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Wife shocked to catch husband of 12 years getting a BJ at a party. Minor detail: She never gives BJs because "They just don't do anything for me."

jeanmeslier

July 27, 2014
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Title Wife shocked to catch husband of 12 years getting a BJ at a party. Minor detail: She never gives BJs because "They just don't do anything for me."
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jeanmeslier

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Date July 27, 2014 7:52 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 119 points120 points121 points 11 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

The funny thing is that she says: "Him getting a blowjob hurt me because I don't give him blowjobs."

I could accept: "Him getting a blowjob hurt me because I give him head all the time and I had been perfecting my skills during years of marriage."

But it's not new for me. A friend told me that it hurt her so much when her boyfriend cheated on her, because she has very low libido and rejected sex most of the time/nearly all the time. After the breakup she said she doesn't EVER want to hear again "I cheated because we almost never have sex."

So her plan was to find someone who is "more understanding."

I can understand it to some extend. You dont want someone to be better at something that makes your partner happy.

But the other woman wasn't better for no reason. His wife wasn't even trying.

The same old "I don't want to put effort in, so I declare the current state (no bjs) to be the best state. The state that is good for my husband. My husband isn't allowed to be unhappy with this state. He has to want what I want. I want no bjs so he isn't allowed to want bjs."

This is what "I am a sexually experienced woman and I know what I want" is usually code for. It means "I know now after riding the carousel what I don't want and my SO will not get it."

[–]RPsixthree 33 points34 points35 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't want to put effort in, so I declare the current state (no bjs) to be the best state. The state that is good for my husband. My husband isn't allowed to be unhappy with this state. He has to want what I want. I want no bjs so he isn't allowed to want bjs

That's fucking pathetic.

But not surprising, unfortunately...

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's why you have to lead.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely. In over twenty years of watching people's relationships disintegrate (I'm 40), one of the biggest indicators for marital destruction is when the wife wears the pants. Interestingly, it just as often leads to the wife cheating or leaving, usually for a guy who is more alpha or in a role of higher authority—e.g., her boss. In other cases, the brow-beaten husband might end up with someone in a lower position who automatically defers to him—like his younger assistant at work—and he'll suddenly feel like a man again, which is extremely hard to resist.

[–]RedPillington 21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I also like that she says they talked about it early on "but i guess he figured out it wasn't going to happen"

and there are still retards in there suggesting he should have communicated? hey ladies: maybe this dude is better acquainted with his marriage than you are.

fair amount of non-RP but decent advice in there though.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

fair amount of non-RP but decent advice in there though.

True... people seem to wake up a bit. Not long ago it would have been: "She doesnt want to give bjs. He wants bjs. What a monster!!!"

[–]planned_serendipity1 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

fair amount of non-RP but decent advice in there though.

I mostly credit that to 2X now being a default. That brings in a lot more guys and breaks up the female "women can do no wrong" circlejerk that 2X can be.

[–]RedPillington 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah, i remember the vomiting over the influx of alternate opinions when it first happened. i guess it did them good. who would've thought?

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

fair amount of non-RP but decent advice in there though.

Have to admit that I was surprised that she was called out on her pillowqueening.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what "I am a sexually experienced woman and I know what I want" is usually code for. It means "I know now after riding the carousel what I don't want and my SO will not get it."

You deserve gold for this.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is also the exact same rationale fat people that don't want to change use.

[–]bertstare10 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is what "I am a sexually experienced woman and I know what I want" is usually code for. It means "I know now after riding the carousel what I don't want and my SO will not get it."

I disagree with this analysis... unless you are implying that what "she" doesn't want is her SO... as in he's not high value/attractive enough to get it.

[–]Redpiller456 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps. Her husband could be a "beta bux."

Riding the carousel long enough would make any woman selfish. Imagine you have a girl that slept through her 20s and wasn't in any long-term relationships. Suddenly she wants to "settle down." That type of person is going to make for a fucking shitty wife because of the complete lack of experience in a committed relationship.

Short-term flings (over a long enough period of time) promote selfish behavior. You don't have to compromise, resolve conflict, or even do anything for someone else. It's all about "me." So someone who hasn't practiced what it takes to be a committed partner is going to make for a shitty partner, it's just that simple. This is why I would never ever be in an LTR with a girl that has a high partner count.

