German Military Law expert says women should be entirely left out of any future conscription in Germany.

63daddy · 2025-09-19T17:42:18+00:00

They say it’s okay to exempt women to compensate for the way women are disadvantaged in society but of course they can’t show women are in fact disadvantaged. That women are exempt from service is obviously a female advantage.

They also say equally including women would be a disadvantage for women. That’s nonsense. Equal treatment isn’t a disadvantage.

DrewYetti · 2025-09-19T18:35:28+00:00

Not a word from the feminists about this benevolent sexism. Oh that right, they only reject sexism when it doesn’t benefit them.

Delicious_Cancel_520 · 2025-09-19T17:17:21+00:00

Man shoud go to war and women party in clubs, seems fair.

XboxeurMan · 2025-09-19T17:42:27+00:00

Ok, give up the right to vote then

Smeg-life · 2025-09-19T17:05:03+00:00

Essentially either a lawsuit to establish equality, maybe a German person could elaborate on that?

Or the last paragraph is interesting

'For me, general military service would be general military service only for men. It could certainly be organized fairly, as a supplement to compulsory military service, by saying: You can basically choose whether you join the army or do something in the civilian sector. But if the Bundeswehr then says, "No, we need you here, we want to draft you," then you can still refuse and will simply be sent into this general military service in the civilian sector.'

Be firm and insist on being in the civilian sector.

Honestly just leaving the country would be best.

apokrif1 · 2025-09-19T18:02:57+00:00

Inconsistent Constitution?

Im Grundgesetz stehen jetzt zwei Regelungen, die einander widersprechen. Einmal, dass niemand wegen seines Geschlechts unterschiedlich behandelt werden darf. Und einmal, dass es die Wehrpflicht eben nur für Männer gibt

OpTicSkYHaWk · 2025-09-20T01:11:23+00:00

Mens' bodies, womens' choice. /s

CauliflowerActual178 · 2025-09-19T18:23:01+00:00

The True sad story is that even if the woman are conscripted, the first line (the one where most of the casualities happens) is allways man. This sucks.

Falconoflight777 · 2025-09-20T07:16:29+00:00

AS always, men will die for women privileges... EQUALITY my ass... Hello there from Ukraine with tons of women in power, millions women fled, birth rate is lowest in the world, yet hundreds of thousands of men are dead in front lines and don't have human rights... Yet UN say that there patriarchy in Ukraine... feminist equality - its when women equal to Gods and men equal to shit...

catalanboy95 · 2025-09-19T21:52:20+00:00

If we go back to traditional roles, then women should start getting children en masse. No? Then shut up and don't tell me about not being privileged. I have not heard any feminists outcry against male conscription.

JimmyB264 · 2025-09-19T23:18:47+00:00

Whelp, there goes equality!

QH96 · 2025-09-19T21:25:18+00:00

Draft should be tied to the right to vote

Firmihirto · 2025-09-19T17:21:24+00:00

Women should be entirely out of anything war related, including government. They are too emotional and easy to manipulate.

Women in power ruined Europe, but nobody wants to talk about it.

Mr_Richard_Parker · 2025-09-19T18:05:29+00:00

I agree actually but women should be held to certain other civic duties the way men are. I cannot write more than that here.

13donor · 2025-09-19T23:02:08+00:00

I think they should be first.

SidewaysGiraffe · 2025-09-19T17:57:57+00:00

Sure- but men should be, too.

Conely · 2025-09-19T23:15:05+00:00

Okay, leave out non-women too

Ywaina · 2025-09-20T06:55:23+00:00

And the men in power are sycophantically agreeing with this.

Super-Nuntendo · 2025-09-20T08:10:43+00:00

Women generally get much more lenient punishments for crime than men across the West.

You know already that if/when male only conscription is bought in, and they refuse, the government will throw the book at them.

Like harsh punishment, worse than actual criminals who commit real crimes would get. No mercy on leniency for men.

Ok_Night_7767 · 2025-09-20T13:32:22+00:00

Women should not expect (or ever receive) equal treatment if they aren't willing to agree to equal responsibilities.

RedPillAlphaBigCock · 2025-09-20T10:10:12+00:00

“ We can do anything a man can do “ - not like this ….

FeanorOath · 2025-09-20T10:25:04+00:00

Equality...

kaisear · 2025-09-21T02:08:27+00:00

"We are just gaurls." "Be a man." "Where are the real men?" "Somebody help !" Speaking of the sense of entitlement. Women don't feel privileged becsuse they are privileged.

Regular_NormalGuy · 2025-09-19T17:35:57+00:00

The military is not only fighting. There is also logistics, health, communication etc. Women can do their part. I mean I am a man and I would suck in combat but I could totally make sure the equipment is in perfect shape for the next battle.

Hyphalex · 2025-09-19T18:57:59+00:00

men r just worker bees lmao 🐝

Newleafto · 2025-09-20T09:15:44+00:00

Translation please. Most of us can’t read German.

kmikek · 2025-09-19T17:40:55+00:00

Germany used to have compulsary civil service for young men and women, but that wasnt necessarily military service. It might be a heathy thing for a nation to do

critical_Bat · 2025-09-20T17:58:56+00:00

As a stand alone issue I do not understand the men that want this to be “equal”. There are various differences between the sexes that make to men more suited for military roles and many others. Lowering standards and either creating new roles or advancing women in the roles they are more suited for is not a positive as it invites further discrimmination. This is something all industries are dealing with now. But as one issue under the equality umbrella I can understand the grievances but I still maintain that ignoring the differences between the sexes is not in anyones best interest.

FarOpportunity-1776 · 2025-09-19T21:01:58+00:00

They're right... females dont belong in combat.

Ace2Face · 2025-09-19T21:17:42+00:00

While I understand everyone's anger at this, I do think that ultimately it's better that this is left to men. At least, only in combat roles. I think women in combat are weak and they would endanger other men and cause more losses. Other support roles are okay as far as I'm concerned. However, this does create an inequality that's inherent to the physical limitations of being a woman. I do think men need to be compensated for this, the question is how? We can't just not give women the right to vote, I don't think that's fair at all. Give men who served in combat roles tax breaks, college funding, other benefits, prestige, etc.. gives both incentive and fairness.

But the worst option is here and the one that was chosen: not conscripting women, giving them right to vote, and leaving men to die.

007JayceBond · 2025-09-19T21:47:45+00:00

While I'm all for men's rights activism, some of you people don't seem to grasp the importance of women not going to war, they mark the reproductive ceiling of a nation and are essential for the long term survival of any state. Men should not be forcefully conscripted, military enrollment should be voluntary only, but sending women to war is shooting ourselves in the foot. If my country were to be under attack, for all I care about men's rights, I would be vehemently against sending women to the front.

Title	German Military Law expert says women should be entirely left out of any future conscription in Germany.
Author	SoyBoyH8ter
Upvotes	551
Comments	79
Date	September 19, 2025 4:52 PM UTC (10 months ago)
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