Is it possible that men get raped more than women?

jessi387 · 2024-07-09T06:09:02+00:00

In US prisons yes

This-Top7398 · 2024-07-09T12:03:20+00:00

Nope they’ll say you wanted and enjoyed it

garbage_raccoon · 2024-07-09T06:51:42+00:00

If your definition of rape is "sexual intercourse without consent," then yeah, absolutely. Data out of the US suggests gender parity in sexual victimization, and it's not hard to imagine that male victims could just be harder to count. Men are less likely to discuss their victimization. And in surveys, more women admit to committing rape than men do.

While I tend to assume men and women are raped in equal numbers, it's entirely possible that rape of males is more common.

otacon444 · 2024-07-09T07:08:44+00:00

Let’s use the example of a guy getting drunk and a girl driving him home. He clearly can’t consent to sex. She sleeps with him. That’s rape, in the most real sense. I think this happens more than we realize. We just accept it and call the guy a stud.

OneGrindAtaTime · 2024-07-09T06:49:36+00:00

The definition of rape is defined for females. It should be changed to also allow males to be seen as raped. Then the numbers would be vastly different.

Rape should be defined as nonconsensual genital injury or forced sexualization, de-sexualization or sterilization. (remove the evil concept that it only counts if it's penis in vagina)

If so, then very close to all adult males have been raped. ALMOST 100% of males. Infants with permanent knife rape through mutilation of penis in circumcision, molestation and most commonly Boys experience genital trauma frequently because media and feminist emphasis on attacking male genitals. For example, there are 7500+ movies/tv depicting penis or testicle injury as entertainment. Sexual assault and mutilation is portrayed as funny, no big deal, encouraged by feminists as a good thing, or the male deserves it for being born defective.

The injury itself is wrong, but sadly, genital trauma is only taken seriously if it's against a female. The genitals of males are exploited. The more extreme the injury the better such as castration, exploding penis, including on trailers to advertise that the show will be featuring male genital injury comedy. Emasculation is the most common element of all western media. It's so wrong and so normalized. Males are gaslighted to then have to pretend like it doesn't matter, like males don't matter, that we are not able to have a divine masculine but instead only a negative dehumanized masculine. Start looking for it. Really pay attention and you'll realize emasculation, it's almost everywhere. It's obvious why there are so many male suicides.

sakura_drop · 2024-07-09T15:50:27+00:00

Many organizations and countries have only just recently updated their definition of rape to include "forced to penetrate" and not just "forced penetration", and many more have not updated their definition yet.

I'm afraid you are mistaken: "made to penetrate", "forced envelopment", and other assorted synonyms for the most common type of female-on-male rape are not considered to be rape - it is separately categorised. It's difficult to quantify because of the variety of laws throughout the world, for example in the US alone each of the fifty states have their own set of individual legal guidelines re. rape and sexual assault that affect how those cases are dealt with in that particular location. In the UK women cannot legally be charged with rape, period. Feminist/women's orgs groups in:

campaigned successfully against gender neutral rape laws. In the US the modernised, "more inclusive" general (I.E. not state specific as previously mentioned) legal definition still specifies penetration, putting the onus solely on men:

"The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."

Source. Noteworthy excerpt from that page:

The Office of Violence Against Women (OVW) worked closely with White House Advisor on Violence Against Women Lynn Rosenthal and the Office of the Vice President, as well as multiple DOJ divisions, to modernize the definition.

Despite this there is plenty of data to be found on the topic of female sex offenders, both generally and those who victimise men and boys:

'Sexual victimization perpetrated by women: Federal data reveal surprising prevalence'

This article examines female sexual perpetration in the U.S. To do so, we analyzed data from four large-scale federal agency surveys conducted independently by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Bureau of Justice Statistics in 2008 through 2013. We found these data to contradict the common belief that female sexual perpetration is rare. We therefore reviewed the broader literature to identify patterns and provide context, including among high-risk populations such as college students and inmates. We recommend that professionals responding to this problem avoid gender stereotypes that downplay the frequency and impact of female sexual perpetration so as to comprehensively address sexual victimization in all forms.

