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Are there any other male virgins here who are happy with their lives overall?

Class_Punk
January 17, 2017
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Title Are there any other male virgins here who are happy with their lives overall?
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Class_Punk
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Date January 17, 2017 2:38 PM UTC
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Comments

[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link

I was a virgin up until age 20 and was pretty unhappy before that. Once I had sex I didn't think it was such a big deal and it didn't bother me at all going through a seven year dry spell after that.

[–]TheWorldToCome5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm in a similar boat, all I could think about was sex as a teen till I got it and had a GF 16-18 yrs old, and then after that sex was just got old. Like watching a good movie for the 100th time, sure it's good but so repetitive and not that exciting anymore. So now, in the last 10 years I've had sex two times, and each time was just not into it, couldn't wait for it to be over so I could go back to playing video games or surfing the net. Couldn't care less if I ever have sex again.

In before low T, no.

[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, for me it was more like I think I had a negative association with sex because I had a bad breakup with the only person who I had had it with.

But I do think that being happy being a virgin and being happy with being a "born again virgin" are two completely different things. I was just way too curious about sex when I was a virgin and jealous of the people who had sexual experiences that I had not had. After having had a sexual relationship that curiosity and jealousy were completely gone.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Such a contrast to my experience. I've had sex at least 2000 times, and it keeps getting better and better, and I'm honestly excited for how good it'll be in another few years. I don't even try to imagine it, because I can't, it will be better than whatever I imagine.

How sex was the first 100 or even 1000 times for me was so much worse compared to now too.

I still love video games too.

The only thing possibly better than sex are some meditative experiences I've had.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wonder why sex gets boring to you, but other activities you enjoy don't?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't put any effort into being good I'm guessing.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same kinda thing here really. Once I had sex a few times it was no longer a big deal and I can easily do without it when I'm single and all that without any problems.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Interesting.

[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that's when I was in my otaku Japanophile phase. Going back to this topic, there are supposedly many happy virgins in their 20's in Japan, both male and female. Japanese social attitudes towards sex are an interesting topic to research.

[–]LSTW12343 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Japanese culture is really interesting in this regard. I read recently that the Japanese government carries out a nation-wide survey to measure attitudes about sex and marriage every 5 years due to the rapidly decreasing birth rate. There's a sizable portion of the population - male and female - who report no sexual experience at all and/or no interest in romantic relationships. No wonder Japan has such a thriving fetish scene/commercial sex industry.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me that I remember reading some study that South Korea sort of regards romantic relationships with less significance than in America, there is more distance in those relationships I suppose.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

Do you like war? Like, studying war history, playing war based games like shooters or strategies?

[–]SkrattGoddess3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the fuck? xD

[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Not especially. I don't mind shooting things in a video game, but it's usually secondary to the story to me. I tend to like RPG type games. I'm not sure what your point is.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

What sort of rpgs?

Do you wish the world was pacifist?

[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

What sort of rpgs?

All kinds. Turn-based, Action-based shooting RPGs, Action-based sword and sorcery RPGs, tactical RPGs, you name it. As long as it has a good story and includes character advancement I'll play it.

Do you wish the world was pacifist?

Yeah, sure. I enjoy some violence in video games but wouldn't want to live in a real life world where I'm having to worry about "kill or be killed" on a daily basis.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

What sort of rpgs?

All kinds. Turn-based, Action-based shooting RPGs, Action-based sword and sorcery RPGs, tactical RPGs, you name it. As long as it has a good story and includes character advancement I'll play it.

You ever wonder why you like rpgs so much? My favorite will probably always be Diablo 2.

Do you wish the world was pacifist?

Yeah, sure. I enjoy some violence in video games but wouldn't want to live in a real life world where I'm having to worry about "kill or be killed" on a daily basis.

Pacifists make me sick, its a very feminine value.

[–]dakruNeither5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Pacifists make me sick, its a very feminine value.

This really blows my mind. I don't care about violence in video games or movies, but actual war (especially as we saw it in the 20th century) is a breathtakingly horrible thing.

I can understand the criticism of pacifism as unrealistic, because when war is forced on you, you need to defend yourself. But that wasn't what you asked about. Your question was "Do you wish the world was pacifist?", and if that was the case then we wouldn't have war forced on us (or genocide or any kind of large-scale killings).

