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Man accidentally "rapes" his girlfriend

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Title Man accidentally "rapes" his girlfriend
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Date June 25, 2014 2:36 PM UTC
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[–]Modredpillschool 80 points81 points82 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Rape or not, one thing's for sure: that girl is mentally a child. Look at all the tell tale signs here:

  1. She doesn't actually set boundaries, instead she works hard to ensure there are blurry lines, and then entices him to cross them.
  2. She gets instantly "upset" when he does what he thinks she's been trying to get him to do.
  3. She does not actually resist. She knows full well if she just gets out of bed and says "no, I really mean it." that he'll stop. She does no such thing. She does not feel responsible for removing herself from the situation. (and why should she? Legally she's in the right no matter what happens. Everything is rape, you know).
  4. She's now playing drama queen and keeping him hanging, wondering what's going to happen. She knows she controls the situation and she's playing it.
  5. She refuses to communicate now, as an adult, hiding behind the guise that this was actually a traumatic experience. Hint: unless you grew up in fucking pony land where you shit rainbows and all your food is pre-chewed, this experience was not traumatic.

The idea that we should coddle women for having to deal with every day situations that are simply not that big of a deal is fuckign stupid as fuck. You know, I had a girl give me a blow job and try to straddle me when I wasn't in the mood. I told her, no, not tonight, not in the mood. She went for it anyway. I didn't have the energy to stop her, nor the gumption to deal with the argument that would ensue afterwards, so I just let her do her thing. It was over in 20 minutes and I was able to sleep. Am I now traumatized? I would be it I was told that I'm a special fucking snowflake that has no need to lift a finger for the universe to bend to my will. I would be traumatized if I believed that the action of putting her mouth on my dick would somehow cause more damage than murder itself.

But I don't believe those things because it's stupid as shit. This girl is stupid, manipulative, and childish.

As they tend to be, in my experience.

Avoid her like the plague.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think she is only upset at him because he became all regretful and apologetic afterwards. If you give off a vibe that you did something wrong, the girl will pick up on it and feel the same way. If he just said my bad and left it at that, it would have probably been all good.

[–]donit 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I was cringing at all the apologizing he's doing. Her respect for him is hemorrhaging badly with his constant beta-begging and badgering, while he is at the same time drowning her in suggestive/imposed negativity. If he doesn't STFU, it will very quickly become a self-fulfilling prophesy, which will end the relationship. And then he'll think it was because he raped her. It's the relationship version of accidentally swerving and then over-compensating by crossing into oncoming traffic.

[–]frag95 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd be more worried about her sounding the alarm and telling everyone he raped her just because she felt she didn't get the response she wanted. That would ruin his life, but why would she care...

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

she's 20.

that's pretty much still a child.

[–]Ferinex 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No? It's not. The age of majority almost everywhere in the Western world is 18. She is perfectly capable of making adult decisions by 18, and others are not responsible for her even if she isn't.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

do you know a lot of 20 year olds? You'd be surprised how mentally immature most of them are. Now that's not an excuse, but it seems that in our current generation, the mental age of many people seems to have halted in growth. I even know many 30 years olds that act like they're still in college.

My point is basically that i'm not surprised 20 year olds act like children, especially in this day and age.

[–]Ferinex 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The way you said it in your first post makes it sound as if you are making an excuse for her childish behavior. There is no excuse. She is an adult and can reasonably be expected to act like one by the age of 20.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 36 points37 points38 points 12 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link

What? She tells him she likes rough sex. She tells him "no" and moans with passion. She tells him after it was "hot" and she "loved it." THEN she takes off her clothes and gets in bed, calls her BF into the room, starts making out, starts moaning exactly like before and is now claiming rape?

Shit Test Failed.

But get a safe word dude.

[+]Laur-Ent -15 points-14 points-13 points 12 years ago* (33 children) | Copy Link

It wasn't a sequence of events like that, it was an isolated event. On a day when she said she was tired and off, he offered her a place to rest and promised they wouldn't have sex. She stripped off probably because she didn't want to sleep in her clothes.

Lines were blurred and mistakes were made. She probably should have tried harder to stop him but he also should have made certain that she was actually into it. NO is NO even when her body might be saying yes. That is the law. He legally raped her. Even if she made no big effort to stop him. She might have felt pressured but either way she always maintained that she never wanted it. Before, during and after.