Scientific American: 'Sexual Victimization by Women Is More Common Than Previously Known':

The results were surprising. For example, the CDC's nationally representative data revealed that over one year, men and women were equally likely to experience nonconsensual sex, and most male victims reported female perpetrators. Over their lifetime, 79 percent of men who were "made to penetrate" someone else (a form of rape, in the view of most researchers) reported female perpetrators. Likewise, most men who experienced sexual coercion and unwanted sexual contact had female perpetrators.

We also pooled four years of the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) data and found that 35 percent of male victims who experienced rape or sexual assault reported at least one female perpetrator. Among those who were raped or sexually assaulted by a woman, 58 percent of male victims and 41 percent of female victims reported that the incident involved a violent attack, meaning the female perpetrator hit, knocked down or otherwise attacked the victim, many of whom reported injuries.

Slate:

For years, the FBI defined forcible rape, for data collecting purposes, as "the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will." Eventually localities began to rebel against that limited gender-bound definition; in 2010 Chicago reported 86,767 cases of rape but used its own broader definition, so the FBI left out the Chicago stats. Finally, in 2012, the FBI revised its definition and focused on penetration, with no mention of female (or force).

Data hasn’t been calculated under the new FBI definition yet, but Stemple parses several other national surveys in her new paper, "The Sexual Victimization of Men in America: New Data Challenge Old Assumptions," co-written with Ilan Meyer and published in the April 17 edition of the American Journal of Public Health. One of those surveys is the 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, for which the Centers for Disease Control invented a category of sexual violence called "being made to penetrate." This definition includes victims who were forced to penetrate someone else with their own body parts, either by physical force or coercion, or when the victim was drunk or high or otherwise unable to consent. When those cases were taken into account, the rates of nonconsensual sexual contact basically equalized, with 1.270 million women and 1.267 million men claiming to be victims of sexual violence.

Time Magazine - 'The CDC's Rape Numbers Are Misleading ':

How could that be? After all, very few men in the CDC study were classified as victims of rape: 1.7 percent in their lifetime, and too few for a reliable estimate in the past year. But these numbers refer only to men who have been forced into anal sex or made to perform oral sex on another male. Nearly 7 percent of men, however, reported that at some point in their lives, they were "made to penetrate" another person—usually in reference to vaginal intercourse, receiving oral sex, or performing oral sex on a woman. This was not classified as rape, but as "other sexual violence."

And now the real surprise: when asked about experiences in the last 12 months, men reported being "made to penetrate"—either by physical force or due to intoxication—at virtually the same rates as women reported rape (both 1.1 percent in 2010, and 1.7 and 1.6 respectively in 2011).

In other words, if being made to penetrate someone was counted as rape—and why shouldn’t it be?—then the headlines could have focused on a truly sensational CDC finding: that women rape men as often as men rape women.

The CDC also reports that men account for over a third of those experiencing another form of sexual violence—"sexual coercion." That was defined as being pressured into sexual activity by psychological means: lies or false promises, threats to end a relationship or spread negative gossip, or "making repeated requests" for sex and expressing unhappiness at being turned down.

Men's Self-Reports of Unwanted Sexual Activity - The Journal of Sex Research, Vol. 24 (a study from 1988)

More women (97.5%) than men (93.5%) had experienced unwanted sexual activity; more men (62.7%) than women (46.3%) had experienced unwanted intercourse . . . There were seven sex differences in reasons for unwanted sexual activity: Five were more frequent for women than men; two reasons were more frequent for men than women - peer pressure and desire for popularity. There were eight sex differences in reasons for unwanted intercourse; more men than women had engaged in unwanted intercourse for all eight.

Predictors of Sexual Coercion Against Women and Men: A Multilevel, Multinational Study of University Students

A study by Hines investigating sexual coercion in romantic relationships. It used a sample of 7,667 university students (2,084 men and 5,583 women) from 38 sites around the world. Participants reported their sexual victimisation experiences in the past year of their current or most recent romantic relationships. It found that 2.8% of men and 2.3% of women reported experiencing forced sex in their heterosexual relationships. (Table 1 and 2 on pages 408 and 410 respectively). 22.0% of men and 24.5% of women reported verbal coercion. You can see that the rates for men and women are very, very similar.