How in the world would that be a bad thing? Is some aversion to things you see as "feminine" enough to wish for people to lose their limbs or their lives?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

War is a great thing. True men need things to die and kill for.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Pacifism breeds weakness and complacency. Far less competition, little reason to really progress beyond good enough or sufficient.

With endless war you have endless competition and endless need for growth, excellence, achievement, being the best society possible in all ways possible that help survival, reproduction, power gain.

[–]ChanmanVXIIX2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

You're just a kid that has no idea of the true horrors of war.

E: nvm I read your comments about civ, you're but a joke.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why, because I didn't say anything about the brutality and horror of war? It's a given.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Pacifists make me sick, its a very feminine value.

Is this something you say for shock value/trolling or are you actually being serious?

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Quite serious.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5oidyu/are_there_any_other_male_virgins_here_who_are/dck8mdm

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Come on, what you're arguing for is capitalism not systemic violence against foreign and domestic factions. Wars are fought for commodities or ideals. It isn't weakness to achieve political objectives through non-violent means. It's called diplomacy, and it works out better for all sides in the end. Going over and tyrannically placing yourself in a position of power for selfish or unnecessary reasons (WWII is an example of a necessary reason) is downright ruthless.

When you have endless wars you have endless famine, political unrest, social inequality, and a decrease in quality of life for everyone below the very rich. Especially if you're on the losing side.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Come on, what you're arguing for is capitalism not systemic violence against foreign and domestic factions. Wars are fought for commodities or ideals. It isn't weakness to achieve political objectives through non-violent means. It's called diplomacy, and it works out better for all sides in the end. Going over and tyrannically placing yourself in a position of power for selfish or unnecessary reasons (WWII is an example of a necessary reason) is downright ruthless.

Tell that to the G20. Tell that to the numerous countries that played ball with the IMF only to be economically raped.

Diplomacy favors the current ruling class. You think the USA would engage in diplomacy if it did not benefit the USA?

But what country can stand up to our military or economic might?

No country had a choice. And so you see the 'diplomatic' result, every poor country either sells their citizens as cheap as shit labor or they stay decades behind technologically.

The beauty of capitalism is the ability to enslave and rape other countries through their voluntary submission without a troop on the ground.

Not that we don't have over 500 military bases overseas, and enough power from our aircraft carriers alone to destroy most non NATO or BRIC countries either.

You are right that our wars tend to be about ideals and not commodities, typically it's Democracy/Capitalism vs either Fascism or Communism.

When you have endless wars you have endless famine, political unrest, social inequality, and a decrease in quality of life for everyone below the very rich. Especially if you're on the losing side.

Don't be on the losing side.

We don't have serious war because there is no one to compete with us(except maybe Russia, China, India, but hardly). Peace through might, exactly as a tyranny operates. But of course we'll tell them we fight for freedom and democracy.

[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You ever wonder why you like rpgs so much?

I think that I enjoy RPGs because the story is usually complex enough that there's an important justification for the violence (for instance, invading demons or aliens that can't be reasoned with). I don't like the RPGs as much that are just about killing things to get treasure, though, which seems like unnecessary violence to me.

Pacifists make me sick, its a very feminine value.

I'm not a pacifist, but I am a self-preservationist. As for pacifism being feminine, I've always enjoyed reading stories of women who were willing to fight, but have been told that enjoying strong females is very "Blue Pill." I do think that even the most pacifist of women would resort to violence if it meant protecting her children, though.

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

NOT EVEN DEATH CAN SAVE YOU FROM ME

[–]theiamsamuraiRavishment Realist5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (39 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, I was happier when I was a virgin, my sexuality was kinda dormant and it was easy not to pay attention to it. Once women actually gave me attention and affection, I couldn't turn it off though.

A lot of men are predisposed to being addicted to women. I realize it's a spectrum, but overall men are much more sexual than women.

[–]EastussΰΌΌ ぀ β–€ΜΏ_β–€ΜΏ ༽぀2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Was the exact opposite for me. I was obsessed with stopping being a virgin. Once sex became normal in my life, it wasn't a big deal anymore and my libido fell a bit.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, all the people saying that losing your virginity is no big deal are the ones who had to have sex to actually realise that. It's not the sex, it's the not being a virgin and the not knowing what it's really like that matters.

