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[–][deleted] points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
See a lawyer? Have a draft thats signature ready? Oreoared finances for 12 months after filing?
Any planning at all? Or is this just a useless, faggot ultimatum?
You are so focused on convincing us you were calm when you told her to go fuck herseof, that it looks like you forgot to do any fucking work.
Though this must have been cathartic, too bad it wasnt useful, redpill, or even fucjing interesting to read.
[–]shiponfire points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Agreed i lost my cool, not redpill at all. Im just tired of her disrespect. Shit tests are one thing this is not that.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I understand you're angry at her and you want out. And if that's what you want, that's cool. Go for it. But if you think there's a chance that she'll come around it might be worth it to calm down and not be so reactive.
If you own your shit better (not even worrying about what she's doing. Bitches be bitchy) the probably eventuality is that you won't get so angry when she's a bitch.
It's not manly to threaten to divorce her during the heat of the moment. Take stock of the situation. See where you're contributing to the problem. My guess is that you're behaving in a way that makes her anger worse. Maybe some "Nice Guy" patterns that aren't so nice.
So before you take your ball and go home, make sure you're being a good team player
[–]A_RexRED KNIGHT0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So sex, family, finances, kids all good. But OP threatens divorce in an argument similar to that which my 4 year old would have with a friend, because OP can't deal with her "anger issues".
So much faggotry here it hurts.
I'm taking a page out of your playbook here, Stoney. This one isn't worth the fucking effort.
[–]ArchwingerRed Beret3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you were serious about divorcing your wife, you'd have met with your lawyer, had papers drawn up, gotten your financial ducks in a row, had a plan for the next few months at the very least, and come home to serve your wife with papers. It's not like this is a new issue, and it's not like you haven't addressed it with her before. And it's not like she doesn't know exactly what she's doing and whether it's something a good wife does. She is deliberately being the exact opposite of a good wife and has been for some time.
But you're not serious about divorce. You've only done a small fraction of the preparatory work, and you're using divorce as an ultimatum to try to force your wife to do something she doesn't want to do. You're trying to make a power play and using divorce as leverage, which is what women do.
And the reason you're trying to do it? Because she doesn't respect you. And how did she respond? With the truth: "I don't respect you, so I'm not losing much of a man. I wanted a divorce anyway."
Your wife isn't going to do shit about your ultimatum, because she knows that if you were a real man, you'd have already filed for divorce. Probably months ago before things got to this point. And instead, you're blustering and threatening like a bitchy little woman. She knows you ain't shit.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
So, Divorce is not something you "put on the table" like its an entree option.
either you want a divorce from this woman or you do not. Its not a comfort test to say "its what you wanted". It's what she sees.
Either divorce her or don't. But don't threaten something you really dont want to do.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
What's tragic about this whole thing is that with some self work(on her part)this could probably a good marriage. There needs to be a third party to call her out and show her that she needs help and walk her through the steps. No way she will believe it from her husband.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
There needs to be a third party to call her out and show her that she needs help
thats not how that works. She needs to loose something first.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
I don't think that's always the case. It's possible for a person with a brain to be presented with new information and have a revelation or change of views. Drawing on personal experience that's what happened with me, new information in = change of perspective and life. I didn't lose anything and wasn't threatened with losing anything, in fact I was the main perpetrator of that kind of behavior before RP.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
are you a guy?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Nope.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Hmm. well, I am not the OP, but I would bet he and other people have given her information before.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It really depends on where it's coming from and how. From a spouse it's the easiest thing in the world to get caught up and justify or twist what's said into something that fits to you. Same with family/friends. Brains are just good at doing the easiest things so placing blame elsewhere is almost default. Also makes a lot of sense when you consider that human brains are wired to find patterns.
The way it worked for me was being presented logically with "do you have this laundry list of feelings/outlooks," realizing I was/did and then following through because I didn't want to be that anymore. It was eyeopening, although painful, but in the end I'm very grateful.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Did you stop stealing cocks, and where did you hide them?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
They overflow my closet. The ones I keep outside wake us up at 04 in the morning so there's that issue as well. There's just one though that I like best though and I think you know what happened to that guy :)
[–]PersaeusRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
lmao, couldn't you tell from the username. she steals dick.
So many fags here, its hard to tell sometimes.
[–]PersaeusRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
use the feelz
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My Schwartz is at capacity
[–]PersaeusRed Beret1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
touche
[–]mabden3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Here is how a buddy of mine initiated his divorce from his nightmare of a wife:
Hired a lawyer.
Had divorce papers drawn up that heavily favored him.
Contacted a realtor to set up getting his city house on the market.
Contacted HR to understand/get forms to change beneficiary on benefits.
Contacted bank(s) to setup separate checking/savings accounts.
Contacted Life Insurance agent to change beneficiary.
Found an affordable apartment in the suburbs, paid deposit first months rent.
Lined up buddies/family to help move his wife out of the home an into the apartment.
Lined up locksmith to have locks changed.
On a Friday, he came home early, told his wife he had enough, he is filling for divorce, gave her an hour to pack, his buddies showed up with a truck and moved all her shit out to her new apartment with her and her divorce papers along with it, as the truck was driving away, the locksmith was changing the locks, the realtor was putting a for sale sign in his front yard, his pay check was being deposited in his new account, he cracked open a beer, put some steaks on the grill and once his buddies came back from dropping her off, had a party.
