Why Feminism Destroys Nations

Gardrothard · 2016-08-11T11:55:42+00:00

Most of women's blogs are their hamsters working hard.

-Bunch of blogs of women saying how happy they are because they choose not to have kids, rationalizing focusing on a career, their divorces, and single motherhood. -I have yet to see a blog/book of a woman justifying getting married, caring for her children and so on.

The conclusion is pretty clear.

Before feminism: Man works, woman takes care of the family. This leaves her enough time to do hobbies, charity work, read and anything else she wants. Their kids are able to grow into normal and good people who will continue to contribute to society because they have a healthy environment. A man is able to support a whole family without being a CEO or something similar.

After feminism: Both parents are working 40+ hours a week just to make the ends meet. Children are left on their own and anyone can put any ideas they want into their heads because parents just don't have the energy to focus on that too. Women are unable to focus on any charity work, hobbies or any pleasure activities because they barely have time as it is.

The end result? Now two people work a lot more and they end up having less money to spend. They also have less time to focus on children and many of them end up being fucked up. If there was someone at home who would read books to them, play with them, teach them things instead of letting children just stare at their phones and computers all day mindlessly browsing social networks maybe the autism, attention deficit disorders, depression and other things wouldn't be on the rise. General health is going down because nobody has time to cook proper meals and take time to relax or do some physical activities. And this is all assuming you end up having a family...

But that isn't surprising at all, in fact it just takes a little bit of brain to see that would be the result of doubling the work force. If men give commitment in order to get sex, and women give sex in turn for commitment everything works. If women start giving away sex to anyone then the price of sex goes down - therefore the hookup culture. Again, you didn't have to be a rocket scientist to predict that.

But I don't care much about them, if they want to eliminate themselves from gene pool and leave me with better options - good for them, I sure don't mind that. The thing that worries me is that the game has completely changed, and that the old strategies women used aren't optimal anymore. Withholding sex seems like a good strategy, but when men have lost faith in commitment and have the option of getting laid whenever they want it's far from optimal.

I agree with RPW, but there are many problems with this strategy, in fact TRP and RPW strategies are the complete opposites and aren't at all compatible, they don't work together as well as they could. RPW strategy says that woman should withhold sex because otherwise she might end up as a plate. On the other hand, TRP man would next this girl right away, because from his perspective it will look like friend-zoning. Again, staying at home to take care of the family these days can be very easily misinterpreted as gold digging. On one side, it's preferable for man to provide and leave woman an option of caring for children and make sure they grow up well, on the other side this arrangement is to risky because of divorce rape... And so on.

The problem here lies in the fact that RPW and TRP are strategies that are based on the behavior of general population, a reaction to the behavior of most people. On the other hand, red pill men seem to be looking for red pill women and vice versa. I think that both strategies need to reconsider themselves, to adjust themselves so they'd suit those who are their focus group. Don't get me wrong, both strategies are good and they work, I'm just saying that they are still far from optimal ones, and need some fixing. So far they are "reaction" strategies, and I think that it's time to consider adding "action" rules too.

PantheraTigris95 · 2016-08-10T19:05:06+00:00

I really like the paragraph under "Feminism creates a class of women not worth protecting".

It should follow that the decision to give up your femininity also means you give up the rights/privileges you enjoy as a female. Trying to have the perceived 'best of both worlds' doesn't work for the individual or society.

Rommel0502 · 2016-08-10T16:32:01+00:00

IMO feminism is just another tool used by governments to get its populace dependent upon it rather than themselves. You keep people dependent on a government, that ensures a good supply of vote buying and long term survival of the government itself.

Just look at the trends in the destruction of the family unit and the metaphorical castration of men since the 60s. As feminism and entitlements have risen, the family unit has suffered almost in lock step. Dont be deceived by political double talk - the fractured family unit is exactly what they want as it creates dependency on the government. Its been working.

Sawagurumi · 2016-08-11T00:01:26+00:00

I agree that TRP is just making the most of the decline, and does not actually solve the problem. The problem isn't just feminism either, although that is something that, when it arises, does so at the decline phase of a civilization, and hastens its end (http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf). Feminism is in its own 'axis of evil' with Social Justice and Cultural Marxism.

However, it is clear that government and big business are, and always have been, behind feminism. Without an outright revolution it is hard for any individual man to stand up to that kind of opposition. The real answer is to form a family and have children, but that is the very thing that feminists have successfully attacked (https://womenformen.org/2014/09/03/mallory-millet-sister-of-feminist-kate-millett-exposes-the-damage-left-in-feminisms-wake/ http://national.deseretnews.com/article/4535/us-marriage-rate-hits-new-low-and-may-continue-to-decline.html https://realtruth.org/news/070302-002-societylifestyles.html).

