Solipsism and contempt

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April 9, 2019

If women are naturally solipsistic how can one discern between that and contempt in an ltr.

Edit: More of when it comes making day to day decisions. Ex. We get/make dinner together if we are hanging out. But if shes already eaten, I have to do it myself for myself. And her consideration of me is nonexistent because her needs have been met. aka im not being put first.

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Title Solipsism and contempt
Author desertfox130
Upvotes 10
Comments 31
Date 09 April 2019 08:59 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (8 children) | Copy

The two are different.

Solipsism is thinking the world is exactly as you experience. For example, women trying to make you jealous are doing it because that behavior would make them jealous. They can’t comprehend that it destroys her chances of getting commitment because jealousy is what motivates her to lock you down.

Another example of solipsism is believing in a “patriarchy” where men help other men get ahead. Men are pretty cut throat and if you drown only your good friends will throw you a life preserver. Women believe there’s a male conspiracy “patriarchy” because there is a sorority where women help women they don’t know in order to beat a man. Men don’t help men dominate women, but women help women do that. So they solipsistically believe men must do the same.

Contempt is a form of disrespect you earn by being blue pill. It is a harbinger of bad times ahead and is a warning shot that you need to go out and game.

[–]lololasaurus7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

This comment about solipsism and patriarchy is really underrated. Fantastic point.

[–]SuperCrazy071 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. I’ve always thought there’s no such thing as the patriarchy without ever understanding why women think there is. Eye opening.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy

You have a pretty good understanding on one of the aspects of solipsism. One of the examples Rollo provides is how every women he ever knew (and every one I know) will start taking to you in the middle of their train of thought... and you have no idea what she’s talking about because you don’t reside in her train of thought... so you lack context. She assumes you know where she is in her thoughts because she hasn’t considered you have your own thoughts going on. This is proof of their solipsistic thinking...

It’s a very deep concept, and it has many facets.

[–]TheRoriss3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sylvia Plaths "a mad girls love song" is a glimpse into the mind of a true solipsist. It's not just a word you can bandy about I reckon.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, that’s more of the literal meaning of solipsism

[–]donmcde3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You and AWorseManThanYou just blew my mind. My wife does all of that all the fucking time and it used to confuse the fuck out of me. She'd change topics with no transition and could not parse how anyone could think in a way she thought was morally reprehensible.

[–]gameoflibidos2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn.. i didn't know that was an all women thing. My wife definitely does this all the time and then gets annoyed when I have to say "What?" cause I have no clue wtf she's talking about. She'll change subjects in her head and then my brain has no reference for what shes talking about when she starts again.

She full on believes that it's just no one listens to her, yet I've explained several times that she changed subjects in her head and I didn't know wtf she was talking about. In my head, she's still referencing the last thing we talked about and therefore my response is wrong.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

And you never will be first. Ever. Even when you have reached alpha status. At best they will be scared into but be aware women don't give one flying fuck about you, your feelings, and what you have accomplished. At all. Amazing right?

Do not expect that the woman in your life will be grateful, sacrifice for you. Even after you provided so many years and you are at the end. you have never been, and never will be, part of what is hers. What are hers will be first herself, then her (biological) children, then her parents, then her siblings, and then the rest of her blood relatives. The biological imperative has always been to extend her blood line. It stops there, and it always will. This is true everywhere in the world. Get over it

So let's reverse this poor me little bitch attitude.

I don't GAF about a women's accomplishments either. Her job, accomplishments, stellar record don't turn me on. They are not an attraction. I could care less. These things are not hallmarks of femininity. I have seen powerful and strong women flipping hamburgers as I have seen in the board room. Neither am I intimidated by what she has accomplished because I know I will and can out perform her at every turn. We can all talk about how she would do it for Chad but sometimes even Chad won't over ride her sollipilism. That's fine, because Chad knows he can either cook something up or go out and buy a 5 star meal. Have some fun. Maybe find a girl to join him if he so wishes.

I grew up in the old world. My grandparents were right off the boat. In the city I grew up in each block was a cultural ghetto of sorts. One block greeks, that block Italians, that other irish. Men and women living much as we discuss here. My grandfather taught that all men should know 3 things

  1. how to cook
  2. how to sew
  3. How to do laundry

You would think that's so he can help out around the house. No. It was because when men were in the fields or with the herds for days they had to survive. No one was going to do it for them. Men were, are, and need to be self sufficient. I do all the domestic stuff because it needs doing. It's easy and simple. we live in a first world society. Life is pretty redundant and simple.