[–]theiamsamuraiRavishment Realist0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean losing my virginity actually harmed me TBH.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In what way did it harm you?

[–]EastussΰΌΌ ぀ β–€ΜΏ_β–€ΜΏ ༽぀0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To me the problem was that I wanted sex to feel like a man, but to get sex I had to feel like I deserve sex.... In the end I never got sex when I really wanted or needed it. At my first time, I wasn't expecting much, and it wasn't fantastic, nothing surprised me and I didn't even got pleasure from it, my partner didn't believed me that I was a virgin because I knew what to do and wasn't overwhelmed by the thing nor stressed....

With time I learned to enjoy it, but the too long waiting for the first time kind of killed it for me. I wasn't even that old the first time I got it, it was later than the average, but not much.

[–]theiamsamuraiRavishment Realist0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I never really cared about losing my virginity. I always kinda considered myself a loner as a kid and came to accept it. I even romanticized the idea of being a loner (I thought the "lone wolf" movies and stuff were cool), exploring the world on my own, etc.

[–]Jaxx_Teller0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I think i may be slightly addicted to women. When one breaks it off with me, I scramble to find a replacement.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know guys and gals like that.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What do you think you miss the most when you don't have a woman?

[–]Jaxx_Teller1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The comfort knowing that you are going to have sex when you want to. And the comfort in knowing that the effort you put into being attractive to the opposite sex is validated.

For example, the place I work at has a substantial amount of attractive women in tight clothing. If I did not have a girlfriend, I would not be able to control myself. I would hit on every one of them. Even now with having a beautiful girlfriend, I find it extremely hard to contain and control myself around attractive women. Honestly, it drives me to the brink of insanity sometimes, and I start to question why I am in a relationship in the first place.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The comfort knowing that you are going to have sex when you want to. And the comfort in knowing that the effort you put into being attractive to the opposite sex is validated.

I do understand those desires. I miss women's warmth incredibly.

For example, the place I work at has a substantial amount of attractive women in tight clothing. If I did not have a girlfriend, I would not be able to control myself. I would hit on every one of them. Even now with having a beautiful girlfriend, I find it extremely hard to contain and control myself around attractive women. Honestly, it drives me to the brink of insanity sometimes, and I start to question why I am in a relationship in the first place.

Ha, such is the burden of being a high testosterone man. When I was in college in Texas during the summer, omfg. Even now when I drive by campus, it's almost stimulation overload.

What industry are you in where the women are wearing tight clothes all around you?

[–]Jaxx_Teller0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, the lack of a woman's warmth can create a gaping void. It shouldn't, and I suppose it is something that you must try and overcome to be content with oneself.

I work in a fitness center setting. It's gotten to the point where sometimes I don't even try to hide checking someone out anymore, or be sneaky about it, lol. I'll just do it overtly.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, the lack of a woman's warmth can create a gaping void. It shouldn't, and I suppose it is something that you must try and overcome to be content with oneself.

It should. It is man remembering his mother's warmth from when we were super young.

That void was created by our mothers for our future women to exploit.

But without that mother's warmth as a child a man gets fucked up too. Damned both ways.

I work in a fitness center setting. It's gotten to the point where sometimes I don't even try to hide checking someone out anymore, or be sneaky about it, lol. I'll just do it overtly.

Oh Jesus! Yeah I'd go nuts in a fitness environment. Don't feel shame for checking out women, fuck that form of oppression.

[–]BPremiumMeh0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thats me all day

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Relevant username?

[–]Jaxx_Teller0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I suppose it checks out lol. I only wish I was as badass as him.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I realize it's a spectrum, but overall men are much more sexual than women.

I think initially this is true. But I'm still skeptical about what exactly to believe when it comes for this idea.

[–]theiamsamuraiRavishment Realist0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Well, there's genetic variability. There's asexual guys (although there's less of them than of asexual women), there's guys with low sex drive where it's not a big deal, there's guys with an average sex drive, which is still much higher than women's because of testosterone, so it can be painful at times, then there's guys with super high sex drive that can go crazy and it can cause a lot of distress, and the highest drive guys are literally guys who descended from guys who could only reproduce by rape because they're so undesirable, so they literally can't hold themselves back. That's not really politically correct to say, but if we avoid talking about things like that, how do we help people who might become a danger to themselves or others in the future because of their genes?