As far as rape goes it's not as bad as it could have been but that doesn't mean it wasn't rape. I can already tell this is not going to be a popular opinion but I don't give a shit because it's the truth.

edit: IT DOESN'T MATTER. SHE NEVER CONSENTED BUT HE CONTINUED TO HAVE SEX WITH HER ANYWAY. No matter how you try to explain it, that's straight up rape.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

Do you even know how hard it is to change positions with an unwilling female?

I had a GF many, many years ago who was a total sloot- anal, ass-to-mouth, whatever I wanted. She loved to wrestle and have me pin her down and screw her. It is damn near impossible to get a girl down like that who is struggling and changing positions several times during the act is definitely not on the menu.

[+]Laur-Ent -15 points-14 points-13 points 12 years ago* (23 children) | Copy Link

If a girl feels pressured to please the guy or is afraid to really stand up for herself, it's not hard to make her do what you want. (I am not condoning that in the slightest so you can all calm down now.) So yeah it probably wasn't that difficult to have her change positions especially if she was tired and confused.

What happened was really unfortunate for both of them. Possibly even more unfortunate for the guy if he gets in trouble for this. He was stupid and naive and he should have known better, but that doesn't mean he's not guilty of rape.

[–]TheOpposingView 10 points10 points10 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You have a fucking pathetic view of women.

[+]Laur-Ent -14 points-13 points-12 points 12 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

I am a woman. I'm just speaking the truth. I've been in an abusive relationship before so I know what it's like to be pressured into sex and it's horrible. I don't give a shit about what you think of me I just felt the need to speak up for this girl. All your comments about her are fucking nasty and if you think there's nothing wrong with that you're the pathetic ones here, not me.

[–]MattR1302 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Do you realize his point? For you to conclude this woman was raped you'd have to assume she is utterly powerless in very sense. Children have stronger wills than this. You honestly believe she was incapable of an ounce of effort to say something different, do something different, behave differently enough for him to know the difference?

Is "pressuring" someone rape? Is encouraging someone rape?

You should be providing a clear explanation of why or how this could be rape. You declared it.

[+]Laur-Ent -11 points-10 points-9 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It is rape because it just is. All it comes down to is the fact that she said no (repeatedly, after saying she was sick/tired) and he did it anyway.

She said no. He did it anyway. That is rape in every sense.

It doesn't matter how you try to explain it or how strongly you believe this woman was in the wrong. That is rape and any cop, lawyer, or judge would agree. That's the law. That's the definition of rape. You might think that's unfortunate or unfair but that's just how it is.

[–]Bbyybbbaby 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

. If it was rape then you do everything possible to stop it. You don't lie there and moan you scream for help. You don't stand up after and say you raped me. You run like all hell to escape your rapist.

She blurred the lines so she could play a game with him and have absolute power in the relationship.

When you have been actually violated you don't even want to stay anywhere near your rapist nor have contact.

She was pressured? Please she has 2 legs and a mouth. If she doesn't want to have sex get up walk out and say a direct "no I do not want to have sex" you don't stay and finish the act then turn to him and say you raped me.

That is how a defense attorney will spin it and she will no longer be a victim. Just another power play from a woman trying to get even with a guy

When it comes down to it she is not acting like a rape victim she is acting like its a game.

[+]Laur-Ent -7 points-6 points-5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You don't know what you're talking about. Sorry. There are different forms of rape and if you think every case is the same, straight forward type of deal then you're being very naive.

[–]Bbyybbbaby3 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Actually I do have some understanding of it.

I counseled rape victims through rape crisis centers for 3 years. I am aware of how the process works.

I am not naive in fact I see how a defense attorney would play this. He would rip the story to shreds in court creating reasonable doubt.

Those women freeze do not say you raped me to their rapist in such a calm manner. They break down or escape into another world

False accusations make it harder for real victims to come forwards it also puts a major strain on the resources that should be for real victims.

Whilst she may have been pressured, her prior history will be brought into play.

Letter of the law she said no. However the authorities might not be so willing to prosecute on this, it's a weak case with he said she said and a lot of reasonable doubt. It won't however stop this girl from trying him in the court of public opinion and dragging his name through the mud.

[–]Modified_Hackware1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Did you not read? It's rape because it just is. Unbefuckingleivable.

It's obvious what cunty game this girl played, he dropped frame, revulsion turned manipulation for fucking a beta ensues. Now victimhood and maybe a leisurely float towards a rape accusation in public.

And this fucking guy believes in it.

[–]Pushnikov 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"It is rape because it just is".

Female logic wins everyone. Case closed.

[–]Laur-Ent 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice job turning my gender into an issue here. That's not "female logic" it's just logic, which you would understand if you actually read and comprehended the rest of my comment.