Not sure if that's the case here, but I think you're right that it's partly a SMV thing. Maybe his wife sucked too much stallion cock in the past. His wife was probably in situations where alphas shoved their horse dick down her throat. So when she gets into a real relationship, it's "I don't do BJs anymore, I think it's degrading, but you can go down on me."

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree, not every woman will do everything because she enjoys it, but because she thinks she has to try it out and because she thinks she can bag a guy with it.

[–]shallanalla 54 points55 points56 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

In the last 3 weeks I have a different person who looks like my husband but she didn't act like it. He had been going to therapy every week, church on Sundays, he cooks dinner (he rarely cooked anything more than Mac and cheese for the kids). HE WRITES ME POETRY!!!! We talk at night, and play games with the kids almost nightly, and he never had his phone out when he's home.

that's one hell of a freudian slip right there

husband is killing his marriage inch by inch, god damn

[–]PieroDrawsRandomCrap 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I also caught that one. Fucking golden.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

no. it's a dude making a troll post.

[–]Clauderoughly 63 points64 points65 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

She can't understand that a woman made him feel, awesome, sexually desirable, and happy and that the woman wasn't her.

This is super dread game, and him learning that he has options.

[–]jez99 50 points51 points52 points 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

This is super dread game, and him learning that he has options.

His post-BJ behavior is the very opposite of "super dread game", if we believe wifey's version of events. More like superniceguy's-complete-absence-of-game. He thinks that behaving like a chump is his best chance of saving his marriage. "HE WRITES ME POETRY!!!!" she says. Thank Christ she didn't post any of it.

Even after 12 years, the husband doesn't know how to be a husband and the wife doesn't know how to be a wife. Or so it seems to me.

[–]Rpillacc 39 points40 points41 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let's be fair; if someone had my finances by the balls and I was caught doing something next to unforgivable to them, I'd be a little suck up too.

But I have no intention of getting married, so whatever.

[–]RedPillington 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe the guy is just happy again so he's back to being self expressed. maybe he's like "oh shit maybe if I give this bitch poems, she will get it through her thick fucking skull I want her to suck my dick instead of some sloppy party ho."

I write poetry and songs and shit, and sometimes I accidentally wrote something for a woman. so fucking kill me.

[–]tsudonimh 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

His post-BJ behavior has aspects of alpha and beta. The dude is running and getting fit again; in one comment the OP describes him as looking "bites lip"

[–]TREVI5001 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Well for once it seems that the comments seem at least somewhat reasonable. Was she being pretty lousy about refusing to do something he asked? Maybe. However, he still did cheat on her, so she wouldn't exactly be crazy to want a divorce. It certainly does seem that she is ignoring the root of the problem, in that she simply wasn't doing something that her husband wanted. Relationships are a significant amount of give and take. You have to give up some shit in order to get some back, but she doesn't see that she has done anything wrong, simply because he was the one to make a misstep. Situations like this just seem crappy for everyone involved, even if there is a lesson to be learned from it. Too bad for their kids that this is probably going to drive a wedge between them and make the home life uncomfortable.

[–]MrRIP 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I guess you didn't read this one. This ho is ridiculous

"[-] Unsmurfme -23 Points 19:06:20, 26 July My unsolicited advice is to have him speak to every single member of his family individually and admit to them what he's done and talk about what he's going to do in order to make it right (which you will pre-agree on). Then there are no family secrets, and it will really help sink in what he's done. Then see counselling.

Whether you can forgive him or not or want to be with him again or not, you want to have a good relationship and for everyone to be on the same page. He's still dad, and his family is your kid's family. So make sure you find a way to have a good relationship.

I'm so sorry this happened, and take or leave this advice as you see fit. I just thought it was worth sharing."

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

LOL. "Hey Mom, my wife wanted me to tell you that some chick gave me a blowjob at a 4th of July party we were at. Make sure to tell Dad too."

[–]RedPillington 35 points36 points37 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

that would be a breeze in my family.

mom: so, no blow jobs for 14 years?

me: yeah

mom: no wonder you've seemed tense. how was this other lady? you think she wants a relationship?

