We are disposable

Voltariat · 2024-12-12T23:50:18+00:00

Dude, not to sound sexist but men have always taken it in the ass as far as war, working, etc. but men have created/invented most and I mean most of all of the things and have been the ones changing the world. We are not done for, we are just being oppressed

hottake_toothache · 2024-12-13T03:03:35+00:00

I feel you, man.

Traditional_Mark_116 · 2024-12-13T00:35:45+00:00

I feel you brother. I have so much to say here, to the point I don't know what to say anymore. Look at my profile, maybe it will give you an idea

Merentha8681 · 2024-12-13T00:57:45+00:00

Welcome to the desert of the real.

Remote_Purpose_4323 · 2024-12-13T00:15:18+00:00

Kinda right, but at the same time we are living at the best time possible, we can change everything it is in our hands. It’s easier than ever to get together and talk and collaborate. Women hate each other, they are figuring out who is in charge and who is higher in hierarchy, so men are better at collaboration and communication. You want to change something, go help some bro with whatever you can. Strength comes from within. Women are disposable too, once she’s over the age of 27, she’s out of the market and pretty much she’s done. If she will try to have a career, she’ll get what it’s like to be a man. Just be a professional and care yourself, because it seems like you don’t care yourself.

Excellent_You5494 · 2024-12-13T01:06:02+00:00

If Ayn Rand can single handedly remake philosophical objectivism with a couple novels and lectures, there is nothing stopping you from self-publishing a Treatise on your idea of men's rights.

Inevitable-Tennis-49 · 2024-12-13T11:32:01+00:00

They treat us if we were disposable. But we are NOT. Our lives have no less value than that of women. We have to make sure that the world knows it. Now the question would be "how?" but that is a whole different issue.

ilovesleep95 · 2024-12-13T01:03:41+00:00

This is true. I saw a fb reel today of a woman saying “get u a girl who can do both” and she filmed herself dressing very nicely and feminine, and then switched to clips of herself fixing cars as a mechanic… and like that’s great, good for you, but who said you can’t? What makes you so special? And then the comments were all attacking men accusing them of being jealous and insecure because they’re not “as strong or as capable as the woman in the video” and that they’re “just mad because they’re not needed for anything anymore” … and that’s acceptable? Blatantly saying men are good for nothing is ok? I’m a woman and I can confidently say that I need/want a man in my life lol. I think both men and women benefit from each other.

RelativeHopeful2405 · 2024-12-13T09:11:08+00:00

I’m glad other men are waking up to this reality.

walterwallcarpet · 2024-12-13T00:19:15+00:00

Radical feminists believe that if men can be reduced to a 'manageable' % of the population, that a feminist utopia will spontaneously arise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Miller_Gearhart

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Daly

They don't actually want to be responsible for the construction of utopia, though. They don't even think about it. Somehow, it just miraculously 'appears'. Like Barbieland.

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/modern-utopia-inside-londons-women-only-housing-1610224

You know what..? Let them build their own f*cking utopias. Once they've taken a few selfies in their dungarees, they'll be puzzled that it hasn't actually appeared.

Cindylynn43 · 2024-12-13T01:02:19+00:00

I get why you feel this way. I can't speak for all women, but I appreciate and respect men. You have been treated horribly by society, and it would crumble without men.

DawnBreak777 · 2024-12-13T00:27:26+00:00

For what it's worth, let me just say that I value men more than women now.

Acrobatic_Sport_7664 · 2024-12-13T03:12:00+00:00

We are all disposable, men and women alike. Men are just more disposable. Why? Because of biology. There are differences between us, men and women. As men, we should stop whining and botching about it and start fighting to level the playing field in the way feminists have......we should take the lesson. Lobby, our interest, vote our interest, refuse to be fobbed off. Stop whining, start doing. Yes, be men!

therewasguy · 2024-12-13T13:49:40+00:00

No one cares about us. We are only as valuable as what we do for others. I’m done deluding myself. Im not important, I’ll be forgotten or dismissed when I’m not useful anymore. This is probably the worst time for men. Modern society sucks for us. Ps there’s probably no value to this post but fuck it

ukraine men are dying for their women and their women just go overseas and bone other men as they leave their men behind, even though some of them even have children, it's messed up

the conditions men have to go through and not comaplin about it, being bombed, watching comrades die infront of them, being low of supplies, not knowing if they might be alive at any moment or surviving a night's sleep, and what are their wifes doing? yeah doing other men after all these years of their man doing the best he can for them

South-Steak-7810 · 2024-12-14T00:25:47+00:00

“Live in society but don’t be a part of it” Lao Tse. Around 2500 years ago. You’re free. Free to find out what your passions are and pursue them. Making and or listening to music, build model airplanes, 3D print and or paint miniature models, go snowboarding, hiking, skateboarding, mountain biking, climbing, restore an old car/ motorcycle, reading, watch movies, read books, invent stuff because you want to, travel, stay home and play video games. Find a passion and turn it into your work or find a job that you like, pays your bills and doesn’t stress you out.

