Check Girls Out Mid-Conversation

recyclablebanthas · 2017-09-08T04:01:06+00:00

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Firstly, thanks to OP for putting this in my head. Good god. :P

2: Re: the debate about whether this "works"

While /u/Elotar goes too far in saying that "no girl" would go for this sort of approach, it is clear, if nothing else, that not all women go for the approach outlined in this thread.

Meanwhile, what /u/Yass_King said is a good point, though it's covered in sarcasm. Elotar doesn't speak for all women. That's absolutely true. But she does speak for herself, and one part of the female population, as she is definitely not the only girl who thinks this way.

So you both have good points. The only folly here is in trying to argue that some extreme has to be true...... that all women go for this approach (false), that men don't have anything to learn from women when it comes to seduction (false), or that this approach won't work on any girl (false).

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It really comes down to what kind of interaction a guy wants.

If he wants casual sex, then the approach outlined in this post will definitely screen out girls who don't want casual sex. The only downside for casually minded guys, is that this will also screen out girls who might want casual sex, but prefer a dude who isn't so obvious.
If a guy wants a relationship, then this sort of focus on the physical aspect of things, while it will get a certain kind of girl, will come off too physically focused for girls who are looking for something more comprehesive. Like a relationship.

So does it work? Yes. But be mindful that ANY approach has the side-effect of screening people out and attracting others. And it might screen out people you don't realize.

Austonmatthews345 · 2017-09-08T04:02:07+00:00

Real talk, I'm going to try this on my first date with a girl from tinder. No fucks given?

hauswyfetechno · 2017-09-08T05:16:38+00:00

This is good up till

If a girl gets bitchy, you're getting through to her.

which... no. Like sometime's that's the case but more often than not shes being bitchy because she finds you annoying and/or gross. This kind of advice is what leads socially clueless people to land themselves (and others) in gutwrenchingly awkward situations

Zoidberg22 · 2017-09-08T01:12:20+00:00

So the goal is to get caught looking?

Elotar · 2017-09-07T16:47:37+00:00

No girl wants you to ignore her intelligence because you got distracted by her ass. No way has this ever worked before

BestSC86 · 2017-09-08T22:27:34+00:00

I have come to the conclusion that this group is posting this cringe worthy advice so that their competition in the bars and clubs are so autistic doochey that when they come in with their weak game, they look like smooth, sauve, regular dudes in comparison.

Just no way to logically rationalize a PUA "expert" suggesting to one set of readers that they tell girls to "sush" in order to throw out a line about how great said girl's ass is on a Wednesday and then a day later suggest to another set of readers that they need to act more like feminine girls when gaming chicks.

This has to be a 5th column operation attempting to lessen the competition around their bars and clubs.

Ironmonkey_ · 2017-09-08T01:05:49+00:00

It is known.

Massaginator · 2017-09-08T03:34:37+00:00

Dear Ms. Elotar,

You should notice that in his narrative she is talking to him: in other words, she has hooked and is investing. He's not having to plow his way forward against an reluctant candidate: she's interested enough in his company to be making an effort.

If "nice ass" was his opener it would be a high risk, low percentage gambit which could pay off in rare instances where a woman is already fairly horny (eg., ovulating) and looking for an excuse and a suitable candidate to fuck but for the most part we are all very well aware it is of itself far more likely to turn a woman off. If he tried something like this during the transaction before she's attracted or, more importantly, before she's qualified herself to him in some way it probably wouldn't work as well either. In these situations, Ms. Elotar, you would probably be right.

However, where a woman has already hooked and is investing it entirely makes sense that this is quite unlikely to undermine the interaction. In fact, if the interaction hasn't already taken a sexualized turn she may very well be wondering to herself "When is he going to try to sexualize our conversation? Doesn't he see that I am a sexual being with physical needs? Doesn't he find me attractive? Is he one of those asexual guys who isn't interested in sex?" Chances are if a man appears to be "exercising restraint" in sexualizing the encounter up to the point that she's investing like this (although we understand he's just having difficulty sexualizing things) it may very well actually be a relief to her once he does make the interaction sexual this way.

