On Hubris and Humanity

redpillschool · 2020-09-28T18:15:50+00:00

if you can’t even look in the mirror without seeing all the pain you’ve caused to our mothers, daughters, and sisters.

I think you've accepted the feminine frame by assuming somehow that sex is something taken from a woman, and by presenting anything less than the genuine article, you are defrauding them by not honoring your side of the contract. This is a smart play for team women, they know they can get men to damage their own strategies to the benefit of the female strategy. Sex as a means of securing commitment. The play as old as time.

Make no mistake, pain is part of the game. (a zero-sum game mind you). And they will not think twice about inflicting it on you.

That doesn't mean go out of your way to hurt women. But at the same time, don't cut your strategy off at the knees because one team wants to pretend there are rules while they flagrantly ignore them.

At the same time, don't be a soulless asshole because there are diminishing returns and surely some negative consequences if you're not careful. You may want a long term relationship, and lies and deceit are a bad recipe for long-term success. Calibrate your behavior for your intended outcome.

Getting caught up in whether or not you're a husk of a man because you told a couple white lies to a one-nighter is giving it more thought than she will ever think about you.

SKRedPill · 2020-09-28T17:32:06+00:00

There is one question you haven't asked or answered yourself -- Do you realize that whoever you were - whether you were a beta, then a guy in the anger phase, then a pump and dump player, and now again swinging back to being nice bordering on purple pill -- that in every single stage, women were firmly in control of you the whole time?

It's a late realization for many of us, and it can happen multiple times, that it sometimes hits us that just like the Nice Guy for whom dad is still at the back and bottom of his mind, after doing everything seemingly right, women are still in control?

Do you realize that the emotional brain essentially runs on the patterns it has been fed in your lifetime? This is exactly why he who fights monsters, often becomes the very thing he swore to defeat -- that is exactly the game your emotional patterns want you to play. And the opposite of crazy, is still crazy.

So who are you? Have you accepted yourself truthfully first?

If everything you've ever done was all a gigantic reaction to what a woman did to you, somewhere you must recognize that these patterns exist, release them and move on. Or else nothing you do is really in your frame. To be fair, virtually all of us are to various extents. Some of us know it a bit more, others have yet to see.

You tell us who you are and who you want to be, as authentically yourself.

Besides, this is just the same old story. There are moments of attraction where you're so totally overwhelmed you've lost yourself, it feels like 7th heaven, then slowly it becomes all about you and your needs and her and her needs. It's the zeroth law of relationships -"Relationships are all about needs". This phase is just the beginning of uncovering the covert contracts. If at this stage, neither of you are aware enough to spot it arising in the moment, the same old story will repeat. Over time, it will go from this to more of "she she she" -- you will swing back to pleasing her ever more at the cost of yourself, and once the attractive you has been ground down to the service of "she", she's now so full of her own ego and you're such a shadow of your past that that there's no more attraction, and you know what comes next.

Look, relationships (and life) isn't static. There is no 50-50 middle line that runs perfectly straight. Relationships are dynamic and they're are going to flow.

If you don't wanna be cruel and don't like what you're doing, don't do it. It's a free world. Nowhere do you really have as much choice as with yourself. You're the man brother. But is it truly your choice? Tomorrow are you going to be defined by her smiles and sobs again? Have you genuinely expanded your awareness and you're doing it because you've truly learned the consequences of your actions? Or is it because she cried and this entire realization is merely being reactive to her emotional frame?

Recognize the pattern to break it consciously. The choice is yours now - to continue on the pendulum or to take a better path. Then you can be authentic and actually offer something that's truly yours.

a123b12 · 2020-09-28T15:20:11+00:00

What you did has actually been described in 'The Rational Male'. You are basically a PUA who hasn't been red-pilled. I suggest you read some TRP books to gain actual knowledge about TRP.

trollreign · 2020-09-28T15:29:52+00:00

Interesting read, I'm happy you got to the conclusion that you got to by the end.

But note that it's not necessary to go through the phases that you went through. People with more emotional intelligence or maturity go straight from your initial state to your final state after discovering TRP. It's not TRP, it's you that caused the issue here.