[–]ZoidbergluverBluePurple Pill Woman2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

What? That's not how any of that works... you aren't more likely to be a rapist if you were conceived through rape. Do you have any evidence to support any of these ideas?

[–]theiamsamuraiRavishment Realist0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

As someone who's taken many biology courses, it's news to me that if an animal with specific traits reproduces, there's no correlation of those traits being passed on to their offspring. That must be taught in "special" biology classes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobiological_theories_of_rape

[–]ZoidbergluverBluePurple Pill Woman1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

"Such theories are highly controversial, as traditional theories do not consider rape a behavioral adaption"

Read your own source next time.

I majored in biology. It has to be a genetic thing to be passed down. Your logic doesn't make any sense, if I was eating an orange at the time of conception would my baby come out to only like oranges?

[–]theiamsamuraiRavishment Realist0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Why does rape happen in other animal species if it's not a behavior adaptation or a reproductive strategy?

If I was eating an orange at the time of conception, would my baby come out to only like oranges? It has to be a genetic thing, that's why the logic that the behavior of an infant looking at a caretaker for comfort or men wanting sex with women as opposed to other men is bad logic. It has to be a genetic thing and those aren't genetic things because they're behavior. That was sarcasm btw.

Must be why homosexuality having a genetic component is also bad logic, right?

[–]ZoidbergluverBluePurple Pill Woman2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How would you know if an animal is getting raped or if it's consenting? That makes no sense.

Homosexuality has a genetic component. It is not a learned behavior. Rape is not genetic. It is a one time choice someone can choose to make, much like eating an orange. Being gay is a long term thing that people cannot help.

I don't even understand where you were going with that terrible analogy....

How the hell can you think rape is genetic? It's a one time choice any individual can make at any time. Having curly hair is genetic; it's not a choice and it's with you forever. An activity that you choose to partake in is not genetic. This is not up for debate... what university did you take those bio courses at?

[–]theiamsamuraiRavishment Realist0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How would you know if an animal is getting raped or if it's consenting? That makes no sense.

Because it's fighting back and trying to escape or kill its assailant. Not that hard to tell.

https://www.rt.com/uk/248305-dna-rapist-gene-scientists/

https://cyber.harvard.edu/vaw00/theories_of_rape.html

Wonder why evolutionary biologists at harvard are considering it if it's so wrong. The wiki page said it's "controversial", just like it's controversial to say women's attraction is weaker than men's, but that doesn't make it wrong, especially when there's biologists that come to that conclusion from their studies.

[–]ZoidbergluverBluePurple Pill Woman1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Man... you need to learn how to cite/read your sources. I just skimmed it and it basically said it was completely inconclusive. There's no proof that rape is genetically linked. If you have a specific paragraph or like you want to cite, feel free.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you there on all counts. Even though I think a rational, positive culture could affect high sex drive men who can't get sex in such a way that they aren't a threat to society, while also not dehumanizing them.

But as far as women, what about the idea that women tie emotion more to sex? What I wonder is, would having a deep emotional connection with a woman (that's not the type that causes her to lose attraction and ditch your ass before you even knew what was happening), cause her to want sex more frequently at all stages of her life (with aging dropping that to some degree)?

[–]neofauPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Looking back on it in high school I had no desire for sex. It was only until my 2nd year when girls started showing me interest (and subsequently trolling me and my time) did I gain an interest.

[–]ZoidbergluverBluePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

How did they troll you?

[–]neofauPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

They pulled a #WasteHisTime.

[–]ZoidbergluverBluePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

That's a joke meme? Haha I'm serious, how did they troll you? Do you think women flirted with you or whatever for entertainment and nothing more?

[–]neofauPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

That shit happened to me before the meme. edit : Its a series of very long stories.

[–]ZoidbergluverBluePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I'm asking you to give me a specific example of how women have "trolled" you. The point I'm getting at is, did you have a single instance of a human being that happened to be female upsetting you in some way that you now blame all women for and hold a grudge against?

[–]neofauPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

blame all women for and hold a grudge against?

Not a red piller or consider myself incel. But to your question there was a few times when girls would flirt with me, get close, and personal. Then tell me they have a boyfriend, "You will be a great guy...for some other girl", or told that women will like me after being with alphas/chads/tyrones (honestly pick your favorite version)

I don't hold a grudge against women. I just don't want to be a plan b or beta bucks.

