Short? Ugly? Don't let it stop it. Ever.

eccentricrealist · 2014-06-23T07:20:40+00:00

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AlfredTheGreatest · 2014-06-23T04:45:37+00:00

Many of history's great men were short. Guess you just have to make up for it. Puts a useful and/or destructive chip on some guy's shoulders.

muffcheese · 2014-06-23T04:46:23+00:00

I hear you bro, inspirational message. I'm 5'9" which is technically average, but I'm still in the range where people see me as short. (Doesn't help that most of my friends are 6'4") I never wrestled, but I have been lifting weights for a solid 12 years and people who used to be in my class can't even recognize me with the muscle I've gained. I think the important thing to take away here is if you work hard as a man you can overcome your limitations. Yes height is a definite factor in male SMV, but its one of many. Where as women typically have two factors: age and physical appearance.

Night--Writer · 2014-06-23T04:39:54+00:00

I wrestled in high school too and I can attest that it was by far the best education I received in high school. Your standards of work ethic will raise ten fold, you'll know how to defend yourself rather decently for the rest of your life, and you'll make some friends that you'll have for a lifetime.

razor5151 · 2014-06-23T16:16:37+00:00

i'm 5'7" and wanna have a beer with you.

Cyralea · 2014-06-23T06:06:04+00:00

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thisiszerocool · 2014-06-23T06:30:28+00:00

We're a lot a like, except I took way too long to "get over this", my whole life I've faced it as an issue. Now that I'm 19, I'm starting to actually getting over it and realising it's just a characteristc, I'm not defined by it. I have to say that feeling confident about yourself it's pretty fucking great.

And working towards a better version of me, I liked it, great post.

spetznatz · 2014-06-23T10:42:32+00:00

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DarkCircle · 2014-06-23T08:43:46+00:00

One thing I have realized is that the tall pretty boys that look like they have everything women could want, usually have no personality. You have to work harder, but sometimes you can out do them.

2014-06-23T19:13:32+00:00

i can say stuff about short:

i had a communication course this weekend - 3 days, 08:00 to 18:00. a block seminar that's called.

our mentor was an older guy, mid 40s i'd say. 1 meter 70cm at best. i'd give him a 5 on the looks dep. not ripped, rather thin, dressed like a uni professor, because well, he is one. (old black boots, pale jeans, no belt, white t shirt and a buttoned shirt that was one size bigger than his build)

the girls in this course were practically dripping for him, all because he carried himself well and acted confident. he IS confident, and that's the point. it was really amazing to see. the girls in the course were all 18-20.

i could also notice how each one got pissy when he'd go and talk to another girl, or ask one girl questions, the rest would sulk. it was quiet the sight to witness.

Night-watcher · 2014-06-23T09:43:49+00:00

Are you more successful at day game or night game?

2014-06-23T12:23:26+00:00

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Hyooge · 2014-06-23T12:58:15+00:00

The only time being short is a negative is if you are insecure about it. I've lost respect for shorter guys when they try to make up for their height, but if they show that it doesn't bother them, they are treated the same as any other man.

Of course it must be difficult because some insensitive or provocative people bring it up, but not giving a fuck about something uncontrollable and dealing with it is what puts you at the top ultimately.

2014-06-23T13:31:12+00:00

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bisexie · 2014-06-23T15:28:33+00:00

I wrestled varsity four years in high school, and it shows off.

Props for being in the varsity! Not everyone can achieve that.

MisterHanSolo · 2014-06-23T16:58:18+00:00

I have to say I agree with you on the wrestling thing. It is one of the most (physically) brutal sports out there. Not just because the actual matches are hard, but the training as well. That said, it does some serious damage to your body, so you have to be willing to sacrifice in order to do it.

throvvvvavvvvay · 2014-06-23T20:52:46+00:00

I pretty much disagree with 80% of the vitriol on this subreddit, but theres a 20% here that is gold

I haven't done the numbers but yeah, something like that. I try to see it as guys who are struggling with figuring it all out and I'm ok giving them somewhat of a pass because I understand their frustration.

sokolske · 2014-06-23T23:17:51+00:00

Dam did I learn so much from there than any possible sport I've done. I have a great respect for it, but dam wrestlers are fucking nukes if they're going in for a weight in, couldn't stand the pessimistic attitude and complaining for the lack of food.

watersign · 2014-06-24T01:43:53+00:00

im your height. i can honestly say that having a big personality is the key to success. im a pretty narcisstic, introverted person but i have a good corporate job and i try to socialise and be friendly with everyone. not related to anything regarding women but i know theres alot of short guys out there who hate their lives....focus on yourself guys, get money, be somebody and be smart.

TheRedTrader · 2014-06-24T02:36:40+00:00

I appreciate your post. I am curious however what are some of the main themes that you disagree with on here?

Also devils advocate; allot of people would contend its more your facial aesthetics that make the biggest difference in terms of physical attraction. Whilst you did mention this in the title you haven't mentioned anything in your post about how you can rule out the fact that you're not just a very good looking guy.

MRAfront · 2014-06-24T14:52:56+00:00

Interesting enough, most guys at the gym I see are 5'9 or below, latino like Italian men are known to be very short but at the same time are known to be two demographics good with women, first world countries females tend to have high standard when it comes to tallness, but women from underdeveloped countries don't have a issue being with a short man, look at clubs in the USA with a high latino audience and most women are taller (plus high heels) than many of their male companion.

rpdoomed · 2014-06-23T21:46:15+00:00

Wrestling coach here, wrestled for 12 years. Nothing teaches you to be more manly or self discipline than that sport. It truly is the best for learning a lot of the hard knock lessons in life.

Spiderman48 · 2014-06-23T06:38:18+00:00

I invite anyone who says height and looks matter to look at Mr. Mickey Rooney.

brb 5'2

brb looked like he was 12 years old

brb multiple smoking hot wives over the course of his lifetime, and countless extramarital affairs with beautiful women.

McRedMan · 2014-06-23T05:49:26+00:00

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jatora · 2014-06-23T13:53:08+00:00

Sounds like a post from the definition of short-man syndrome. There's nothing wrong with short people besides the chip they get on their shoulder.

ALSO. Don't do wrestling people, please join another sport worth a damn. This guy is faboying wrestling way too hard. Any sport in high school will teach you all the same things, minus the laughable self-defense of a fighting sport that doesn't allow punching.

Other sports are way more logical as there is no such thing as a pickup game wrestling match. Other sports keep on giving your whole life with more friends and more fun, while wrestling ends when you leave school.

PlebDestroyer · 2014-06-23T07:29:47+00:00

Lmao Manley of peace eh? Honestly, at this point, if anyone is having trouble slaying some poon I'd suggest checking out project Go. Pirate it, pay for it, whatever. They'll pretty much teach you all you need to know, or at least that's how it was for me.

I wish people would stop posting about how to get women on this sub, it's not what it's about. It's clutter.

Mardoo · 2014-06-23T09:09:23+00:00

so you're saying that you're a gay manlet who "wrestles" with other dudes...

good for you brah.

i'm 190cm and can't gain any fucking muscle because i'm so fucking huge... fuck this.

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Date	June 23, 2014 4:30 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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