We've all studied and practiced some "endless conversation" strategies like threading but sometimes the stuff women talk about are just not hooking with us and we can't really figure out where we're going to take conversation once she finishes talking. Other times we won't have as big a problem. I save a tactic like this for those instances where I'm sensing I'm not going to be able thread the conversation any further or constructively.

Literally, killing two birds with one stone: salvage a dead ending conversation thread by turning things sexual.

God willing, this actually makes her forget what she was talking about so you can just drop that fruitless subject altogether. It would put one in the semi-awkward position of having to initiate a new topic but there are be so many things one could do to deal with that:

Move her to an object in the venue that you make up some stupid or even sexual backstory about,
Take her for a shooter (if a woman is investing in the interaction like this there is no reason to not buy her a drink). If it makes you feel better, order a "blow job", a "big O", a "wet dream" or a "g-spot" to keep things sexual.
Take her to the dance floor.
Keep the sexualized subject matter going (now that the toothpaste is out of the tube) like "What? You think I'm not paying attention to the sexiest part of your body? Which part do you think that is?" She'll counter with "My mind." The best answer is "Really? So you think you give good mind, do you? Prove it." If she bites (and she will because she will want to show you how she's classy sexy) you could even fuck with her efforts… by yawning. More importantly, however, she will be qualifying herself to you sexually.

Of course, if she continues to give you much more nonsense over it you could tease her about being a "lights-off:under-the-covers:starfish" type of girl. That's likely to get some push back in a good way because it's a disqualification with the subtext "you're not worthy of my sex".

If she continues raising objections, then either (a) she's ridiculously uptight sex-shaming who will try hold you off for months before you find out she is absolutely useless in the sack anyway, or (b) you've miscalculated her level of investment… or both. Either way, there are better fish in the sea.

So you're not entirely wrong, Ms. "Elotar".

But Señor Castillo is absolutely, entirely right.

Xanarxses · 2017-09-08T17:42:23+00:00

Uhhhhh

Seriously though I can see a month later and there will be a lot of dudes with reconfigured faces.

Maybe not a lot but most of those that try this.

I mean if this shit is for advanced dudes, they're probably already getting enough ass as is.

Great post though. Entertaining.

amohnacs · 2017-09-08T18:10:50+00:00

Thumbs up. My two cents is that if you think this is not valid or won't work you need to take a step back from this forum and understand the first part of "seduction" and pickup.

That is social conditioning.

We are raised to believe that women don't like these sorts of things because hundreds/thousands of years beta males suppressed women's sexuality to increase their chances of getting some. Understand that girls like sex just as much as men. If you don't buy that, imagine you're talking to a girl and she starts checking you out. How would that make you feel?

souljabri557 · 2017-09-08T01:07:34+00:00

YE MY BOY HECTOR DELIVERING WISDOM

BestSC86 · 2017-09-08T04:18:34+00:00

Oh lord...another piece of epic blowout advice.

Dudes, just remember to charge up your GoPro before following this advice on the the girl down at the coffee shop...and post to Youtube.

Because there is never enough video of epic blowouts on there with awkward autistic spergs getting the beat down from real attractive girls being stopped mid convo to tell her to "sush" because you want to tell her "she has a nice ass" and "you are going to be her lover" since you love being the a lover of women and you want to do the same to her.....bhahahhahahahahaahhha <rolling eyes>

SyrusDrake · 2017-09-07T22:22:55+00:00

If I talk to people, I'd rather talk to them than be a creep who checks them out...

Lambdal7 · 2017-09-08T12:11:24+00:00

It needs to be said, that this only works if these 3 conditions are met

The girl is a very confident girl
You're in a club
She has already have shown interest and flirted with you

You'll get blown out if any of these conditions are met

The girl insecure
You are not in a club setting
The girl hasn't shown interest

Pieces of advice loke this should come with a disclaimer like that.

letsgetrandy · 2017-09-07T16:02:20+00:00

This is something I do quite often, and have actually written about here several times.

My favorite variation on this is, while she's talking, I put my fingers on her lips to stop her, and then say something like "damn, you really have a nice ass!" Most times, the reaction is a surprised gasp, to which I say, "sorry... you were saying?"

Title	Check Girls Out Mid-Conversation
Author	Hector_Castillo
Upvotes	126
Comments	47
Date	September 7, 2017 3:36 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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