Lost sixty pounds, went back to my college town to hang out with my friends, and bitches, bitches, bitches . . .

fyseaking · 2014-10-04T04:18:05+00:00

If you're fat you'll generally come off as creepy unless you're alpha as fuck.

morph85 · 2014-10-04T11:38:25+00:00

Sorry for the harsh tone, but here's my take on this...

I think when you were fat, they did not consider you a threat, creepy or anything at all since they just ignored you as a potential... anything. Plus, you being so fat they probably put you in the politically correct category and avoid making fun of you openly to not seem like bad people. But now, getting in a better shape and being confident, they are aware of your masculinity but simply dismiss it because you still present beta features (being short and still chubby/fat). That's why they see it as normal behavior to call you creepy or boss you around. Now they acknowledge you, but don't give you any social value and don't expect you to stand up for yourself and put them in their place. If you speak up, they just get pissed for trying to act outside what they believe you are "permitted" by your social value.

To answer your questions: 1) yes, since i am on the short side as well. 2) yes. being labeled a creep is directly correlated with your SMV. Your confidence and social skills usually come after the label, and many times you are using them to fight it off. It is what it is...

Keep doing what you are doing man, keep hitting the gym and your looks will catch up with your confidence and you'll be alright. You'll still be short, so most women will still give you shit about it, but it will be a lot better overall, and with a good social status you'll earn the respect you deserve.

favours_of_the_moon · 2014-10-04T12:42:51+00:00

You didn't creep her. That's a catch all term that a bitch uses as a weapon.

If a bitch says you're creeping, agree and escalate.

MaxPower6 · 2014-10-04T04:36:04+00:00

Dude. Shrug off the strikes. At least they're not foul balls.

You seem overly concerned with quantifying your SMV. Having a plan and working to improve it is great. Beyond that, stop thinking about it. No reason to mentally handicap yourself because you're short or armless or whatever. With TRP and some balls, you're almost instantly in the top 10%.

On dealing with bitches. Positivity is the best frame. Confidence is good, yes. But you should also work to radiate love and joy. Bitchy behavior should roll over you. Lead the group like a father. You should look at her like she's a 3yo who took a shit next to the christmas tree on christmas morning. You are disappointed. She should know better. When she acts ashamed, you forgive.

MaxPower6 · 2014-10-04T05:36:58+00:00

I went through the same shit. Lost a bunch of weight, went full monk for almost a year while traveling and doing freelance work. Confidence was probably 2-3 notches too high, and lots of women started complaining like I creeped them out when I came back to civilization in a new city. I hate to say it, but dial it back a notch in public / at work, and around all but your closest bros... if you feel like you're saying too much, you are. It's a little stoic, but until your attitude and exterior match people will sense incongruence and hamster out 'creepy', seriously better to feel too stoic than too talkative 'till you've calibrated.

Occams_Shiv · 2014-10-04T04:35:29+00:00

I just looked her in the eye and said "No." And walked away.

Fine work Sir. Keep practicing telling women "No." It is the sexiest and most satisfying thing you can say to a woman.

cover20 · 2014-10-04T06:56:57+00:00

you're good, they're messed up.

You're confident and have perspective and they don't know how to handle that so they lash out. Just move on.

Prattler26 · 2014-10-04T11:40:13+00:00

One girl's creep is another girl's treasure. Make them love or hate you.

NS_white · 2014-10-04T04:10:18+00:00

Confidence is part of your SMV. Don't think you have to lower it to match the rest of you. Keep it up.

Homosubi · 2014-10-04T05:22:27+00:00

My most drunk friend (white) made a joke about how all the black people on campus know each other (which me and another black friend concurred with. It's a small campus).

There is so little actual racism that people have to go out of their way to find things offensive so that they can call them racist.

Since racism is used as the excuse for every problem that blacks and Hispanics have, it just HAS to be everywhere. Even white guys who are friends with blacks are racist. But I mean, I guess that makes sense. How are you supposed to oppress an entire race unless there are scores of hidden racists who just pretend to be friends with blacks just so they can sneak some crack rock into their pockets or slash their tires so that they are late to their job?

Misteralcala · 2014-10-04T08:42:50+00:00

Hamsters gonna hamst. But seriously, 'creep shaming' sucks. It's the new tool in a woman's arsenal that's meant to emasculate us and deflate our egos. Eat it and smile, then move on. Don't waste energy on cunts like that.

MomoUnchained · 2014-10-04T15:48:26+00:00

You're a short, fat minority. Attractive women don't wanna fuck you or want other people thinking they would consider it.

Hit the gym for 6 months, eat right, get cooler clothes, and some shoe lifts before you make another post here.

ThePragmatist42 · 2014-10-04T13:05:24+00:00

The first guy liked the girl you were talking to. It was his way of getting you to back down.

[deleted] · 2014-10-04T04:19:24+00:00

Does this friend really have the best in mind for you? He could like her, etc. and could be acting dishonestly. Or he decided you creeped her out, even though it's just in his mind.

Another option is you might be coming off as creepy. You can't really tell without having more interactions, though.

Stationarity · 2014-10-04T05:46:30+00:00

I feel you man. Since swallowing the red pill, I've become very impatient at moving my SMV up. I've dropped 60 pounds(with more to go) and my confidence is sky high. They don't see it yet though.

Padre55 · 2014-10-04T15:30:28+00:00

Deal kinda is, when you change yourself that much you probably need to change your social circle and not bother with the females who knew you when you were large.

Reason being, once people form an opinion of someone, it rarely ever changes, with new people they do not know you from the past so you are starting over on page 1 with them.

thinktankman · 2014-10-05T02:52:34+00:00

I was so shocked. This bitch really was telling me to drop my friends over a joke. It was like I woke up when she said that. She was trying to manipulate me. I just looked her in the eye and said "No." And walked away. Bitches man.

My main reason why some women annoy me. For some reason or another there fucking brains can't understand context or sarcasm. There is a fine fucking line between racism and a joke. Hell, there is a fine line between a rape joke and fucking rape.

AllMenDrip · 2014-10-04T06:22:39+00:00

Dunno what to say : cool story bro

savoryprunes · 2014-10-04T20:11:39+00:00

I'm assuming that girl 1 is white. It's possible that she's the racist in the group. Most white women won't admit that they carry an "ewww" attitude toward black men. Many of them do, though.

Transmigratory · 2014-10-05T00:53:18+00:00

Most black chicks have a chip on the shoulder, tbh. They don't realise that's the reason they tend to be unpopular.

Title	Lost sixty pounds, went back to my college town to hang out with my friends, and bitches, bitches, bitches . . .
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Date	October 4, 2014 2:59 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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