[–]ZoidbergluverBluePurple Pill Woman1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Everyone gets rejected. That doesn't mean you're plan B or that they are chasing the dumb jock pretty boy stereotype.

[–]neofauPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Everyone does get rejected, hell I dont even mind it because at least I can know where I stand. But even the apex guys but not everyone gets a long drawn out mixed signal clusterfuck to extract any benefits from the rejectee. I just want to avoid that scenario again

edit : a sentence

[–]MeshakhadGamma Male3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Am I happy that I'm still a virgin? No.

Am I happy overall? Yes. I just got my bachelor's, I'm applying to grad school, I have a nice apartment, and my life is pretty together right now.

[–]KnightwriterI points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm a virgin male totally content with it the desire for premarital sex totally baffles me. That all being said l do wish I had an outlet for tamer physical affection.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you very religious?

[–]KnightwriterI points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see. Makes sense. Although I'm not necessarily religious, I agree with you that I don't see casual sex as "casual".

[–]slothsenpaiChad's autistic buddy4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I was a virgin 'til I was 25 and I can tell you that it was hellish during that time! Between 18-21, I was interested in the prospects of girls/sex though I wasn't too bothered by the fact that I was a virgin since I cared more about football, anime, games, friends etc. It was only 'til my third year of uni that it suddenly hit me where I became jaded, felt inadequate about my lack of sexual experiences compared to others, therefore becoming vastly obsessed with losing my v-card and losing motivation in my uni work. This meant going out for nights and missing a lot of my lectures.

Though I'm fucked 27 different kinds of women (and have a few more lined up), I still feel jaded and like I'm trying to fill a hole that can't be satisfied. Just as how women can be damaged and desensitised from having too many partners, I reckon the same can be for incels (and later-bloomers) who try to play catch up, see sex as a conquest rather than pleasure per se and reluctant to form relationships since they become obsessed with the count and try to live up to the Chad that they may have hated but secretly envied.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Interesting. I'm not interested in casual sex at all because it sounds like a bunch of stress, shit tons of drama, and lots of risk. I'm 28 and at this point I sort of feel like, I'm never going to feel like a normal person in the sense of all those years with loneliness and an absence of affection, so I might as well embrace being increasingly weird and increasingly smart, and keeping everyone distant or at arm's reach. I sort of don't care if my social skills were to deteriorate further in order to gain more intelligence in other areas. Dopamine in the context of self-improvement, is more important to me than oxytocin, essentially, and I actually get rewarded instead of horribly burned for chasing it.

[–]PurpleBanner0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are over thinking things, bud.

[–]ambitiousprojector1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Have you been trying to get laid? Do you ever feel sexual frustration? Or were you from a young age never that interested in sex?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

Have you been trying to get laid?

I'm not interested in casual sex, partly because I think I would get too attached. I've been on dating sites and occasionally talked to different women. I'm very introverted and I don't like crowds, I don't like long drives and feel like I'd get more out of my car by not dating a woman who forces me to drive too much, plus I wake up really late where there isn't much time before bars close, so I don't really go out.

Do you ever feel sexual frustration?

I've felt frustration with sex and relationships moreso in the past. I've been around the MGTOW youtube community since maybe 2013. So I've had a large amount of time to figure out how I can live the best, happiest life possible if I'm going to stay single and maintain standards with women.

In 2014, being exposed to red pill content and trying to find a solution, I was trying to find methods to induce asexuality without testosterone loss and aromanticism. I intentionally tried to traumatize myself to the point of burning out my ability to feel romantic loneliness, by forcing myself to look at and remember red pill content regardless of how much pain was associated with it. I took Vitex once, now marketed as a women's supplement, it is a plant that might've been taken by ancient monks to reduce their sex drive, it antagonized my testosterone by raising prolactin, but when I came off of it it felt like I got the shit kicked out of me from the inside out; I never did it again.

As for the present, for the most part I'm very numb. When infatuation always ends badly, you associate it with being bad. When the chemical triggers for infatuation stop taking place and you avoid women more, you become more numb. But if you are more numb, you don't have to risk being on an emotional roller coaster, and you don't have to risk the horrible suffering that comes with the lows. Both have their pros and cons.

Or were you from a young age never that interested in sex?