[–]Ulquiorra_Schiffer 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Shit, my mother might tell me that I should have bailed before that, but she'd have about the exact same reaction as yours.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Man, my Mom would be ecstatic to know she produced such a ladies' man. The only thing she'd ask would be "Was the girl Jewish?" I'd remind mom that blowjobs don't lead to offspring, she'd remind me to use protection, and after 15 minutes of listening to herself talk, she might remember to ask how my wife's doing.

Dad would tell me to shelter some money, but would assume I'd already done so if I was off getting blowjobs. Maybe one of my aunts would scold me, but we hardly talk anyway, so I'd have some fun explaining.

[–]ProjectShamrock 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If I were in that situation I think my mom would just ignore it, my dad (if he were alive) would probably offer to buy me a beer, and my siblings would probably just think I'm weird for telling them. All would probably not want my wife around anymore. I wonder what the weirdo that suggested that was thinking?

[–]MockingDead 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish I were related to this guy, so he could tell me and I could say "Awesome, your wife is a cold shrew. Let's go catting."

[–]frequentlywrong 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP speaks in generalities. If he says the comments are at least somewhat reasonable does not mean every comment is.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If my wife came out with a "I don't give head" final word on the matter, I'd be filing for divorce pretty shortly thereafter.

It's not just that I'd be living permanently without blow jobs, which I see getting on a regular basis as a quality of life issue, but mostly the knowledge that I'm married to a selfish cunt who doesn't give a shit about my happiness. Life is too fucking short to be in a relationship with someone like that.

This ties into what I'm always saying about setting the proper boundaries. If your wife thinks she's got you sufficiently betafied and trapped, then what you do is start going to the gym and start finding activities that don't involve her.

You basically start shaping your life in preparation for a divorce, then serve your wife with papers. It might sound petty to take it to this degree, but what kind of life do you want to live? Do you want to be reminded every single day that your sexual wants and needs are meaningless to the person who is supposed to be your best friend in the whole world?

Blow jobs are not an unreasonable request.

The prevailing TRP wisdom is that wife will weigh her options, probably realizing she's getting dumped and will reconsider her ironclad "it does nothing for me" blow job rule. If not, dude gets out of a relationship where his needs are a non-consideration. Either way it's a win.

By being the one suing for divorce, his chance of getting divorce raped are mitigated somewhat.

He takes his lumps, chalks it up and seeks out companionship where his needs are more of a priority.

[–]jeanmeslier[S] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, a girl refusing blowjobs seems like a pretty clear warning sign that she isn't really that attracted to you and is in the relationship for other reasons. With every girl I've ever been with when I've felt like a blowjob, I just walked up and stuck my dick in her face. Then she smiles like I've handed her some candy and starts gobbling.

[–]Frozen_Tundra 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The guy's first mistake was marrying a woman that was against giving him what he needed.

Assuming that this came up early in their relationship, as soon as she said I don't give head because they do nothing for me he should have run for the hills. ME ME ME.

My bet is he had no other options and settled.

  • Spin plates
  • Learn what you like, learn what you need (both in a person and sexually) and if they don't meet your needs, next.
  • If they do meet all your basic needs then consider an LTR if that is what you want

[–]Lumberjack1234 21 points21 points21 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Reading her comments, I can't seem to understand why did the husband tolerate such behaviour from her. She is too self-centered.

[–]1lucifa 29 points30 points31 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

further down is a detailed description of the husband's 'predictable' sex, basicallly he does all the work (incl. going down on her) while she lays there like a sack.

[–]RedPillington 26 points27 points28 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

contributing to their marriage doesn't do anything for her. check your privilege, shitlord!

[–]Redpiller456 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just because she's his wife, she doesn't owe him sex shitlord.

[–]InflatableRaft 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They have kids and he doesn't want to become a 14% dad.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably the #1 reason most dudes take so much shit from their women/wife.

If kids are out of the picture or almost grown up (like 14-18) you can more easily make that decision to say fuck this bitch and bail. Older children will understand that you two are better apart but younger children will usually end up thinking they caused it because children are very female like and think everything is about them all the time.