Women are free to do and live as they see fit.

So are WE. Men also don’t have to adhere to the societal standards anymore. We don’t have to provide if we don’t want to. We don’t have to protect if we don’t want to. We no longer have to be walking ATM machines, disposable gun/ knife/ cannon fodder, handymen or semen providers. We are free to do whatever we want. (As long as we don’t hurt other people).

All society and women have is shaming language. And I do not care about the opinions of people whose morals and values I do not share.

At least, that’s how I’m living my life. (Practicing Stoicism does really help me with that).

TiddybraXton333 · 2024-12-13T10:08:08+00:00

When my daughter was born, the mother immediately took the role of “I had the baby I know everything” . We became parents on the same day. We have differing opinions sometimes but she legitimately thinks she’s a superior parent over me. It’s crazy. She broke up with me. Then renagged her decision, so now we are in la la land. None of my friends called me, my brother hasent talked to me, no one cares about my well being or mental health. I’m very alone and just keep it pushing.

IrresponsibleInsect · 2024-12-13T11:05:10+00:00

r/howtonotgiveafuck

Personal_Winner8154 · 2024-12-13T22:56:21+00:00

We are indispensable, and we need to have value for one another. We need to build more internal structure and internal brotherhood, and strengthen men as a whole. That should be our focus. The world often doesn't care, you are correct. But we do. And we are not the only ones. Dont worry about those who hate you anyway, seek out your brothers

South-Steak-7810 · 2024-12-14T00:47:12+00:00

Short story. Lao Tse was walking with his pupils through a forest. After some time they encountered a group of woodcutters. They already chopped down many trees except for one. Lao Tse approached one of the woodcutters and asked him why they didn’t chop that tree since every other tree was chopped down. And the woodcutter replied;” that tree? That tree is useless. It has to many twists, turns and knots so it can’t be used to make furniture. And it’s not proper fire wood either. So why bother.

So the “useless” tree was able to live, grow, be a resting spot for travelers, a place to hide from the scorching sun and the pouring rain, birds used its crooked branches to make nests and raise their young.

(I’m not good at telling stories so I hope I got my point across).

Adventurous-Ruin3873 · 2024-12-13T04:36:15+00:00

Find a spot in society where you cannot be replaced. Fill your inner circle with people who sincerely care about you, and eject everyone else from your life. If you cannot find people who care about you, do not settle for "close enough." Refuse all non-essential communication with people outside of your circle.

Keep your salary to yourself. Invest in rock-solid funds like a 401k and stable stocks like MSFT and AMZN. Live below your means, and find hobbies with high cost performance like gaming, reading, and fitness.

Do not do recreational drugs, if you must drink limit your consumption, and never smoke. Stay at a healthy weight, eat plenty of fruits and vegetables, and drink a lot of water.

You'll notice that when you really let go of all of other people's nonsense, life feels pretty great. Someone cut me off in traffic? Who cares. Some TikTok feminist responds to my comment angrily with femcel nonsense? Who cares. My non-preferred candidate wins the election? Who cares. They're all inconsequential.

I am almost 40. I have a family with a wife and two sons. Outside of them, I have two good friends. I carved a spot for myself in society, and I simply do not interact with people outside of this. Less interaction = less drama. Less engagement = less stress.

ParamedicExcellent15 · 2024-12-13T09:23:03+00:00

Yes I agree wholeheartedly. Men are only valued for what they can provide. It is the most superficial level of appreciation that men receive in modern society. Similarly though, I think women are only appreciated for their attractiveness/desirability. Check out r/ForeverAloneWomen, it might help you to feel less animosity to the opposite sex.

Substantial_Fan_8921 · 2024-12-13T08:51:27+00:00

That's why we need a violent uprising Military has to rebel and Men need to take the streets and show their true power

Resident-West-5213 · 2024-12-13T09:25:26+00:00

God cares about you, trust in him and his plan for you, woman might not be a part of it, but rather a distraction.

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2024-12-13T09:47:02+00:00

Yes people will see you like that if you let them. Why no one will care about you or value you if you dont care and value your self first. Why you demand respect.