And finally, the women you break up with will be hurt, initially, whether you like it or not. But they heal over time. Breaking up gracefully and peacefully is a skill that needs to be learned to minimize the pain. I meet several of my past women occasionally. They tell me what happened to them over the past several months, how they are still out there looking for the "right man", they suck my cock like there's no tomorrow, then we don't talk again for a few months until they text "Heey, how's it going?" or something like that again. They no longer hurt, they just want some fun between two "boyfriends".

TheGweatandTewwible · 2020-09-28T20:11:20+00:00

First of all, you gotta get over yourself. You're making this out to be more dramatic than it is. Even though you "learned your lesson" by the end of this post, the fact you find it necessary to write it out this way shows you still identify with this "tortured hero" image. Let go of your ego and learn to chill out

Second, this is pretty interesting because TRP never advises against this "based fuckboy" to the noobs. This is my opinion but TRP's sidebar should have some noobie posts about letting go of anger, trauma and all the good stuff because it would cut the learning curve so much. Once you adopt a win-win mentality and learn to offer value to the world, this high school drama stops happening

arakouzo · 2020-09-29T14:00:42+00:00

You fell for it.

You learned the game and how it works, but then you forgot it was a game.

You slipped backward into your old blue pill way of thinking, where women are special, and "hurting them" makes you some kind of terrible human.

Women are people, just like you. And when you have sex with them and don't marry them or treat them like goddesses and they're sad about it, that is no worse than any of the women who wouldn't go out with you when you were less attractive.

This is how the game works. You know it. We know it. Women know it. And when a woman lets you know she is hurt, that is her making a move in the game. But she's an adult. She can deal with being hurt and not getting what she wants out of her relationships, the same way we can.

You are not some kind of bad person for "hurting women" any more than women who won't date you are bad people for hurting your feelings. This is just how the game works. You don't marry every woman you have sex with, even if they act hurt about it.

Dimenzije90 · 2020-09-28T17:22:57+00:00

The perfect type of a man in the eyes of a women is a "loveable asshole".

Schhwing · 2020-09-29T04:09:27+00:00

You spent a lot of time pretending to be something you weren’t and game playing which apparently only hurt you.

Maybe it’s time to stop pretending to be something other than what you are. If you don’t like what you are, try to improve it genuinely. Then move on genuinely.

MentORPHEUS · 2020-09-29T15:05:59+00:00

Good writing, it's up there with the likes of Clarey and Ellis.

Anyone who thinks this is actionable red pill advice or how to be an alpha is a moron.

2020-09-29T05:24:47+00:00

That Nietzsche quote really sums up the human mind. Psychologically, we are products of our environment. The more we think about something, the more we become it/manifest it. (Law of Attraction).

I see it everyday... the new employee's start acting like the older ones. The freshman players on the football team start acting like the senior players. The poor associate with the poor and stay poor. MarriedPill dad goes to the bar with other MarriedPill men.

Surround yourself with people you want to be like... biggest life changing decision I have ever made.

Zech4riah · 2020-09-29T11:13:54+00:00

This pretty much summarizes why I choose the honest route. When you are a high SMV man, you don't have to lie. It's easy for me to endure female tears (sometimes result of honesty) but it's really difficult for me to be a weak cheater who sells his soul and integrity for pussy.

1millionbucks · 2020-09-28T15:06:44+00:00

I feel dumber for having read even a tiny part of this. Jesus Christ you don't have to be a piece of shit to get girls lmao. The biggest problem with TRP is all the incels that use it to get pussy AT ALL COSTS like they're some kind of fuckboi war robot with 0 emotional awareness whatsoever. Amazing that you felt you had to write this long screed just to announce to the world that you are a total fucking psycho douchebag and that you realized that women are actually people too.

TheRedPillRipper · 2020-09-28T21:30:20+00:00

First I’ve always been an advocate of TRP being amoral. Lying, cheating and manipulation have always been and will always be sexual strategies. Often successful too. A man has the right to choose.