[–]psyflux 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Has he spoken to you about this?

[-] wellrestediam -5 Points 18:05:13, 26 July

Early on he did. But I think he eventually leaned I wasn't going to do it.

And that lesson learned was "This restaurant doesn't serve steak...I'll just have to go to that place across town any time I want a steak."

Once you realize what you want isn't on the menu you'll find yourself looking for a new place to eat. This is human nature at work, call it an addiction, call it a need, call it whatever you think best describes it.

And given the situation she described, I doubt that was his first steak from that other restaurant.

[–]MooMooMooN 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

HA! Reminds me of a woman I know said she never gives her guy blow jobs because she doesn't like doing it.. but "I'm the best at them"

Few months later the guy is caught meeting hookers to get blow jobs and she's all shocked and upset and stopped talking to me when I repeated to her: "You never sucked his dick and you are surprised?"

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The guy deserves to be dumped, if only for being so stupid to let a woman give him head at a party where his wife was.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually half of those comment aren't so bad. Quite a few people telling the wife that keeping a relationship alive is a two-way street - she seems to think it's okay to deny him [good] sex while also denying him from getting it elsewhere. She sounds about as passionate sexually as a wet handkerchief.

If somebody is brutally unhappy in a relationship there are only a few possible outcomes, and honestly, if as a spouse you take no responsibility in making your partner happy (sexually, financially, emotionally) you kind of deserve that inevitability.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the answer! Therapy will help you with the feelings, and his feelings, in a safe space.

No - just suck his dick once a fucking week and we wouldn't be here would we?

[–]Jerry_Cherry 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I have legitimate question. So it's cool if a guy cheats on a girl who "isn't trying" to keep him sexually satisfied. But what about a girl who cheats on a guy who doesn't sexually satisfy her? Is that still cool?

[–]PlusGoody 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This. Cheating is bullshit. Leaving when the other party cheats is not. And withholding sex is cheating as much as getting somewhere else.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Theoretically yes, but what kind of dude is going to deny sexually satisfying his girl? You may not want to admit it, but this is far more common place for a girl to shrug off anything a guy would want sexually than vice versa.

[–]Jerry_Cherry 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the stereotype, but I think it's a bigger issue than most men want to admit. I'm not saying it's 50/50, but it's definitely not 100/0 either. I think culturally we've decided to put our own needs before the needs of a relationship, which is why "there are no more monogamous people out there" or so they say. Instead of talking about sexual issues, people would rather do what most benefits themselves because it's easier. We don't value relationships anymore, we only value our own needs being met. Generally speaking, of course.

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[–]ubiety 0 points0 points0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Maybe if they're both religious, tried or preoccupied by work.

Men generally have a higher sex drive than women, sure exceptions exist, but in general men desire/want sex and place more importance on it for successful LTR than women.

The benefit of having multiple partners is to ensure you find a woman who has an equal sex drive, and satisfies all of your deal breakers in a girl and LTR. Women could do the same but they have different priories in LTRs than men, mainly finding someone with status, wealth and physical dominance over her.

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[–]ubiety 2 points2 points2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Maybe not explaining your position and proposing it at face value caused the down votes.

For example, you could say "Men and women are equally selfish when it comes to sex, to think only women withhold sex from men is ludicrous. Imagine a man who doesn't want to go down on his girl or kiss her after she gives him a blowjob - is that fair?" Obviously the answer would be no, for the same reason that the linked poster can't fathom how withholding sex from her man is "wrong" if she doesn't like it.

What I'm getting at is no one is arguing with your viewpoint, it's true as well. But your comment doesn't spur much relevant discussion. Down votes, in theory, don't mean "I disagree" but "this doesn't add to this discussion."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it's cool in my book. The point here, and what you'll see very often in /r/deadbedrooms, is not that the low libido partner is not putting out, it's that they're not even trying to fix the situation, or even simply begin to acknowledge the fact.

I've read a lot of posts there, and the common theme in the cases where the situation was resolved or at least improved substantially was when the person acknowledged the issue and actively tries to do something about it.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The whole "roll over your wife after dinner for 3 minutes and then get back to sleep" is a bit outdated by now. However, the same goes for "lay back and think of England".