Cause if you look down on your self everyone will use or abuse you.

The same way of a women does not respect her self and get used and abused by everyone for sex. So does men get used for money for time for physical labor.

If you dont start to value your self Why you expect others to do what you your self won't do.

Thats what life is. Give value but expect value and respect in turn. And being ok to walk the road alone if you have to.

Only that way you don't feel used and abused.

So expect value and expect respect form others as much as you give them expect it back.

That is the only way to feel not disposable. To not let your self be used as disposable.

Each side can be used and abused of you let it happen.

You just gotta have enough self respect and self worth. To not let it happen and being OK with being alone of you have to.

Thats the true freedom when words or actions of others hold no power over you or your morales of what you accept or don't accept of people to be able to be in your life.

Then your not disposable and your truely free. Cause your life is your own first and foremost.

imextremelymoderate · 2024-12-13T14:56:28+00:00

You took the red pill. You have chosen the more difficult but also potentially more rewarding path

FoundationAny8406 · 2024-12-14T08:25:51+00:00

We care about each other. Many of my male friends are noticing the importance of that and the hegemony of society now. It's just the mainstream powerful groups that haven't yet shifted, trying to ignore the fact that we are not valued as men, and finding other reasons.

But you can see it in the data. We are voting for more right wing parties because they don't malign men. We are becoming more active on socials. There's a growing number of younger politicians who are aware. Companies are dumping dei. Men are using alternative news sources like x and YouTube.

There's a long way to go for equal treatment but we are advancing a lot

senoritaawesom3 · 2024-12-13T03:00:27+00:00

Modern society is so hard on men. I agree. I think you men should work harder to become the real alphas of society—like you were born to be. Men aren’t recognized anymore. Women can just pop their vaginas and get whatever they want. The world doesn’t see men for who they are and what they’re worth.

KarioAndretti · 2024-12-22T17:16:38+00:00

Of course men can cook. My late husband cooked every meal for 30 years. He was WAY better at it than I was. We both had our lanes and it was great. We were a team. I ended up breadwinner because he got MS in his 20s and couldn’t work anymore. That’s why I don’t buy this bullshit about women not working. My husband was a Viking warrior and all man. Remember the woman you think is ‘taking your job’ may in fact be supporting a man who is can no longer work.

KarioAndretti · 2024-12-22T17:21:23+00:00

You’re only disposable if you make yourself that way. If you only offer money and security, those things are easily lost and most women can get that on their own. If you make a woman feel seen, heard , valued , THAT is not disposable. I could have easily traded my sick poor husband in for a ‘high value man’ but why ? He LOVED me, but more importantly, he LIKED me. We had a fucking blast together. You can fall outta love , but you never fall outta like.

KarioAndretti · 2024-12-22T17:26:04+00:00

I’ve never met a radical feminist or any woman that actually defines herself that way. Have you ? I’ve also never heard anyone say woman shouldn’t get married and should work instead. That’s just straight up bullshit. Why are the shows on women’s networks all about love and romance then and not $$ and power ? Why are there shows about buying a fucking wedding dress? Women being selected by a man for marriage remains the ultimate validation in society. No matter her accomplishments, if she never got married or had kids , she’s not a ‘real’ woman. The only people hearing from radical feminists are apparently men.

tinyhermione · 2024-12-13T09:36:37+00:00

Everyone is disposable to society.

You need to look for close connections to other people and then you won’t be disposable to them. Male friends, female friends, a partner.

Basic-Revolution-447 · 2024-12-13T00:23:29+00:00

Quit bitching and do something about it. stop trying to change the game and start playing it.

KarioAndretti · 2024-12-13T03:19:53+00:00

you are only disposable if you make yourself that way. We don't need your money or status, but we still WANT you. To many of you focus on what you think we need from you, and then when we ask for what we want you can't or won't give it to us. That is the problem. That and/or you were with the wrong woman. I am not going to say there are not heinous bitches out there..but you set your own value in the relationship.

_EX · 2024-12-13T01:35:11+00:00

As a man who is cared for by many wonder women in my life, you are wrong.

Harami98 · 2024-12-13T01:13:52+00:00

All I’m going to say is if you think you are disposable garbage you are disposable garbage. If you value yourself think of yourself highly and do something commendable responsible. Do something that make people depend on you otherwise you are no different then any homeless out there.

Title	We are disposable
Author	RebelRebel62
Upvotes	418
Comments	131
Date	December 12, 2024 11:43 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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