That said I agree with this;

if you can’t even look in the mirror

The ONLY justification you need is the man in mirror’s. For example when my current was pregnant I picked up an old plate, spun her, then dropped her again. Was it amoral? Worst thing ever to some. To me? The first thing I did was accept my actions; and the possible consequences. I accepted my actions could’ve destroyed my family. My relationship. I knew also I could pick up the pieces and rebuild from the chaos. I accepted that worst case scenario and worked toward the best. More importantly PRIOR to taking action.

This is the final stage of the redpill: Acceptance.

Acceptance is the first step. That any decision you make, or any action you take; you’re good with. Amoral or not.

It’s a powerful way to drive your decision making. You gain another level of objectivity to distance yourself from the outcome. True Outcome Independence. There’s one more benefit; Congruence. Your actions align with your self-acceptance. A Genuinely Strong Frame.

Godspeed and good luck!

Landsherr · 2020-09-29T15:42:39+00:00

Hey, have you considered that you may likely have childhood trauma? It may be from a time that your consciously don't remember. You should try out 10 day vipassana meditation centres. And maybe you should sort out your trauma with a therapist. There are also new forms of therapy such as inner child healing therapy try out a 10 min session, worth it.

seducingcaliph · 2020-09-29T13:42:14+00:00

this is a big post of bullshit. you banged all those women, feel stupid regret and now tell us we should be beta? Fuck no, we deserve to be bad and we shouldn't let anything stop us to reach our goals

LudwigVanBlunts · 2020-09-28T17:29:45+00:00

Anyone else just skip to the end of these RP posts? Lol it's like Patrice said about making his girl tell the end of the story fist. Shit's too much sometimes

nostalgebra · 2020-09-28T18:06:27+00:00

Jesus this is written like Michael Scott. All you talk about is how strong and jacked you are. So little self awareness

TheREALGigglePants · 2020-09-28T18:48:17+00:00

With all due respect, I'm not buying what you are selling. If you let it, the Red Pill soaks you right to the bone and you are no longer swayed.

AlexKarter · 2020-09-28T15:57:04+00:00

I love how you start this post with a totally out of context quote by Nietzsche who himself said “the worst readers” are those who scavenge his writings and take just bits here and there wherever it suits their interests.

It’s posts like this that give a bad name to TRP. People who haven’t even read the sidebar once get laid by acting like a total ass to girls and think they’re totaled red pilled and the second coming of Jesus. Then you go and “teach” other blue pills how “alpha” you are and the cycle of this sub degenerating continues. If you wanna delude yourself that’s fine but don’t dilute this sub with even more nonsense.

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TheDarknessGoat · 2020-09-30T11:03:23+00:00

So you went from the beta frame of doing everything for a highschool girl to the PUA frame of doing everything guys who women want to fuck do. You see the pattern? you are still a slave to femine frame and someone who will do anything for sex, but now, you are succesful. Next stage, do whatever the fuck you want. You are already ahead of your game, most don`t have the balls to become the sadistic fuck you became, but even fewer develop the strenght to live on your own frame.

All that being said, nice post, well written, enjoyful to read and insightful

darkstar1031 · 2020-09-28T15:13:20+00:00

There are

SO MANY

Young men on here that desperately need to learn this lesson.

d3g4d0 · 2020-09-28T15:08:44+00:00

Sounds like the journey to me. Going from the one that's hurt to the one doing the hurting and then realizing you don't want to be either. No one has life figured out. Just do your best to be a good man.

GoFuclcYourself · 2020-09-28T15:11:07+00:00

You need serious help...you are not red pilled at all my dude and that was all so painful and cringy to read you tripping over your own god damn tongue repeatedly just because of pussy. You’re never going to be a man or get laid with the mindset you have...seriously go see a therapist.

reddie76 · 2020-09-28T23:22:39+00:00

You gazed into the abyss for too long, friend

zino193 · 2020-09-29T07:39:44+00:00

The irony of calling out hubris in such a experimentally formatted post.

Man, you are basically saying: you are evil for not being exactly what a woman thinks she wants?