[–]JustMadeYouYawn 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Another title of this thread should be: husband shocked that the woman he married doesn't want to give him blowjobs. This is TRP? This is where we have real talk right? So how about we do some real talk and talk about how illogical so many idiot men are. For all this talk about how women are illogical and how women are incapable of xyz, why do we see the same unending pattern of idiotic men getting themselves into shitty situations with women?

If a blowjob is so important to this guy, why not wait to marry the girl he cheated with rather than the wife he ended up marrying? There are no shortage of girls who loves the cock out there, what kind of a worthless sack of dirt and sorry excuse for a man would settle for something that he's clearly unwilling to settle for? And this goes for all the other sob stories out there of guys getting screwed over by their wives.

Why does no one talk about how dumb Kobe was to marry a girl he filmed a fucking rap video with? Even his parents were STRONGLY against the marriage. But Kobe was making excuses the same way girls make excuses for accidentally cheating on their bfs because they got drunk or "things just happened". He put tens of millions or even hundreds of millions of dollars in jeopardy for that.

The same deal with Tiger Woods. Arnold. Etc. Why is it that we always talk about how shitty the women are but we don't talk about how idiotic the men are? This ain't rocket science. When you marry someone, you're risking your assets. When you marry someone, you're usually agreeing to enter a monogamous relationship, and cheating will very likely result in divorce which means losing your assets. If you don't want to risk your assets, or if you don't know yourself well enough to trust that you can keep your dick out of other vaginas, then don't get married. Yet every time one of these rich idiots get screwed by their wives, we hear about how they are the victim of gold diggers. Oh please, they didn't put a gun next to your head. We don't let girls get away with this excuse for cheating but we let these guys get away with excuses for signing a piece of paper.

And when you are in a relationship, I think there's pretty strong signals of what you can expect from your partner. Yes, people don't change, but a lot of the change is superficial, and the real character traits of a person largely stays the same. Wasn't there a stickied thread about how women aren't capable of change recently? So what excuse do you have? And please, don't give me that BS about women faking enthusiasm for blowjobs to trick you into marriage. When you're getting a blowjob and when you're fucking, it is VERY obvious how enthusiastic they are. If you settle for a girl that just ain't that enthused to be touching your dick, then it's your own fault you put a ring on her. And if her sex drive does change, make sure it's not related to that 30 pounds you gained.

Here's what it really boils down to for a lot of guys. They find a girl that tolerates touching their dick. Then they cling on to that girl making all sorts of internal excuses for the red flags he's seeing. Then one day, he finds himself in a stale marriage with a woman he doesn't really understand, trust, or even love. The marriage sucks the souls out of both people until someone cheats or goes for a divorce. And then, the "victim" of this story focuses purely on the act of cheating without taking any responsibilities for getting themselves into this situation. Instead, they pin all the blame on the opposite sex. The women talk about how men are pigs and how their husbands got caught cheating. The men talk about how women are soulless gold diggers that trick men into marriage. I just see a pool of pathetic morons.

[–]RedPillScare 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Ladies, take care of that man. If you don't, some other woman will."

[–]ModAerobus 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

my husband created on me, I gave him a month to find a new place to live, now I don't want him to go

Wow. Women can't even make up their minds if they are mad at their husbands or not.

In the last 3 weeks I have a different person who looks like my husband but she didn't act like it. He had been going to therapy every week, church on Sundays, he cooks dinner (he rarely cooked anything more than Mac and cheese for the kids). HE WRITES ME POETRY!!!!

And the husband has ruined the marriage not by him getting a BJ, but by becoming super beta. If he had maintained frame and applied dread game, she would be all over him.

[–]1iluminatiNYC 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Personally, dude was dead wrong for cheating. It's just not my thing. Once you take those vows, unless you divorce, you're committed.

