Blue pill, what do you think red pillers were like before finding the red pill?

buartha · 2015-07-08T15:44:10+00:00

There's a lot of variation in people who identify as RP so it's hard to narrow it down to one general stereotype of what they were before they stumbled across it. I'll try to give a general overview of where I think people seem to be coming from.

The population on the main sub seems to be mostly split between old-style PUA types, manospherians, recent divorcees/unhappy married dudes and inexperienced guys in their late teens/ early twenties.

Writing style tends to give away what type they are; 'le edgy' posters are more likely to be late teens/ early twenties (though sometimes manosphere types do that too,) the really, really angry posters are the virgins or the recent divorcees, the PUA types are in love with acronyms and the manosphere types get very into the more political/ philosophical aspects of the whole thing.

Obviously all of the above is a generalization, but it seems to loosely bear out in many cases from what I've seen.

cherryblue12 · 2015-07-08T15:26:43+00:00

I always imagine them as dumpy, nerdy high school guys who think that the way to get a girl to want them is to be her personal errand boy and shoulder to cry on. Then they figure out this doesn't work and they swing WAY too far in the opposite direction and think that the way to get girls to want them is to treat them like irrational children.

[deleted] · 2015-07-08T15:46:02+00:00

Had below average social skills, high standards for their level of attractiveness.

nicethingyoucanthave · 2015-07-08T15:23:54+00:00

I assume they were mostly people who had problems in their dating/personal life.

[deleted] · 2015-07-08T16:18:10+00:00

Standard shy/angry kid who didn't understand jokes or references made by others, didn't understand when his presence was undesired because he couldnt grasp the social cues. Probably was bullied, or bullied other people.

The "problem kids" who had anger/aggression issues and always disrupting class with their BS. The kids who'd ask the teacher stupid questions to challenge their authority. Also the kids who never spoke up and seethed quietly that so and so chick didn't like them back.

Yonderlander · 2015-07-08T16:47:16+00:00

Definitely an element of being on the spectrum- low empathy and some level of social failure.

[deleted] · 2015-07-08T17:10:27+00:00

The typical. Guys who complain womens don't like nice guys like them, instead go after assholes. So they decide to idealize, emulate those assholes that were getting laid.

Cyralea · 2015-07-08T17:39:02+00:00

Nice guys. Thinking that if they do nice things for people they'll get what they want. Emphasis on they want. Also...these 'nice' things were never asked...you should do nice things because you want to, not because of a potential payout. And if you don't want to do nice things just because, then don't!

wtknight · 2015-07-08T17:40:14+00:00

They were probably either quiet and withdrawn, or that annoying guy who is constantly texting a woman even after she shows no interest. Pre-Red Pillers are also high in envy, as they always seem to be jealous of what "Chad" can get. I'm guessing a lot of them didn't have healthy relationships with their mothers, either, and likely didn't have a father to teach them proper masculine values, as the misogyny isn't something that suddenly develops when one takes the Red Pill.

haircombsnightmare · 2015-07-08T15:36:55+00:00

Madonna/whore complex couldn't be any stronger in RP.

belletaco · 2015-07-08T15:30:14+00:00

Socially awkward teenagers with anger problems and mommy issues.

thereddespair · 2015-07-08T15:30:35+00:00

not blue but for the hell of it.

i think some were men who got stepped on by other men. some had women they loved truly, but got screwed over and cheated upon or leeched and lied to. hurt basically by women.

add. some where probably even cuckolded. simply put emotionally abused maybe? at one point things just snap you know.

some havent had the chance to even try to love women, as they are rejected repeatedly. seeing these same women they wanted to love being ruined by men they called assholes, that is psychologically damaging. my best friend in college was like that. after, he actually just naturally turned trp even without knowing what trp is.

some already had it good to begin with. the top down view can be intoxicating and blurs things. from the beginning they got it so easy that they just naturally started to see women as of small value, abundant supply = less value.

some are just traditionalists, probably from foreign cultures. (why this is in bold i dont know how that happened)

I try to see things as we are all naturally neutral, in opinion. life then comes in and turns you blue or red. the struggle is to get back to that neutral zone and be able to control when to turn blue or red, as the situation demands. blue or red in permanence, i think is not always ideal in maximizing your experiences in life.

terminator3456 · 2015-07-08T17:23:19+00:00

The same as they are now, minus lots of internet bravado & snark.

[deleted] · 2015-07-08T16:19:09+00:00

Just nerds looking for pua information to get laid

cvcv1991 · 2015-07-08T16:45:45+00:00

They were fat and ugly, now they're fit and ugly.

Title	Blue pill, what do you think red pillers were like before finding the red pill?
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Date	July 8, 2015 3:22 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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some are just traditionalists, probably from foreign cultures. (why this is in bold i dont know how that happened)