I only want to have sex in LTR or marriage, is there something wrong with that? Is that against RP values?

IVIaskerade · 2015-12-10T16:01:30+00:00

Is this against red pill values?

No. There are no such thing as "Red pill values".

Will no girl ever put up with this kind of mentality?

Only if you continue to frame it as them “putting up with" rather than a basic expectation.

Is there something wrong with me?

Only your doubts.

Cyralea · 2015-12-10T15:25:39+00:00

Men and women are not the same. The standards you hold for women need not be the standards you hold for men. Male virginity is easy and male promiscuity is hard; female promiscuity is easy and female chastity is hard. This creates a very different set of standards within the SMP. Further, that feeling of aversion to female sluttiness is biological. It's a massive red flag in women.

I wrote about this a while back. It's not hypocritical to demand chastity from women while being promiscuous yourself.

TopTRP · 2015-12-10T15:20:12+00:00

You're fine man.

Most guys who become obsessed with upping their count do that because they derive little self worth from other places.

It's tantamount to a quarterback (who derives his self worth from being good at football) telling you you're worthless because you not as good at football as he is.

However.....

I just feel like a hypocrite

Feeling this way won't hurt you but understand this feeling isn't something that goes along with viewing the world through the redpill lens due to what FrameWalker said.

pickledpeas · 2015-12-10T16:00:44+00:00

Your reasons are your own and don't feel shamed by society for wanting a girl with a low n-count.

Pump-n- dumps and to a lesser extent plates are give you nothing more than a rush of endorphins for that few minutes around the act being committed.

Be as picky as you want when/if choosing a girl for a relationship and stand by your standards.

Finally, that feeling of disgust you had when finding out that your LTR had a high partner count is 100% normal so don't feel bad about it.

claptilley · 2015-12-10T17:25:35+00:00

I'm mostly a lurker, but would like to point out that, this concept, is being the best version of yourself for you. That creates tingles, and pussy.

Being you and sticking to your core values above all else is an alpha trait. I know my goals are to acquire alpha traits but never compromise who I for what's desirable in a female frame.

FrameWalker · 2015-12-10T14:45:05+00:00

very hypocritical of me because all the girl's I've had sex with were casual non-girlfriends, so I decided that from now on I will only have sex with a girl if we're in a serious LTR or married.

It's okay to hold them to a different standard than yourself. Society celebrates men with higher partner counts and shames those with low partner counts. Being a male Virgin is a huge social stigma but female virgins are in high demand.

Your job is to learn how to open women's legs, her job is to do her best to keep them closed.

sodainthewatercup6 · 2015-12-10T16:30:27+00:00

I'm not sure your message is clear. Are you just saying you want to swear off sluts? You only want to date good girls with morals/values? You want to withhold sex until after you've become exclusive???

wehadtosaydickety · 2015-12-11T00:10:52+00:00

Valid questions but the wrong ones for you right now. Two months after Michelle, you're feeling separation anxiety and want a replacement. You need more time to be comfortable being alone before you latch onto someone else.

If you find a girlfriend now you will continue to be terrified of being alone and will let her walk all over you.

Whisper · 2015-12-10T21:27:50+00:00

The fundamental mistake you are making is the idea that the same standards apply to your behaviour and women's behaviour.

Men and women are different.

You are able to do certain things that women can't get away with. Women are able to do certain things that you can't get away with.

It is perfectly okay for you not only to have sex outside a relationship, but to have sex outside your relationship. Virginity, monogamy, and fidelity are concepts that are only important for women. You have no obligations in this regard because it doesn't fucking matter.

Each sex's roles are defined by the collective desires of the opposite sex.

Women have to be sexuality continent because men find sluts undesirable for relationships. Men have to be stoic and emotionally repressed because women find male tears unsexy.

It is just as okay for you to expect your girlfriend to be strictly monogamous (while you have a little piece on the side now and again), as it is for her to expect you never to cry on her shoulder (while she dampens yours with some regularity).

Women are allowed to be immature, unstable, and passive. You are allowed to be promiscuous, bossy, and uncommunicative. Because the traits you have to stay away from are the unsexy ones.

SexistFlyingPig · 2015-12-10T17:15:50+00:00

Men and women aren't the same.

You shouldn't judge them by the same standards, as their motivations and goals, abilities and interests are different.

UnicornWIP · 2015-12-10T20:21:21+00:00

Nothing wrong with it! After trying the who casual sex thing I am in the same boat. My issue with casual sex is that there is no mystery or tension, so no chemistry. The first few times there is. After that I realize I don't want anything more with the hookup and so the sex loses all of it's tension. That's uncomfortable.... I'd rather just rub one out. Especially considering the health risk or the extra time it takes.

Now I only have sex with someone I am at least considering plating. That doesn't mean we have to know each other well or anything, they just have to meet high standards and have that potential.

2015-12-10T23:52:37+00:00

Do what will make YOU happy in the long run. Sometimes what you want this very moment will cause regret later. Be honest with yourself and aware of the consequences of your actions.

I think that's pretty much super condensed Red Pill.

2015-12-11T10:07:03+00:00

All RP thought, principles, adages, and recommendations boils down to to thine own self, be true.

thefisherman1961 · 2015-12-10T15:43:34+00:00

I only want to have sex in LTR or marriage, is there something wrong with that? Is that against RP values?

Marriage is against TRP values, but only wanting to have sex in an LTR is not. Red Pill is a sexual strategy, you can apply it however you wish. If that means you don't want to plate, that's fine. Just be sure you don't get oneitis and lose your abundance mentality or get married.

Title	I only want to have sex in LTR or marriage, is there something wrong with that? Is that against RP values?
Author	MrGoodStuff05
Upvotes	18
Comments	32
Date	December 10, 2015 2:40 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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