[–]migukin3 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If your only argument is that legally it would be called rape, then yes, you are correct. But when you're stressing that it IS rape, that's where your opinion gets unpopular. This is a girl playing her boy because she knows she can.

Women get so pissed about men oppressing women. WOMEN oppress women. For every real rape there's a hundred bullshit manufactured ones like this and it's all a result of women gaming the system.

[–]TheOpposingView 3 points3 points3 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Grow a back bone and stop ruining lives because you're embarrassed about sticking up for yourself.

[+]Laur-Ent -9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What? That literally makes no sense.

[–]TheOpposingView3 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Stop crying rape because you were too worried about if he'd still like you or not.

[+]Laur-Ent -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What are you even talking about?

[–]TheOpposingView1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You stood up for the girl and equated yourself to her you illiterate little child. Jesus what a fucking retard.

[–]Laur-Ent0 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Why are you acting this way? I don't understand what I did to deserve that kind of response. At least I'm arguing my point with dignity.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for telling us of your experience but that is not this case we are discussing. There is no evidence this BF is "abusive."

You state you know how it feels to be "pressured into sex" and I am interested. How does it feel? I "pressure" my wife all the time into having sex. Sorry, that's the way it is in most healthy relationships. "Pressure" becomes a problem only when there is no moral agency to resist said pressure. We are saying women need to take agency for their actions and not get "pressured" only to later cry "rape" (I know, not your case but it is all to common).

I have seen very little that is "nasty" on this thread either. Your previous experiences apparently have you running on adrenalin and hamster juice. Calm down and try logic. I know what the guys are going to say about that but it works with my wife.

I would seriously ask you to try reading the sidebar materials with an open mind before you assume we are all "pathetic" (Many of us are, just like everywhere but not all M'lady.

[–]Laur-Ent -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Did I say he was abusive? No I didn't.

There's a difference between pressuring your wife into sex and pressuring your girlfriend who you've only been sexually active with for a matter of weeks. You don't have the same trust and understanding and probably aren't comfortable enough yet to know what might happen if you actively had to try and stop unwanted advances. You don't know what she might have experienced in the past and you don't know what was going on inside her head.

When I was pressured into sex I stood my ground. But I wasn't to know that the guy was already drunk enough and angry enough that he didn't actually care whether or not I said yes. When I realized this I went into survival mode and i did what I had to do to protect myself and stop things from escalating, so I just did what he wanted. That was the only thing I could do to stop myself from getting hurt or killed. Not that it really matters but I was 13 and he was 19.

After I got out of that "relationship" I was left with this crippling fear of being in that situation again. Having that kind of mindset can cause woman to do things that most men wouldn't really understand. Such as being weak when it comes to unwanted advances and therefore not being able to stand up for yourself out of a (usually irrational) fear of being treated that way again. Doing what you have to do to protect yourself and stop the guy from growing violent. EVEN IF the guy is totally trustworthy, the girl can still be in that mindset. That mindset is not an easy thing to get out of.

Now I'm not saying this girl has a past like that. All I'm saying is there is always a possibly that she has a degree of that kind of fear caused by being manipulated or mistreated in the past.

But all that aside, he should have listened to her and been more careful. Having a safe word is vital. But no matter how you look at it, he technically did rape her. She never consented.

[–]natethegreattt 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you're basically saying he's abusive if you think he raped the girl, so i don't understand your point of view

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for your story and for the contribution and perspective you added to this discussion. We speak in generalities on this sub and there are ALWAYS exceptions to even the most AWALT (All Women are Like that) issues.

The Red Pill is about the rules of sexual attraction- being confident, putting yourself as the man first, and NOT putting the Goddess on a pedestal, generating attraction by strong, confident behaviors is the key. However, life is a balance and, as you remind us, "strong" may be good but overbearing power imbalances are bad.

The problem in this country is that stories like yours have moved the power balance entirely in the other direction. Most men today are supplicating man-boys trying to please their women and waiting for affirmative declarations before initiating sex- which happens to be a huge turn-off for most women so it is lose-lose.

As you say, safe words, care and consideration are the order of the day.

I hope you are able to get past your crippling fear and can appreciate now that the vast majority of men are not violent, especially with women. Even a hint of non-consent or unwanted aggression with a woman that you care about is cause for extreme distress as illustrated by the chump BF in this story. That is the normal reaction with normal men. Men want willing, passionate partners in love. Real violent rapists who pressure minors into having sex with them as you described are not men.

[–]Humankeg -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Don't know why the down votes. Legally he did rape her. I jsut hope for his sakes (he seems like TOO nice of a guy btw) she doesn't use this as black mail, or presses charges at all.

