I see plenty of guys here who whine and whine yet actively reject any new advice or criticism and it makes me sick 😷

Kenic_In_MD · 2019-02-19T17:32:48+00:00

More of a PSA than anything but there are about 5 or so troll accounts in this subreddit. If they PM you or post, do not respond. Dont know why they do it. But they do

noprideinsomniac95 · 2019-02-20T15:45:39+00:00

Just like with anything, people want to believe that there's an easy solution to their problems, instead of admitting that they need to make long term, difficult changes. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Don't waste too much time on these people.

greenlittleman · 2019-02-20T00:00:13+00:00

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R_n_P · 2019-02-19T19:27:34+00:00

People who aren't open to new ideas and never take responsibility for their own actions lives in a world of fantasy. They're basically insane, doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Let them hit rock bottom and that's when they really will take the time to understand the real world.

You can only lead a horse to water, you can't make him drink it.

Side note: Those guys just don't really want to accept the fact that they ARE needy, weak, feminine, and get buttthurt when you call them out. They don't take constructive criticism well.

carrawayjames · 2019-02-19T19:37:25+00:00

That's why Alot of the time a guys complaining about not getting a girl I usually say that sucks and keep it moving. It's funny how a guy who is constantly told bad advice like just be yourself will apply that even though it never works and as soon as you give him different ones he writes it off.

I just grown to realize 80 percent of the male population forever always be Simps and will never break out of that shell. Harsh but it's The truth

Simply_Bry · 2019-02-19T18:29:49+00:00

I used to be like this too. I loved to complain about my problems, but only when people don't provide me a solution, because I am way smarter than everyone else and tried everything :)

seller_anon · 2019-02-19T18:49:34+00:00

Hey the rational appreciate your contributions. Keep trying and together, we will conquer.

noprideinsomniac95 · 2019-02-20T06:49:50+00:00

Yeah man it’s incredibly frustrating helping people who cry for help then refuse everything you say. Especially when you know what you’re talking about and you’ve been through similar problems before and you know what can help them, but they just will refuse and point out how they are a special case.

That said, I think attempting to understand and acknowledge their situation with patience and empathy first before offering solutions is the way for them to hear you better. I heard this concept from Steven Covey’s book 7 habits of highly effective people. The habit is called “Seek first to understand then be understood.” Which means not just understanding the problem, but also the emotions, the life script, the story, the background of the person, their whole paradigm and where they are coming from and reflecting this back to them until they are just nodding their heads with you, and that’s finally when you offer advice and solutions as they now have the space to listen to you.

dailymanup · 2019-02-19T18:42:49+00:00

There will always be guys like that. They will reject ideas and continue to struggle with game. That will continue until they come to a simple realization: If they just REFRAME EVERYTHING as being beneficial to them, they're life with hot chicks will take off faster than they can imagine.

Chick rejects you. Chick fucks you. Chick ignores you. Chick jumps all over you. Guy gives you good advice. Guy gives you bad advice. Doesn't matter. EVERYTHING that happens is "working in your favor" and is "for your benefit."

When these guys reframe their lives with this approach, the hot chicks start appearing EVERYWHERE.

yobbl · 2019-02-19T23:35:07+00:00

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.” - Albert Einstein

mikew_reddit · 2019-02-20T00:05:31+00:00

A lot of people argue, despite being given solid advice.
Arguing is a defensive mechanism to protect a fragile ego.
They are easy to identify. Ignore them since advice is being wasted.
The smart ones will shut up and listen, even if they disagree.

seneca8586 · 2019-02-20T00:34:46+00:00

You have to realize you're speaking to inexperienced men and there is a reason for that. You also have to consider the fact that you're on the internet. Meaning, people will act more irrationally on the internet than they will in real life because of the anonymity. Take these facts into consideration and that might reduce your frustration.

Edit: grammar fix

JinTheUnleashed · 2019-02-19T21:37:21+00:00

I feel you man lol.

Funkimonkey · 2019-02-20T15:31:18+00:00

Lol at the whiny post with promo at the end...

Title	I see plenty of guys here who whine and whine yet actively reject any new advice or criticism and it makes me sick 😷
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	69
Comments	27
Date	February 19, 2019 5:20 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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