Why this worked, she was in total shock. YMMV.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
curious. what if she declined to leave?
I am asking from a legal and logistical perspective
[–]mabden0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
good question. did not come up, not sure what advice the lawyer was giving him, just assumed he was good with it, but I believe my buddy was ready to call the cops first, her family second. She was not on the deed, everything was in his name, no kids involved.
The example was to demonstrate, start the process BEFORE you tell the wife. Starting the divorce process after announcing you are divorcing your wife creates a drama filled existence while you get your shit together.
My buddies divorce took over a year, but during that time he came home to peace an quiet, instead of a pissed off soon to be ex wife.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know why the example, just figured I would ask how he gets a woman legally out of the house she was living in. At least squatters right and all...
This reads like red pill porn. No woman who understand family law will just sulk away to some shit apartment.
[–]mabden0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It was actually a decent place in a nice community that she was soon sharing with some beta bux.
ARe you paying her rent or does she cover that?
[–]mabden0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not me, my buddy, he paid the security deposit and the first months, that;s it.
[–]bala-key0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is glorious.
[–]PersaeusRed Beret2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
wife is a big meanie; and i threaten to take my toys and go home
you're so fucking GAY
But what do, cant just AA disrespect. How do you not draw a line in the sand.
Im only mildly gay :)
[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Sure you can. Who ever told you that you couldn't?
Because it is continuous. AA it for awhile but it just comes back stronger. Its not a shit test. Her parents have a crap marraige and her mother emasculated her father years ago. She is attemting to recreate that dynamic with me. Same tone and shittyness as her mother.
Id rather be divorced.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
She is attemting to recreate that dynamic with me
how long now?
and yes, you sound pretty gay.
Most of the relathionship. Basically the minute we got out of the honneymoon phase.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So, this is different from anything else you said you were gonna do... how?
Not sure what you mean? I take action on my words. This will be no different. Looks like im getting divorced.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ok. get back to us when its done.
[–]drty_prRed Beret1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She can only treat you like shit if you let her. Stop being a pussy.
So the only training she's had on marriage was from that kind of shit show. Her behavior fully makes sense. Better luck next time.
[–]PersaeusRed Beret1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
you can actually AA anything, and i mean anything (see dead baby jokes).
But what do
it's hard to answer this question without knowing whether you're just the typical dumbfuck lurker who is all balls and no brass; or whether you have actually been putting in the work and have reached the end of your rope.
your responses indicate you're a dumbfuck, so i will answer the question in that regard. wife is a disrespectful cunt, standard protocols are:
be a man of value, both beta and alpha . . . otherwise, what does she have to lose? nothing . . . she get's most of the kids and more than 1/2 your $$$ either way
remove attention and affection,
if said children are involved in cuntiness, then remove them as well.
rinse and repeat, ever increasing the removal of attention and affection
start removing resources
start removing your presence and make preparation for D-day
drop the D like this guy
on the other hand, you could be a dumbfuck and drop it like this guy
[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You have no intention of going back right now, but in your betaness you will be ready to "solve the problem" when you get home.
[–]donedreadpirateRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
She puts on the waterworks, it's over.
[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And.... after work..... deleted.
[–]donedreadpirateRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Too bad he can't delete the actual fuck up...
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[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A woman has a shitty attitude? Say it tisn't so!
Before you file for divorce you should examine your attitude. She is probably a reflection of you.
Bitching and complaining is the normal state of most women unless they have been fucked right in the last couple of days. It is CONSTANT which is why so many men collapse in the face of a wife's onslaught. The tiny river carved out the mighty Grand Canyon...
[–]donedreadpirateRed Beret1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm willing to bet you didn't even read The Mindful Attraction Plan, much less follow it, and this was not you entering Phase Six.
I have and this was not a phase, i was being reactive. I lost my cool.
So you don't want a divorce?
Ultimately no for kids, but im pretty much done with the bullshit so yes. Im ok with it
You have two weeks to create the conditions where it's possible.
Everyone else said pretty much what i was going to say.
I would never ever recommend emoting and saying shit like "Either do X within Y time or I'm filing for divorce". I did that, but I was really lucky, and was with a wife who knew she was acting like a cunt. Problem was, she was acting like a cunt because she was married to me, who was also acting like a cunt.
Just like you're doing.
She responded with "something about divorce being what I wanted anyway" (comfort test?) I responded: "2 weeks". No other communication, went to work.
Just wanted to tell you, no, her response is not a comfort test, or a shit test, or any other kind of test. It's a "double dog dare". It's an assertion that she doesn't want to be married to you, she's daring you to file, and she's doing that because she's very confident you won't file and follow through.
Now that you've said this, you've put yourself in a position where you have no choice but to file. If you don't, she'll never respect you. Because she "double dog dared" you, and if you pussy out from a double dog dare, you've lost all respect with little if any hope of getting it back.
He deleted the post and account, so he is even to much of wimp to face internet strangers. He will cave into his harpies crevice like a straw house being blown by the big bad wolf.
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