[–]Pushnikov 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No, Legally he didn't rape her because there is no jury saying he raped her. And even if he thinks he raped her, that doesn't mean he raped her. A verbal "no" does not make something rape. Saying it's rape, doesn't make it rape.

[–]Laur-Ent 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How exactly does a verbal "no" not make something rape? Non consensual sex is pretty much the definition of rape.

[–]Modified_Hackware 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Because she clearly defined that no doesn't mean no with no other indication to the contrary, why is this so hard to understand?

She could have ended it way before piv by saying.

I don't want to, I'm serious.

Edit: I tell you something as well, I've had three girls bring up to me or others that they werent sure they consented because drunk so maaaaaaaybe it was rape?

All three disappeared immediately when I told them I filmed the act, we'll never know either way but I am confident if he filmed this she wouldn't dream of bringing the R word up because it'd get laughed out of court.

[–]Laur-Ent -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I expected the downvotes. I mean this is TRP. But yeah you're right, he does seem like a pretty good guy and he clearly didn't understand what he was doing. I hope he can explain what happened to the girl and that they can sort it out without involving authorities.

[–]TheOpposingView3 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

This does not make it blatantly obvious to you that the "legal" definition of rape is now absurdly removed from the actual act of rape?

You just like having the rape card to play when necessary. You are fucking vile and evil.

[–]Laur-Ent -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean yeah technically the guy did rape her but that doesn't mean that he deserves to go to prison. Only on the grounds that he didn't actively try to rape her and didn't have any bad intentions (apparently). I'm only saying he doesn't deserve to go to prison because that's not going to help the situation. He's not dangerous and he's most likely never going to do that again. It was just a really unfortunate situation. And it can probably be sorted out without legal intervention.

[–]sway_usa 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Again, you are just trying to make sure that women always have a chance to play victim. Women thrive on "technicality" because they don't understand context. You can't say he "raped" her and DOESN'T deserve to go to prison. Either he did, and he's a piece of shit, or he didn't, and his girl is a power tripping asshole.

Spoiler alert: it's the latter.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy safe-word batman.

I can understand a girl 'freezing up' as they call it with some stranger, but not with someone she's known for four months. She knew he wanted sex and gave it up willingly to be a good gf. He could have passed her shit test at the end by sticking by his stick, but he didn't. Now he's all apologizing and bending over for her which keeps her the center of attention. She will string that emotion along as long as she can. Dude could have had something decent but fucked it up.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Boyfriend charged for rape in . . . 10 . . . 9 . . . 8 . . . 7 . . .

[–]genericusername80 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It'll probably come in a few months when she "realizes" how traumatic the experience was (ie she finally gets bored of this guy) and decides she needs to protect other girls from him by reporting him to the police.

[–]zpatriarchy 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

don't ever act out a girl's rape fantasy.

[–]natethegreattt 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This should be a no brainer but a lot of men don't think of the consequences

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can but always take precautions.

  1. Establish a safe word. Stress the importance of it and remind her what it is before you start.
  2. Define all boundaries ahead of time.
  3. Have all discussions by text if possible to hamster proof it.
  4. Keep your frame afterwards. Don't apologize and act like a weak loser afterwards.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 48 points49 points50 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

If this was rape, why was she not flailing like a wild banshee and screaming bloody murder, trying to get a neighbor's attention? Why did she not run out of the house and call 911 to report this "crime"? Sounds to me like nothing more than a simple bitch who's taking her college freshman women's lib classes a little too seriously.

[–]RU_Crazy 23 points24 points25 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Don't you know? The mental oppression that occurs when a woman is being raped leaves her entirely helpless. This man needs to be locked in jail for eternity.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]PM_ME_YOUR_CHESTHAMS 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Women don't have to scream for help, or try to run anymore. They are entitled to stay wherever they are and say "no" and if the guy doesn't stop it's automatically rape.

[–]Menadian -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Or rape if he stops and she didn't mean it

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_CHESTHAMS 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Easier to just stay away from rape fantasies!

[–]myhipsi 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She says things like "I don't care" and "It's done, you already did it."

Just sounds to me like she's a crazy manipulative bitch. It's like that's what she was aiming for from the get go. It's like she wanted to fuck this inexperienced guy up mentally much like she already is.

[–]RU_Crazy 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It also sounds like since he was being an apologetic "pussy" about it, rather than being firm and sticking to the point about it being her fantasy, her hamster wheel started turning and it put her on the offensive in order to rationalize the situation: "Its your fault not mine"

[–]sting129 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

that wouldn't have gone over well.