Nope, I have a normal sex drive. But I was raised pretty close to fundamentalist Christian. I'm not Christian anymore, and I've never wanted kids, but I do click more with Christian women although I don't know if that necessarily equals compatibility, I think some of the values that the religion associates with relationships have stayed with me, and don't mirror the popular values for relationships today. However I like the pre-SJW Atheist community although I don't identify with the label, and I've identified with gothic culture for over a decade, so I certainly have no desire to set foot inside a church.

[–]ambitiousprojector1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, I didnt just mean as in casual sex, I just meant have you actually tried to get sex, at all. The reason I asked is because I do know a few guys who aren't really bothered about not having sex, but that's because they were never really interested in sex or dating to begin with. It jut doesn't appeal to them like it does with the average guy. Those are the only HAPPY male virgins I know of.

took Vitex once, now marketed as a women's supplement, it is a plant that might've been taken by ancient monks to reduce their sex drive, it antagonized my testosterone by raising prolactin, but when I came off of it it felt like I got the shit kicked out of me from the inside out

That's intense man. If you do actually have a sex drive, you should maybe invest in a long term relationships. A good relationships is worth, I promise. And if not, surely even casual sex would be better than trying something extreme like that?

pre-SJW Atheist community

I am not familiar with this. What is it?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like me fam.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Twinsies." -- Deadpool

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I imagine your woman woes are a large source of your depression that drives being a goth.

Do you think of yourself as an angry person? Or are you more on the gentle side?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I imagine your woman woes are a large source of your depression that drives being a goth.

I was drawing monsters and reading short horror stories when I was a little kid (the horror stories still creeped me the fuck out though, I was just a kid). Goth doesn't equal depression. A lot of gothic stuff makes me happier, there's a black cane with a tower of steel skulls on it that has sat in the corner of my bedroom for years.

Do you think of yourself as an angry person? Or are you more on the gentle side?

Both. =P But I think most of the time I'm more gentle than angry, to use those terms.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I imagine your woman woes are a large source of your depression that drives being a goth.

I was drawing monsters and reading short horror stories when I was a little kid (the horror stories still creeped me the fuck out though, I was just a kid). Goth doesn't equal depression. A lot of gothic stuff makes me happier, there's a black cane with a tower of steel skulls on it that has sat in the corner of my bedroom for years.

To me, gothic culture comes from embracing depression and sadness and making it an art, a way of life, even celebrating it.

You can't find a truly happy goth. They'd no longer be goth.

Melancholic stuff, sad stuff, makes you feel good and you enjoy it.

I understand the goth world, it's like a cousin to the metal world. Perhaps the difference lies in turning that sadness and pain more into anger and rage.

Goths and metalheads both tend to stare at death, often. Hence, your black cane with a tower of skulls.

Do you think of yourself as an angry person? Or are you more on the gentle side?

Both. =P But I think most of the time I'm more gentle than angry, to use those terms.

Yup, as I expected.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Well you have your opinion and I have mine. Goth doesn't equal depression, and that kind of black and white thinking isn't logical. Sadness and pain are the same thing so you can't turn sadness into pain. When I look at my skull cane, I'm not usually thinking of death, I just like the dark aesthetic, I associate it with emotional safety-- in the same way someone who loves the beach might do with sea shells, I don't even think of the fact that I'm looking at something shaped like human anatomy. Every human being on earth has things they associate with emotional safety, correlation doesn't equal causation, liking certain poetically dark things doesn't absolutely mean people who do that are mentally ill just because you don't understand how they came to those associations.

Yup, as I expected.

This is baiting me to ask you why you had that expectation, setting yourself up as an authority on my life without any evidence anywhere in your post as to why you should be one. Honestly I find it manipulative and impolite. Have a nice day.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well you have your opinion and I have mine. Goth doesn't equal depression, and that kind of black and white thinking isn't logical.

I didn't mean to imply it equals depression, but it enjoys depressive things. Exactly as you put it really, the aesthetic of depressive things. I see depression like I scale, plenty of people are on the depressive side while not being actually depressed.

Sadness and pain are the same thing so you can't turn sadness into pain.

Never heard that before. They are related to me but different.

