[long, not important] How does this level of self-delusion work?

JamesRyder · 2013-03-05T18:57:46+00:00

Are all the people in this thread trolls or something? Argumentum ad populum is one of the most common fallacies used. Just because everyone used to think the Sun orbited the Earth doesn't mean it was true.

If a fact is known to be "universally true" (not that such a thing exists anyway) then they should be able to produce credible evidence easily supporting their assertion.

C0CKPUNCHER · 2013-03-05T18:42:18+00:00

I'm sorry I just skimmed, I'm sure their argument was vapid but you demanding they produce proof puts argument before observation. You should have an open mind and be constructive toward their observations, even if their conclusion is ultimately not the right one the goal is more information, best case scenario being for both sides, not merely demanding a premature level of rigor and dismissing the argument without addressing it via this means.

It just didn't look like you were discussing the facts in good faith. You can't discuss mens rights, which requires empathy, while showing absolutely none.

You've come here to say how annoying it is that the other person was obstinate, but you really left him no space to change his mind and you were obstinate too, yes you were right but that doesn't mean your conduct was better.

hemmiklemmi · 2013-03-05T18:32:03+00:00

You see how ridiculous this line of reasoning sounds? I make an absurd statement, then challenge you to prove it wrong

Oh god, I lost it at that, does he not see the irony?

phySi0 · 2013-03-05T17:53:34+00:00

I'm the one in blue, representing blue pill (which I just realised now).

Bodertz · 2013-03-05T19:01:37+00:00

You should have humored him and prove that racism still exists.

ENTP · 2013-03-05T20:43:20+00:00

It's the opposite; and just as (if not more) damaging: the less sex a man has, the worse his reputation

purplepowerpete · 2013-03-06T00:45:21+00:00

I think both men and women are slut shamed by both men and women, not all of society. A lot of people don't think either a man or a woman should sleep around, likewise a lot of people don't care if a man or woman sleeps around. The same people who believe sleeping around is bad will most likely shame both men and women to a similar degree. Too many people work on the assumption that everything is sexism, when in truth people usually don't care if it is either a man or a woman.

kez88 · 2013-03-06T05:21:19+00:00

I know how could he not think their is a double standard when it comes to the sexual promiscuity of women! So unbelievable!

jack_gats · 2013-03-06T15:18:41+00:00

What should be borne in mind is that women get praised for being abstinent while men get ridiculed for it. Now tell me what is easier about sex? Having much of it or the reverse?

Altiondsols · 2013-03-05T22:47:41+00:00

You know that there's a serious problem when an argument assumes its own truth and no one sees anything wrong.

2013-03-05T22:54:37+00:00

There is no double-standard because only low-status males get shamed for their sexuality. Low-status men don't count as men therefore there is no double-standard. QED.

intensely_human · 2013-03-06T02:26:40+00:00

It takes a long time to build up, and it must be dismantled slowly.

Strange_Dragons · 2013-03-05T18:28:21+00:00

But she did prove her point, she said it is 'universally known' to be true. What more do you want from her? Now it is your responsibility to prove her wrong.

Super_delicious · 2013-03-05T18:46:25+00:00

I just have to say a key that opens many locks is a great key. A lock that can be opened by multiple keys is a crappy lock.

Title	[long, not important] How does this level of self-delusion work?
Author	phySi0
Upvotes	13
Comments	60
Date	March 5, 2013 5:52 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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