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Additional_Insect_44 · 2024-07-09T20:46:51+00:00

In not sure. There are a lot of women sex offenders.

UbiquitousWobbegong · 2024-07-09T14:14:29+00:00

The problem with both rape stats is that we have no way to get accurate numbers. Rape is extremely under-reported on both sides. Consent itself is a murky concept, because there's a grey area where the person goes along with it but doesn't actually want it, or revokes consent after the fact. Have you seen how many "Was I raped?" posts get put up on reddit in various subs? Not even a person being raped necessarily knows they were until they are affirmed by a third party who is clear headed (or who has a bias).

It's possible that men are raped as much as women, but it doesn't honestly matter in my opinion. The incidence of rape is not what we should be focusing on. Rape happens to men and women. Who it happens more to doesn't matter. What matters is empowering people who have been raped to overcome any negative impact that event has had on their life. Hopefully they can seek justice, but since that's very difficult in most rape cases, I will settle for getting their life back on track.

sanitaryinspector · 2024-07-10T12:15:41+00:00

If you count no consent as denial, men are always raped according to law, as laws only requires consent from women to a matter of fact. Especially in procreation, every sexual act is a potentially procreative one for men.

We don't get to legally decide if our semen will result in our fatherhood, we can only apply actions to prevent a woman from getting pregnant with it.

fatpigredneck · 2024-07-09T14:28:51+00:00

Years ago, I had a situation with a woman hit that point. I told her I didn't want to penetrate her without a condom, but she pushed me on my back and straddled me. About a minute later, my body finished and she wound up getting pregnant. Of course she wanted a mealticket "for the baby" and took me to court. The judge said that it didn't matter how it got in her but I was responsible for my sperm's actions. If the roles were different, I'd have been DNA tested and jailed for raping her. Total bullshit.

ggleblanc2 · 2024-07-09T07:51:56+00:00

It's probable. Almost all adult male rapists were raped as a child by either their mother, their mother's boyfriends, or their mother's relatives.

volleyballbeach · 2024-07-09T21:15:16+00:00

In the US they do. The Department of justice found that the majority of rapes are prison rapes. Most studies aren’t surveying prisoners so they aren’t counted.

aliciathecomedian · 2024-07-11T00:39:13+00:00

Men absolutely do get assaulted more than women, it's just that nobody gives a shit about men so nobody ever believes them if they decide to say something about it, and most men don't even talk about it because they know they're going to get dismissed and/or called liars

Almahue · 2024-07-09T12:45:07+00:00

All evidence indicates women (1 in 5 raped) get SA'd more than men (1 in 9 made to penetrate).the US.

That said, more men (84%) than women (46%) report not being traumatized by SA (despite showing clear signs of repercussions like PTSD) so it's very posible (likely in my opinion) that most male survivors just block the experience from their memory.

MrSaturn33 · 2024-07-09T12:30:06+00:00

Yes. Men are raped more than women. Because of prisons.

DO_Kagome · 2024-07-09T05:49:50+00:00

Rape? No. Period. As a rape victim (I was 13 and she was 30), we need to accept rape happens to females ALOT more.

Sexual assault? I would possibly argue in favor of men being more of a victim of sexual assault. The amount of ass grabbing in high school by females and the amount of unwanted physical touches I've received is immense. I have traveled a lot and every trip I am groped. I go to Asian and Latin American countries as a White guy which brings attention but that proves my point. Send a guy to El Salvador or Vietnam and see how many times he is called at, groped, and touched. I can't even trust a drink at a shop in many places. It's too risky.

Men don't talk about this issue much and women do not listen to it. Therefore, we sit in silence and people believe it happens to women more.

kuzism · 2024-07-09T09:50:20+00:00

By other men in prison, yes, by women, no.

Title	Is it possible that men get raped more than women?
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