When I look at my skull cane, I'm not usually thinking of death, I just like the dark aesthetic, I associate it with emotional safety-- in the same way someone who loves the beach might do with sea shells, I don't even think of the fact that I'm looking at something shaped like human anatomy. Every human being on earth has things they associate with emotional safety, correlation doesn't equal causation, liking certain poetically dark things doesn't absolutely mean people who do that are mentally ill just because you don't understand how they came to those associations.

What would you feel like after some time of not being able to experience dark aesthetics?

If someone were to take all of it from you and you couldn't listen to anything but happy music.

Yup, as I expected.

This is baiting me to ask you why you had that expectation, setting yourself up as an authority on my life without any evidence anywhere in your post as to why you should be one. Honestly I find it manipulative and impolite. Have a nice day.

Its just pattern matching really. Is that strange to you?

Is it odd that someone into meditating and vedanta is also more gentle?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I will entertain your questions because I'm interested in what your motive is for asking them. =P

Never heard that before. They are related to me but different.

To clarify myself, sadness is a form of pain, and so its synonymous with it in that way, but not the other way around.

What would you feel like after some time of not being able to experience dark aesthetics?

It would annoy me at the worst.

If someone were to take all of it from you and you couldn't listen to anything but happy music.

At least half of the music I listen to is happy music, so I wouldn't mind.

Its just pattern matching really. Is that strange to you?

Not at all. Its your lack of transparency by asking many questions without presenting the reason why you want the answers. In my experience, the vast majority of the people who ask me questions without presenting the reason or motive why, are creating a set-up where they can be a troll, and its an enormous waste of time that goes nowhere.

Is it odd that someone into meditating and vedanta is also more gentle?

No. Not at all. Its probably inevitable.

[–]KV-n1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

overall absolutely not, but with everything else apart from nonexistent sex life, yes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see.

[–]kkohl981 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Overall, its improving, which is something I enjoy seeing, but for my lack of experience, it does bother me sometimes though. πŸ™

[–]shadowrangerfs1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm 31 and virgin. I am not happy with my life. However, my being a virgin has NOTHING to do with my unhappiness. I've been looking for a job for about 7 months and have found nothing. I'm also broke and living in my sister's basement. Losing my virginity is way low on my list of priorities.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's rough.

[–]Typhoon_AshbiteMGTOW1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am a male virgin and I am perfectly happy with my life at the moment.

To me, the desire to have sex is not very different from the desire to satiate one's hunger or the desire to urinate or the desire to sleep or the desire to defecate.

To satiate my sexual desire, I find it more prudent to just jerk off and move on. It is more efficient and effective than getting into a romantic relationship or having one night stands. Sure, having sex would probably feel good, just as eating really delicious food and sleeping on a really nice bead feels good, but the juice is not worth the squeeze.

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[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I don't see how a virgin can be happy in our society. Having women is part of what we say you need to be happy. Virgins will feel perpetually rejected by society and in turn happiness for failing this goal.

A happy virgin is a hermit divorced from society.

[–]ZoidbergluverBluePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

So you're saying that women are an accessory to men? If men don't "have" a woman they aren't accepted by society?

This thought process is so damaging to both genders.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

So you're saying that women are an accessory to men?

No not really.

If men don't "have" a woman they aren't accepted by society?

Never having had a woman is not accepted by society.

This thought process is so damaging to both genders.

Why do you feel that way?

[–]ZoidbergluverBluePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

What did you mean by "having" a woman? That's implying sex= some sort of ownership.

It's damaging to both genders because it encourages the idea that having sex with a woman is some sort of conquest or prize, and that a woman is "giving it up" by having sex. That's just a terrible attitude for everyone to have. Men and women should have sex because they want to, not because of societal pressure or out of weird a reward system. Don't put pussy on a pedestal, its bad for everyone.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

What did you mean by "having" a woman? That's implying sex= some sort of ownership.

If a woman allows a man to fuck her, she gives him her body for the duration of the fuck session.

Its okay. It's still your body regardless. Don't freak out.

It's damaging to both genders because it encourages the idea that having sex with a woman is some sort of conquest or prize,

But it is. Nothing damaging about this, it's instinctual.

The woman is a conquest to be 'defeated' so that pussy can be 'slain'. It's in our very language, we equate it to war.

and that a woman is "giving it up" by having sex.

What does she give up? Control. Gives permission.

That's just a terrible attitude for everyone to have. Men and women should have sex because they want to, not because of societal pressure or out of weird a reward system. Don't put pussy on a pedestal, its bad for everyone.