Listen here, billy boy beta... they don't want the soft spoken poet that worships their thighs from across the room too afraid to touch as to not soil the maidens blooms.

They want the beast. They suck the cock of the beast. They eat the hairy sweaty arse of the guy that can barely spare 5 minutes for them.

What you argue about is their "locking down" phase, where she tries to domesticate the beast. It's not about her being a poor little lass that can't get no man, it's about her being the whore than can't get no man to stick.

And that, my dear sextepreneur - is on her - not on you, or the market. If she can't cook, be a good conversationalist, be entertaining and loving (not hungry to love like the BPD chicks) - THAT IS ON HER my dude. There's plenty of women that hook up with Boring Mc Borstein, right out of high-school, get a meh job and plop out 2.3 babies over the next 10 years and live a perfectly average and boring life. All those bitches and hoes above - reject that life with a passion. They proactively decide that is not for them. So getting all nest-maker and itching for love after a good pounding is more than facetious.

She has choices my dude, her life is actually filled with them - if she makes the bad ones, you aren't her daddy and it's not on you to make bad choices for yourself just so she can get a few months of feeling like she won at the sexual market, she got the beast domesticated.

Believe it or not - this is right. Pumping and dumping a girl that thinks she deserves to be a princess, just because she still has a nice waist - is just.

Being straightforward and only offering what you want - dick - is moral.

Going down in age and dating seriously the business major self starter in a pencil skirt with a good father figure and relationship modeling when you got your shit financially sorted is a valid strategy.

You are not the savior of the world, and any pretense to think otherwise just shows you are too terrified to save yourself and do what is right for you. You are seeking redemption externally because you can not forgive yourself.

Ajkulicabre · 2020-09-29T11:13:06+00:00

I might read it later, but from the first couple of sentences I knew this wasn't "red pill"

SoulRedemption · 2020-09-29T01:40:36+00:00

Looks like you've been through quite the journey.

This is all in retrospect however. As men we have to take responsibility for all actions, ownership of what we do and say. You can't just throw shade at an ideology just because you gained knowledge and lived it how you saw fit. While it is good to reflect I am afraid some of the youngsters here may not see it for what it is.

Alpha and beta are not solid states. It is not like a switch that turns you into beta, or alpha. These are traits. As much as one claims to be alpha, it does not mean all beta traits are gone. At least this is how I see it.

You live the life you want. You gain knowledge, you experience them and become the man that you want to be. Not the man that world wants you to be. Ofcourse sprinkle some basic acceptances of societal life (e.g. do not kill). But if you do not like the man you had become, it is on you, not on the world, not on other people, and not on where you got knowledge from.

There is nothing you can do to make someone feel exactly the way you do about them, towards you. Not parents, not friends, not women. There are so many other factors at play, that it isn't even chess. Integrity goes a long way. May be what it should be is, to be what you want to be, not what the rest think you should. Cuz ultimately you are the ones that will face the consequences. You can listen to the advise of men with great experience, but even if you make a different choice, understsnf that you held the keys to the doors so you chose which door to walk through. Understand what the consequences may be.

RuskinBondFan · 2020-09-28T18:47:06+00:00

You sir have been the best thing, I have read today. Or maybe, this entire month.

KanDeMan2 · 2020-09-30T17:53:20+00:00

This is well written..........................................fiction.

It's getting really hard to accept most of these kinds of reports......I see the manlets in the gym every week. Thinking they are lions when they are sheep....Fucking 4's and thinking they are 9's....

You got some ass and found religion.....great.

Imhaveapoosy · 2020-09-28T22:59:59+00:00

That was nice to read. You should write movies.

PurpleLemon4de · 2020-09-28T21:17:57+00:00

I was born without empathy. I can’t understand your point and I never will. I’ve lied and hurt people and never looked back over my shoulder once? Am I evil or a product of genetics? My condition isn’t curable, it’s manageable but who’s to say there’s something wrong with me..

Besthater · 2020-09-28T22:56:20+00:00

BPD. You're lucky she didn't kill you.

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