Remember who the fuck you are and stop crying that some girl didn't make your corn flakes for you.

[–]desertfox130[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I appreciate your input. I know this comes across as butt hurt. Im assuming the worst and I believe that my time with this girl is starting to come to an end whether I want it or not. It will all be okay though.

[–]BarracudaRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

+1 and saved. This is fucking gold, hidden under the turd of OPs post. I've never read such a clear description of how a woman prioritizes her family, and it is a stark reminder of where I truly exist on my wife's food chain.

Glad I'm not the only one who sews buttons on my clothes and does my own laundry. Rather than bitch to my wife for not doing it, I just fucking do it. If it's that important, I should have vetted my wife better. End of story.

[–]Luck-670 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Very well articulated.

[–]tspitsatgp5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

When your LTR shows real contempt to you then you will know.

Mommy not helping you make your dinner is not contempt. Her making and serving up dinner for everyone in the house except you - while you are present - would be contempt. I.e. you would fucking notice.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

A few weeks ago wife called me for dinner and put plates down for everyone except me. I told her to get up and get me a plate or no one is eating. She did, but she was pretty fucking heated.

I fucking noticed.

[–]friendandadvisor0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Did you ever get an explanation for what the fuck she was trying to pull?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bitches be crazy. My 5 year old does all kinds of crazy shit for attention, I don't usually try and figure out why either.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Straight up. A woman will strip on command and fuck you on the spot, if you are the right one. Pulling your pants down and blowing you is also a sign of your high value.

Don’t ever confuse anything else.

High fucking value.

MThat includes making you dinner.

[–]dll1421 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

very true... if you're her Chad, she'll be happy to let you lead and rule her

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

A happy bitch will suck you dick and swallow your come when you bust in her mouth.

[–]desertfox130[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

What do you call a chick who dont suck dick?

You dont.

[–]BostonBrakeJob2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why does it matter?

[–]JudgeDoom691 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh noooo! Mommy didn't make me any dinner! Waa waa fucking waa.

Re-frame your thinking. You are the prize and eating in your presence is a privilege. Cooking for the king of the house is an honor. If your wife has already eaten, it's her loss. Make yourself something amazing and savor the food and the time alone.

(Then clean up your mess, you lazy fucking slob)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Please give us an example that you are confused about.

[–]desertfox130[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Ex. We get/make dinner together if we are hanging out. But if shes already eaten, I have to do it myself for myself. And her consideration of me is nonexistent because her needs have been met. aka im not being put first. Where would this fall

[–]johneyapocalypseThe one that says "Bad Motherfucker"7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

"I have to do it myself for myself" - quelle horreur.

[–]desertfox130[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I know if I dont take care of myself no one else will which is evident. how why when doesnt matter but what is the message, if there is any

[–]WesternhagenWinner0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You could try communicating your expectations instead of passively accepting the situation.

Compliance testing her for food is like compliance testing her for sex. You want her to do something for you. The same rules apply - if she declines, it is because your merit in her eyes is low, and you can't act butthurt about it.

[–]gameoflibidos1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

thats not solipsism, that's narcissism and all women have different degrees of that too.

But in this case.. you're a grown man, she expects you to be able to take care of yourself. In caveman days, the woman didnt go hunt some elk cause her man was hungry. Only Lions got that set up going.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If she tells you that up front that seems alright. If you are expecting the experience with her that is a little different.

I don't view this as a big deal, I enjoy cooking and she might still hang out with you while you cook the food. I don't do that with my wife all that often, but sometimes I do and she always says thank you.

It really depends on if you ask her for help. If she's not the type to just cook for you, she's not that type. Hopefully she has other habits that make up for that.

[–]friendandadvisor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Perhaps you've been hanging out with her a bit more than you should. Perhaps she needs to get to the point in your relationship where she says to herself "Hmmm...I wonder if desertfox130 will come over more often if I make him dinner??"

The next question for you to answer is "Do either of your at least 2 other backup chicks cook for you?"

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If women are naturally solipsistic how can one discern between that and contempt in an ltr.

By caring. If you dont give a fuck, how could anything else besides the birds chirping. Tweet tweet!

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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