Acting like people want to have sex for non biological instincts to begin with is nonsense. Yes society compels sex habits too, why shouldn't a society say how sex should be had? Sex is incredibly important for society to function. Sex drives so much of nature and humans are not above this.

Reward systems exist for sex in our instincts as well as society, without it, we probably wouldn't exist.

[–]ZoidbergluverBluePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I never said sex isn't biological. Nothing about "slaying" a pussy is biological, that's societal. Using language that insinuates that sex degrades women and elevates men is societal. Animals don't use sex to degrade women and elevate men.

It is damaging to both men and women because it puts "pussy on a pedestal". A woman now thinks she can use sex to leverage things from men, a man now thinks he needs sex to validate him.

Don't you see how those ideas could be harmful? Sex is not meant to be that way. From a biological, carnal perspective, the purpose of sex is to procreate and have a release of dopamine from orgasm. Society had added all these harmful taboos like sex being degrading to women and elevating men in status.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I never said sex isn't biological. Nothing about "slaying" a pussy is biological, that's societal. Using language that insinuates that sex degrades women and elevates men is societal. Animals don't use sex to degrade women and elevate men.

Its not degrading towards women. You do not know what a woman is, so you find it degrading to your fucked up definition of a woman.

It is damaging to both men and women because it puts "pussy on a pedestal". A woman now thinks she can use sex to leverage things from men, a man now thinks he needs sex to validate him.

Uhhh yes, women can and do leverage sex for things. Stupid women, sluts, do not. And that is their fault for devaluing themselves.

A man that can't get sex reliably is typically a failure. And that is good. He will not have a chance to reproduce. His genes will die out.

Don't you see how those ideas could be harmful? Sex is not meant to be that way. From a biological, carnal perspective, the purpose of sex is to procreate and have a release of dopamine from orgasm. Society had added all these harmful taboos like sex being degrading to women and elevating men in status.

Women have been trading sex for protection and things from men forever. And they always will, and this is how it should be.

Sex is not only for babies and fun, as you so desperately seem to wish.

[–]ZoidbergluverBluePurple Pill Woman0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Uh huh... how are women trading sex for protection exactly? In the US, 40% of women make more than their husbands. Men and women have mostly equal opportunities to support themselves. Women do not need to rely on men for any means.

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Uh huh... how are women trading sex for protection exactly?

Its less obvious as it would have been before government, but even then, it's not like our society has zero danger, especially if you travel much, camp and go to more vulnerable places.

But, if a woman needs some muscle or help, she can typically count on the men she has under her spell to come to her aid, whether they've had sex or are simply orbiters.

In the US, 40% of women make more than their husbands. Men and women have mostly equal opportunities to support themselves. Women do not need to rely on men for any means.

Yet, nearly all women rather be in a relationship than not. You don't exactly see anything remotely equivalent to MGTOW. Why do you think that is if women don't rely on men today?

[–]PoserprostituteNo fatalism, no denial0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Totally with ya here zoidberg

[–]Princeso_Bubblegum☭ The real red pill ☭2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty chill.

The lack of sex doesn't bother me, its the lack of sufficient cuddles :(

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Cuddle parties perhaps?

[–]Princeso_Bubblegum☭ The real red pill ☭0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's pretty much what I do right now lol

[–]SetConsumesAlways Becoming0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't help but find cuddle parties to be depressing. All these women just want relationships!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Age 22 - 25 I was miserable but the fact that I was a virgin didn't really cross my mind during that time.

[–]Ascimatorsmirks audibly0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess my life could be better if I was laid regularly, but I don't really feel any existential pressure or anything. Not yet, at least.

[–]run_from_your_wife points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I am actually very happy with my life! If my 18yo self knew where I would be ten years later I would be much less stressed.

Then again I'm not exactly an "incel" but an antisocial.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's good to hear. Yeah I don't like the incel label either.

[–]RhuntaRed pill christian /r/TRPCORE0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Virgin by choice. 22 year male. Ask me anything.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you religious? Asexual/aromantic?

[–]RhuntaRed pill christian /r/TRPCORE0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Religious, but it that is a small part in it. I want a virgin chick, so I would feel hypocrite if I wasnt one myself. Also if I start having sex it will be an other need that I have to think about filling.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see.

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