What did they get right and what did they get wrong? (Masculinity Debate: Are Dating Apps Creating Incels?! Lonely Men Are More Dangerous Than Ever!)

AMetal0xide · 2025-05-02T16:24:17+00:00

"Lonely men are more dangerous than ever" more dehumanising bullshit blaming lonely men.

frogjokeholder · 2025-05-02T12:46:39+00:00

"Lonely men are more dangerous than ever"- ah fuck off. Pathologising loneliness, which is an emotion this fragmented society breeds in abundance, for both sexes.

Argentarius1 · 2025-05-02T05:15:59+00:00

Galloway is democrats' controlled opposition on men's issues. I find him completely insincere and ineffective.

BoredRedhead24 · 2025-05-03T02:31:38+00:00

What pisses me off is that no matter what happens, they ALWAYS find some way to blame men. It's like the idea of compassion is an alien concept to them. Just because we tend not to show our emotions does not mean that we have none. Also, the fact that if you dare and call them out on not only their abject hatred of men you are in the wrong. We just want to be treated like human beings. It isn't asking a lot.

sunyata150 · 2025-05-02T20:53:22+00:00

I saw this the day it was posted and frankly it ticked me off. I will copy and paste the comment I left on that video below.

"I’ve got a lot of thoughts on this, so I apologize in advance if they run a bit scattered, vague, or run away from me. While the podcast raises important points about the challenges men are facing today and areas where men can improve, the number of double standards I noticed is so long I don't even know where to begin. Listing them all would take too long, but here are the essential points for me:

Most people both men and women are average, and that’s not a bad thing. In fact, it should be the standard. That means we need standards that suit the average person if we expect most people to form romantic relationships and build families. But when we push above average expectations onto average people, with little to no social support, guidance, or reciprocity, we’re setting most of society up to fail (both men and women).

If these are the kind of standards men are expected to meet just to be considered “date-able,” then honestly, it’s valid for men to opt out of dating and form their own healthy, supportive communities focused on personal growth. Even if a guy does meet all these expectations, it’s not clear what women are offering in return that makes all the effort, stress, and pressure worth it anyways...

The conversation seemed to completely gloss over what men want from women, and what comparable standards and expectations woman are meeting for men in return.

In the end, the results should speak for themselves. People with realistic, healthy standards can pair up and pass on their values to the next generation. Those stuck in cycles with unrealistic expectations or one sided demands can stay single and childless. Over time, that trend will fade out and it will fix itself.

Edit: It struck me later after writing this how I could summarize the double standards in this. The impression i got from this was that men are expected to equally split traditional feminine roles + still live up to there traditionally masculine roles just as well if not better than there female partner leaving men to settle for woman who wont do the same for them in return. I hope I am wrong about that...."

Unnecessary_Timeline · 2025-05-02T12:46:26+00:00

You’ve posted a 2.5 hr long video which starts with baiting quotes in the first 1:30. You cannot expect anyone to sit down and watch a cinema-length youtube video before they can respond to your post. This is not a genuine prompt for participation in this topic.

bortalizer93 · 2025-05-02T16:18:25+00:00

is it really a surprise that dating apps, a for-profit business that capitalize on lonely people seeking for validation, is creating people with mental health issues??

instead of solely blaming men, why don't we take the issue to the liberal capitalist system that has no concern over what issue they created in pursuit of profit?

Flashy-Discussion-57 · 2025-05-02T16:30:46+00:00

I remember watching this the day after it was on YT.

The biggest 2 issues I have was Scott Galloway saying, "Men need to be providers and protecters" and his thinking that men were like him being complete losers smoking pot and doing nothing with their lives while also having a gf like he did. Fuck this boomer. He wants men to move to the left but offers less than the right does.

I refuse to provide for a woman because she can make her own money and get plenty of financial help from various organizations for college, welfare, and such. Women are terrible with money. This is partially due to parents never being honest about their finances with their daughters because they don't want to worry their baby girl, but women tell each other to not worry about having savings, ask their parents for money, and men need to pay for their shit. These are things men are rarely allowed to do. This also promotes the Red Pill ideology of women should only want rich, good-looking men. Plus, many women are willing to do 50/50 or every other date now days. We shouldn't have to protect women either because the women know what they are doing. Some will get in fights more if they know their man will take the punch instead. Some will take more reckless choices because their man is there to catch them like getting drunk and high.

Only a handful of women I've known would choose a guy like he was in his 20s. I've never been this loser Scott Galloway was (well, other than during college and didn't try to date with 12 credit hours and 30 average hours of work a week), and I've had more than a dozen relationships (40m). Which his experience is also backwards for what women should want in a partner. Simplified down, men should strive to be rich but also women date NEET men. Like, wouldn't that show men should be working towards being more worthless? I've had great women went I demonstrated being stable, emotionally, having an emergency fund, owning a house, and such. The women dating alcoholics had very low self-esteem which made them bitter, harmful, and just the worst human beings. They are usually not that physically attractive either but can be rarely. If men need to "do better", then society or the government should help them achieve that. Scholarships for men, more money spent on infostructure such as construction, and bring in more manual labor jobs to the country.

Truthfully, women want intelligent men and men who show their hobbies and interests. Being plain makes it hard to tell if you'd get along, but if they can tell you'll have something in common, growth and attachment happens.

RSA1RSA · 2025-05-04T21:18:07+00:00

The math is not mathing. There is no way there are more single men or women because, by definition, a relationship (heterosexual) is made of a man and a woman. At most, the statistics are skewed by the fact that women tend to go for older men or the definition of a relationship is different.

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