Who do you think is the best PUA and who is the best teacher?

ThatDarnSmell · 2025-08-26T21:27:42+00:00

None. Quit idolizing PUA clowns.

Acrobatic-Show3732 · 2025-08-27T15:29:00+00:00

You Will never meet him, because you would have to go to Spain. His name is egoland.

In english? I think Mark manson. He promotes a style based on honesty and finding yourself. He is also the most succesfull of them all outside of dating world with a real grown Up job, and has a long term succesfull marriage.

Basically a masculine figure you can actually base your morals and values on while also obtaining great results.

Egoland is a similar honesty driven philosophy, but he has very specific tecniques and conversation strategies that have made my cold aproaches and relationships fuller. He just goes deeper in practical ways for speeding Up emotional connection in his teachings than mm. While also promoting what for me IS Healthy masculinity with great results and fun. He is the goat for me. I have seen him Live, and its like fucking Magic.

Whole_Thanks_612 · 2025-08-26T20:31:25+00:00

In my opinion, mystery will always be the best teacher, therefore, style has to be the best PUA. He learned from everybody, specially from mystery.

wheatnathan · 2025-08-26T22:01:47+00:00

OK, even though the whole community is basically a load of nonsense, I would agree and say that Vadim DOES indeed have game. I mean, there's guys who teach this stuff with lots of followers who have WORSE game (much much worse!) than a typical random guy on the street! Examples would be someone lkie john anthony! (have you seen his infields?!!! lol. Or that 'bayne' guy. Or...well, there's too many to mention, tbh!). Vadim isn't one of them though

But with that said, despite Vadim having game, he'd still get destroyed by someone like my wingman who has never even heard of game. Just a very good looking guy who is 'normal' (normal social sklils). Vadim will approach lots and lots of very hot 18-21 year olds who simply wouldn't give him the time of day due to his looks and age. His 'game' is powerless on girls who aren't attracted to him, as is always the case.

ps - mystery is pretty damn cringe, tbh. Some of his infields clearly show that he's far from anything special! (like that one where he's making hard freaking work of simply getting a number from an OLDER, fairly average looking woman who even seemed to be into him before he spoke! (When he was a young, decent looking guy about 6ft 5 and had social proof up the ass!) In other words, it seemed more like his 'game' was going more harm than good as he bored her ass off lol)

burncushlikewood · 2025-08-27T03:49:04+00:00

The best pua is Richard la ruina by far, he's married and his wife isn't outrageously hot but it's nice for him, I've seen him infield absolutely incredible, the best teacher is mystery, he does seminars and stuff, plus vh1s the pick up artist is incredible how he turns these guys into true players

ThreeArmedYeti · 2025-08-27T13:09:34+00:00

Best PUA? This question is like asking which is the best car. You could say Porsche 911 or Bugatti Chiron but they can't do offroad neither haul your family of 5 for a shopping trip. You could choose a different car such as a Suzuki Vitara witch can do the later but can it go fast?

Best teacher: your womanizer friend. Why? A lot of PUA instructors fall into the category of reinventing the wheel. Even if you have a strong core and you want to be just a bit better in the game the average PUA instructor won't use it as a base. They will destroy it and make you build it up again. The difference is how your new core will be not really yours but your instructors. If I could count how many PUA instructors I saw with the "be me or be a loser" mindset with the first step making you believe how amazing manipulation techinques you will learn to manipulate your manipulated women into your manipulation bed while you don't realize you are the one being manipulated paying for relearning basic human social structures with fancy names to end up being awkward around women. Because that's what happen to most at least here.
And this is why learned PUAs tremble in fear when a so called "natural" enters the room. They don't need to think for a half second to recall instructions because during the learning process they forgot how to interact with humans thinking all of the steps they would make is wrong. They also didn't need to talk to the mirror listening to the Shit-Test Terminator just to learn the most common tests just to meet something out of the ordinary and freeze. And what's the difference? Instead of relearning every single social behavior a natural builds on his own personality traits.

According to ancient greeks there were 5 personality types, according to MBTI (even if it's highly doubted) there are at least 32. Therefore I would rather ask one of my friends who know seduction and know me rather than joining a PUA lesson again.

Title	Who do you think is the best PUA and who is the best teacher?
Author	Outside-Quarter-2866
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Date	August 26, 2025 8:17 PM UTC (10 months ago)
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