"who will protect these women? Or want to protect these women?" Who indeed, certainly not me, but I see feminism as women's problem. It is a biological fact that while women are very strongly own-sex biased, men are not - they are biased in favour of women (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15491274). How else could feminism make any headway at all when it is so clearly anti-male? How could women have got the vote when there were no female politicians to vote in favour of it? Even now they are in the minority, yet things like no-fault divorce and ever more draconian fem-centric laws like 'man-spreading', biased university entry and employment hiring (so-called 'positive' discrimination, aka discrimination) are introduced. Only by a majority of women being in opposition could this be reversed, and it is women in general that have lost value because of feminism, and made less happy (http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969). As this article says (https://voxday.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/the-bitter-harvest-of-feminism.html), so far it has been men and children that have born the cost of feminism; it is only just that women now shoulder the cost, don't you think? The marriage strike is part of that, as is an increasing disenchantment with women generally, evidenced by the growing manosphere.

As for "Some feminist goals like the punishment of rape and domestic violence, along with allowing women to pursue education and physical fitness are good for society." I would have to take issue. Rape and domestic violence was always punished, but it was done more justly before feminists got involved. In fact, nearly every good thing that feminism takes credit for was not achieved by feminism. For example, businesses wanted women in the workforce because it kept labour rates down (for the same reason businesses are all for immigration now). In the UK, for example, most of the equality laws were introduced in the 1960s, before Kate Millet and Germaine Greer published their books which really kicked off second wave. As for education, that is all very well when society is rich enough to pay for half the population spending years getting useless degrees rather than having a family, and not once feminists start destroying education for everyone (http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/06/oxfords-new-feminist-hit-squad/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfzUG70nN6k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLvlB7l9rok http://www.angryharry.com/Flooded-By-False-Rape-Allegations.htm http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/06/05/mattress-girl-emma-sulkowicz-just-released-a-sex-tape-heres-my-review/). At this point, I have concluded that co-education has been a failure, and the sexes should be separated at all levels if it is to be workable again.

But, as Glubb points out, civilizations in decline never seem to wake up to the obvious and do what they need to do (Cf Byzantine Empire). I don't see feminism going away until society collapses, and all these strong, independent womyn who 'don't need no man' suddenly find that they do.

(as an aside, top marks to the site for the John William Waterhouse paintings)

rproller · 2016-08-10T16:56:43+00:00

Sweden comes to mind

The last video isn't actually real, but the misandry is quite prevalent.

Highly_Tingled · 2016-08-10T22:18:51+00:00

Thank you OP and RPW for embracing the hypocrisy and inconvenient truths of modern day feminism. I knew there had to be some women out there who get it :) . You have ignited a bit of hope in me , for now ......

Sy87 · 2016-08-10T16:45:35+00:00

I like the idea of a responsibility/rights solution. That's why I'm pro women in the army. It's catching up on the responsibility that we have been missing. (Actually I'm pro mandatory military service for everyone, for just a ton of reasons.) If a woman works, pay half the damn dinner bill. Tit for tat, that's the societal change we need.

Edit: Misspelling

francinerose · 2016-08-11T17:51:30+00:00

Feminist want their cake and eat it too

Demand to work and have paid maternity leave

Which is forcing others to pay for the patriarchy that women should be at home to take care of the child

HeatseekingLogicBomb · 2016-08-13T00:08:26+00:00

This is kind of like, figuring out the maximum way to loot a store while a crime riot is going on, instead of stopping the riot.

No argument here in the sense of, it's not a concerted "positive solution" effort. But it never will be. You described it accurately, it's an adaptation strategy discussion. So, TRP doesn't recommend anything. It just says how to go about getting what it is you want. Following the logic of men being less committed, more men being TRP and MGTOW, things eventually change course, but not in a positive fashion (economic collapse). And we've already seen some close calls. Granted economics is far more complex than that, or at least, the recession waves are, but it will only be harder to foster recovery from such waves as we go along.

Also granted, "feminism burning it's host out", is possible in another fashion... men not caring to defend the society anymore, like you said. Which is where Europe is at. But you basically covered these things. Nice article.

I will point out, as some others have said, "it used to be that men worked and provided, now both have to". That isn't strictly Feminism's fault. That's economics as well, and the devaluation of currency.

TranshumanWarrior · 2016-08-31T07:44:55+00:00

immigration is a tool with which to improve the already existing society, not to annihilate it.

I think the real threat from modern feminism is declining fertility. Western civilisation is voluntarily going extinct, being replaced by immigrants from increasingly less developed countries.

I like the idea of women having power and freedom and equal rights, it's a shame we can't find a way to pair that with higher fertility, happier families and less divorce and separation.

In an ideal world, both women and men get the most they possibly can out of life. I don't think this necessarily implies a patriarchy, but I do think that we have seen enough to learn that the current status quo is not the best solution. Aggressively pushing for women to be as career focused as men is making women sad and killing our society.

redesignfeelings · 2016-08-11T06:16:51+00:00

Feminism Was Created To Destabilize Society

tldr: Government could not TAX 50% of population before women's liberation

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Title	Why Feminism Destroys Nations
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Date	August 10, 2016 4:19 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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