredded? They'll give you loads of attention but still wrap you around their finger nonetheless.

FemtoG · 2014-03-31T16:10:51+00:00

There's nothing wrong with lifting for women. You have a goal (to get women), and you're putting in the effort to achieve it the best you can.

Way worse is lifting cause of peer pressure (from TRP of all places).

ashastry · 2014-03-31T16:40:10+00:00

Sex is too much cardio anyway, totally kills your gains.

updown667 · 2014-03-31T16:34:15+00:00

For me weightlifting was one of the best things that I've ever done. I started out skinny and weak as fuck - physically non threatening or dominating in any way. I had the body of a 15 year old boy.

Body definitely is a massive factor in attraction, respect, and your status. You notice it all the time - the guys who are noticeably built and strong stand out, they have a much greater presence about them and naturally appear more dominant and alpha. Luckily I realised this all too well after being called out on being skinny in school, by friends, family and at work (by a fucking landwhale too, which was quite hilarious - i called her out on being fat as fuck for it).

I started lifting 2.5 years ago, having not much knowledge on what to do. My starting lifts were something along the line of 40kg bench press for 3 reps, OHP 20kg, squat 50kg for a couple of reps deadlift of around 70kg for a few reps too. A lot of poor compliance to routines in the start hindered progress but I still did gain strength and muscle. Then I got more and more knowledge, started making consistent and impressive progress. 6 months ago I had 5rms of 120kg bench, 75kg ohp, 155kg squat 180kg dl. I looked decent. And over the wohle course of going from skinny to strong my confidence improved massively, i did better with girls, went from being a virgin to getting regular sex, respected more by people, stood out more. It was absolutely massive for me - it helps in every way.

A further point, 6 months ago I took the leap and began taking steroids - its the best decision I have actually made - confidence significantly goes up, hornier, interactions with girls are better, stronger, fuller look to muscles, happier, more energy, more focus etc.

PaulRivers10 · 2014-03-31T16:57:49+00:00

I always see these posts from the lifting crowd.

Here's my story - I started lifting because I was reaching a point where I was starting to get fat (had never been fat before that, but got a desk job...). Everyone said "Starting Strength", so I bought the book, even bought the video, and started lifting.

First thing that happened is that I got bigger legs and waist, but not bigger arms. I looked like an idiot. Searching around, I found out that this was actually a common complaint about Starting Strength - it works your lower body twice as much as your upper body, the exact opposite of the proportions most people want to work to look good.

In addition, my flexibility decreased, my joints ached - partly because of the aggressive lifting goals of Starting Strength and it's assumption that you have the recovery of an 18 year old. But while I was contemplating what to do about all of this, the worst thing happened - I woke up one morning after lifting to find my right leg in horrible pain.

For the next 3 months, my leg remained in pain. Frankly, before this, women had seemed less interested in me, partly as a result of my change in attitude and posture due to lifting - I was constantly tired, and felt achy from the lifting.

But after this it was even worse - there was 1 girl in particular where it was painfully obvious that she had been attracted to me, then I got up for something and walked with my now-gimp leg like I was an 80 year old man, and I watched the attraction just drop out of her face. That one was obvious, but I think there were several more that I missed because of this where it wasn't so in my face.

After 3 months the constant pain finally went away, but it was replaced by not being able to put weight on my leg in a certain way. If I did, it felt like stepping on tinfoil inside my hip, or it would feel incredibly painful. I spent around $700 on doctors visits and other stuff trying to fix it (yoga, massage - these did help but didn't totally fix it) - the doctor told me I would need surgery, but I felt like he was trying to rush me into it so I didn't do it. Finally I fixed the last of it using something I found online called "Defranco's Limber 11", a dynamic sports warmup routine. That finally fixed 98% of it - but it took over a year to get back to my leg working right without pain.

Also, frankly, another thing that helped was doing those exercise videos that have you jumping around a lot. It got the blood and fluids moving around my body and helped with my leg, made my arms feel better to.

Bottom Line - it's never worth permanent injury to lift. Don't buy into the bro "just do it man" mentality of lifting without doing warmups - I suggest Defranco's 11, plus doing warmup sets before your main set (so you do like 25% of the weight for the first set, 50% of the weight for the second set, then finally do your full weight). I also think Starting Strength sucks, as it doesn't include warmups in the program itself, and it's the opposite of what you want to do for aesthetics anyways. (I know, I know, now I'll get downvotes and negatives from the SS-hamster crowd, a fat guy said it's magic for everyone so it must be, right?)

2014-03-31T16:43:01+00:00

Let's go gaylubeoil get in here and talk to us about how to form our muscles like gorillas do.

2014-03-31T17:40:52+00:00

Just got back into it after a year out of the gym.

Faw king soo pah.

Title	Lift Weights for Yourself, Not for Women
Author	musicvita25
Upvotes	84
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Date	March 31, 2014 2:35 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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