Then again, I say that as someone who filed papers on a Tuesday and may or may not have gotten a car blowjob that Saturday. You do the math. :)

While I don't agree with the guy's final resolution, I do understand his frustration. Dude spent 12 years going down on the woman, and homegirl didn't bother to reciprocate in any way? I've been with women who are anti-blowjob, but trust me when I say I made sure I saw what them hands do, if you get my drift. The fact that she just laid there and thought of England for 12 years, and dude finally manned up and made some attempt to get something different makes me sad. Screw prostitution. Gimme 48 hours lead time, and I can have some friends give him Prince's "Darling Nikki" -- the Live Action Edition.

I'm not going to tell them to divorce or not. I will say that dude needs to grow a serious backbone. 12 years of no reciprocation at all? My heart bleeds for him, even if he is a cheater.

[–]bertstare10 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm usually very against cheating but in this instance, not at all.

[–]vicious_armbar 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Other then cheating or divorce which means he basically hands over everything to her, including the kids & most of his future income; what would you suggest? Yeah I know "dread game". Which will either work or lead to divorce.

Dread game is an acceptable solution when you're not married, or don't have a kid together. In which case the cost of failure isn't catastrophic. But when you're locked down, looking at losing everything including a loving relationship with your children; and possibly being thrown in the slammer when an unreasonable judge hits you with monthly payments you can't make; then things look a lot different. If you're married and unhappy with your sex life because your wife turned into a prude, then cheating until your kids are 18 is the logical choice.

Enjoy the honeymoon period of your marriage while it lasts. Keep in mind that you've just handed your significant other a button which she can push at any time to bankrupt you. Once you have kids with her it turns into a button she can push which will financially destroy you and possibly ruin your life for the foreseeable future.

Choices like that don't occur in a vacuum, they have significant effects on the power dynamics of a relationship. There are of course exceptions. Women who are either naturally submissive, or are submissive for religious or cultural reasons. I hope you married one of those exceptions. You'll find out whether or not you did in a year or two. Personally I don't see any reason why a man should get married other then raising children in a nuclear family. Even then it's a very high price to pay in order to have children.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"In the last 3 weeks I have a different person who looks like my husband but she didn't act like it. He had been going to therapy every week, church on Sundays, he cooks dinner (he rarely cooked anything more than Mac and cheese for the kids). HE WRITES ME POETRY!!!! We talk at night, and play games with the kids almost nightly, and he never had his phone out when he's home."

Wait a second...he became the man/father of her dreams and all he needed was a blowjob? "But I don't like giving blowjobs because they don't do anything for ME." Well...look at how much it would do for you if you thought about him in bed once in a while.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey I was just told in another thread that bj's aren't sex and therefore he wasn't cheating! I should send her the link to that.

[–]bukkake_news 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

lmao at this idiot cunt she's lucky her husband is a moron a reasonable man would be paying a beautiful young call-girl $200-$300 a week to blow him every Monday and Thursday.

[–]1rlh1271 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah paying for sex is super RP...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It does my heart good to see that the comments where as others have pointed out, surprisingly reasonable, as much as I condone cheating in both sexes from what OP said she gave him no choice.

Also OP points out further on in the thread that her husband has started working out and getting fitter and how it's attractive, once again women would rather share.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't believe you're getting upvotes on this comment. It's creepily sexually entitled. She has a right to make her own sexual choices without justifying them to you, and pressuring women to do something sexually that they aren't comfortable with, for whatever reason, is really disturbing, as is your assumption that men have an absolute right to everything they want sexually.

Welcome to the new generation of feminist women. It's all ME ME ME. The idea that they should be beholden to any obligations is a crime against humanity. That it should be demanded that they make some concessions in a marriage to satisfy their husband is worse than any human transgression imaginable.

And one wonders why men are loathe to marry today.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Tbh it sounds like this guy did what he did almost out of spite because of his wife. I can't really get behind him as a result. While her unwillingness to give her husband a bj because 'it does nothing for her' is fucking retarded, I won't get behind a cheater that cheats out of spite. In the words of Patrice o'neal, if you're going to cheat do it righteous. Don't cheat because of your bitch, cheat cause you want some strange. Do it for you and not because of her. Bitches cheat out of spite, men shouldn't.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Meh, doesn't justify it. If he wants a bj, he should divorce rather than cheat.

Oh wait, he's a guy. Carry on then. Adultery, while bad is better than divorce rape.

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