  • GF - you raped me
  • OP - yeah right, this was your fantasy
  • GF - oh yeah? let's see what the cops have to say

then OP is screwed. ultimately, he was pretty stupid to jump into this without establishing a safe word. I hope he doesn't get railed by the college or police.

[–]RU_Crazy 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea the safe word is a necessity in such a situation but he's an inexperienced 19 year old who doesn't know any better.

I was mostly referring to where he says he keeps bringing it up and apologizing. As he continues to do that he rationalizes her behavior. That being said I hear you on the potentially worse outcome of being reported for rape.

In my experience if I stand firm and explain myself in a rational way I will usually "win out" if my girl is being irrational. But then again she's never accused me of rape.

[–]Algermas 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The solution to this is very simple, you don't play their diseased game. If she wants to act out her rape fantasy book her a flight to Juárez. If you hear a no you pull out and kick her out of your house.

[–]thisisntjet 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Safe word, man. Always have a safe word.

[–]steveob42 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I like "Yes" for a safeword...

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm a fan of the red yellow green system. I will whisper "check" every now and then amd she has to answer with a color. But of course she can say red at any time to stop everything.

[–]culofiesta 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree but that doesn't really matter;

"I was so traumatized I couldn't remember the safe word"

or

"We never had a safe word that's a lie"

Either way- found guilty of rape, sentenced to prison.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Always confirm your safe word via text beforehand. Also make her say it right before you start (second one can be hamstered away, of course, but not the first)

[–]genericusername80 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Safe words are seriously moot. "Confirming via text" is meaningless. None of this would hold up in court or protect you from a rape charge being filed if she decides to push it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, shit I guess you're right at the end of the day. I suppose it's like wearing a helmet when skydiving. If you're gonna go for it, at least protect what you can.

[–]DjBottleservice 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bitch, pineapples. Get in the car.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The difference, to a hamster, between being raped and ravaged is only the man doing it. Women want to be forcefully taken by a strong alpha (explains the bean flicking to 50 shades). They don't want to be forcefully taken by a beta bitch that apologizes after.

[–]_DiscoNinja_ 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm no expert, but Dr. Drew would say that chick was raped at a young age. That's a sketchy pond to go dick fishing in.

[–]CaptainArabella 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why every couple looking to do BDSM or a rape roleplay NEEDS a safeword.

[–]Bbyybbbaby 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She is essentially setting this guy up. If he leaves or doesn't do what she wants she can just play the game of "you raped me" and go to the cops to punish him or lord it over him.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

After a bitter argument with my wife about this I understand this dynamic a lot better. Women WANT to be pressured and yah, even "forced" BY MEN TO WHOM THEY ARE ATTRACTED. Women think being "forced" by a man to whom they are not attracted is the most awful thing in the entire world. Even being pressured by such a beta toe jam stub is "creepy" and awful.

The GF no doubt FEEEEELLLZZ like she was pressured so she throws her shit test. She WANTS the BF to reassure her, tell her it is fine, be a man, ignore, deflect, in short PASS the damn test. He should have taken charge and told her this is what we are going to do to make sure this doesn't happen again dearest but you are such a fine thing I don't know how I can keep my hands off you" and then dropped it.

He didn't. What happened? Her ATTRACTION FOR HIM DROPS!! Now the earlier 'coerced' sex act becomes "creepy" and therefore rape.

TLDR: Maintain frame.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As some hamsters said in a other post: there's no rape fantasy, there's ravaging fantasies.

It's the standard rile of be attractive and don't be unattractive. The only difference between the two scenes are the men doing it to her.

[–]Burner1701 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think it's only that she has to find him attractive, I think she has to really trust him too. Genuine fear is not conducive to enjoying rough sex play.

[–]Turkeytom861 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

"We changed positions three times." Sounds like a horrific rape, indeed.

What the actual fuck. I just feel bad for him if she decides to go to the cops with her story, assuming he ever wises up and decides to leave her absolutely batshit crazy ass.

[–]JIPIDIAZ -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You shouldn't be calling this "thing" a man, OP.

[–]Pinging -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm really sorry, or maybe it's because i'm really chill, but like if you were being raped, wouldn't you say something like "no really i don't what to have sex right now" or "dude im being serious like i don't feel good" in a normal voice? It's kind of what would happen if this happened to me honestly.

[–]genericusername80 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rape charges incoming in a few months, whenever she realizes that she's done with this guy and would rather be a victim than be with him.

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