Embrace discomfort, postpone gratification. Experience long lasting comfort and gratification.

maiway · 2015-01-24T13:10:29+00:00

Try giving up porn (not even fapping, just porn) for one month. Notice the different energy.

Sarcasticus · 2015-01-24T13:31:14+00:00

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.

-Aristotle

Self-discipline is a skill that can be honed with practice. This post is a good reminder of that. Self-discipline means doing what you know you should do, when you should, whether you feel like it or not. Self-discipline means delaying short-term gratification for long term results.

Most importantly, the only way to achieve your goals is through self-discipline.

asd1100 · 2015-01-24T09:03:48+00:00

Great post.

This would have been recieved with applause even just a year ago. But not today, not anymore, those men are gone or stopped giving a shit. This subreddit is unfortunetly populated by man children, little biches and angry circlejerkers. They don't come here for the hard stuff, the come here to fluff their egos and be told that just having a penis makes them special.

I want you to know that you are completely right about almost everything. You just need to also give yourself authority to reward yourself on occasions and understand that pleasure is also within your power.

Don't go all ascetic monk.(maybe at the beginning), once you embrace both the power of controlling your behavior whether it be for "good" or for "bad" you are in complete control of your life and your imagination is the biggest limitation you have in life.

Dubiousxy · 2015-01-24T08:35:31+00:00

Our society has turned from one of sacrifice and hardship for long term gain (think moon landings etc). To one of instant gratification and long term pain (gluttony leading to diseases and obesity, credit card debt etc).

Discipline is freedom.

Best described in the book:

THE 7 HABITS OF HIGHLY EFFECTIVE PEOPLE

Section:

HABIT 7: SHARPEN THE SAW

JustApproach · 2015-01-24T08:17:17+00:00

It is not the quality of the desired object that gives us pleasure, but rather the energy of our appetite.

redpillbanana · 2015-01-24T14:18:00+00:00

It starts in childhood: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment

The Stanford marshmallow experiment[1] was a series of studies on delayed gratification in the late 1960s and early 1970s led by psychologist Walter Mischel, then a professor at Stanford University. In these studies, a child was offered a choice between one small reward provided immediately or two small rewards if they waited for a short period, approximately 15 minutes, during which the tester left the room and then returned. (The reward was sometimes a marshmallow, but often a cookie or a pretzel.) In follow-up studies, the researchers found that children who were able to wait longer for the preferred rewards tended to have better life outcomes, as measured by SAT scores,[2] educational attainment,[3] body mass index (BMI),[4] and other life measures.[5]

tits_out_forTheBoys · 2015-01-24T10:09:32+00:00

Be happy that you get such a great reward for so little invested.

Notice how OP uses the word "invested."

This is one of the most important core purposes of TRP...that Men are better off investing their time rather than spending it. Investing involves a return, whereas spending does not.

LastRevision · 2015-01-24T19:14:11+00:00

Meditation should be listed here also. I find it more difficult to keep a meditation program daily than either diet or working out etc. but the reward is tremendous.

Redpillc0re · 2015-01-24T10:32:19+00:00

Cold showers. Awesome discomfort , but i didnt really see any benefits afterwards.

whatsazipper · 2015-01-24T15:34:08+00:00

Agreed.

Unfortunately these days a lot of men around here succumb to the mainstream narrative and are unwilling to unplug. Here's an example you can see around here all the time: "Everything in moderation."

Everything in moderation is bullshit. It's a thought terminating cliché employed when the conversation broaches topics that agitate egoes. When people start squirming, disturbed by the analysis of potentially low value behavior that they engage in, they spout it to stifle conversation about the issue.

The saying is fundamentally blue pill. "Everything in moderation" requires the following to be true: "Everything is equal". These quips couldn't be further from the truth, and anytime discussions like these pop up, you have idiots parroting nonsense to justify remaining in their own bubble of comfort.

cherrypoptart27 · 2015-01-24T16:47:57+00:00

"Get comfortable being uncomfortable"

CoolRunner · 2015-01-24T08:11:11+00:00

Nice post. It's a well presented idea, and a nice boost to momentum.

ostroman1989 · 2015-01-24T10:56:21+00:00

Ill say at this point its obvious to everyone what kind of discomfort would end up beneficial to them, but not all discomfort has the potential to toughen you in any way.

going out alone into a club/party for the first time without your friends and without being in the know ? yeah this would reward you greatly, been there done that.

persevering through numb injuries in a gym? might be a very bad choice as we all know.

the general point of overcoming discomfort is establishing a new comfort zone , going over that barrier into a better life ... mending some of the discrepancy of your genetic instincts and inattentiveness to attain more success in the modern world (dieting) but when you can really go balls to the wall, the problem of ignoring red flags is real imho.

some stuff to watch out for: - abovementioned injuries in the gym - long work hours in a bad job - for the schoolboys here: trying to get into shitty cliques and dealing with their shit -shitty dieting advice thats logistically impossible (loosing weight should be easy unless the switch on your hunger state is broken perpetually) -shitty women (this is what this sub is for duh) who push their problems onto you -infectious disease and general poor health, get it under control bro.

whatsazipper · 2015-01-24T14:03:15+00:00

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EvilCam · 2015-01-24T16:46:46+00:00

Buddhism has some similar messages. It encourages one to directly face your suffering, your disturbing emotions to understand the cause of it. Not to avoid suffering by running from it and numbing yourself with distractions.

Overkillengine · 2015-01-24T09:33:29+00:00

I'll repost a related comment I made in another thread, as it pertains to this concept and how it dovetails with interactions with other people:

"....you can want a certain type of action/reaction from another all you want, but unless there is a direct and immediate reward for them from that desired behavior, you probably shouldn't expect it. This applies to men or women really. Most people do not have enough long term / utilitarian thinking ingrained in them to choose in favor of that over short term gratification / conflict avoidance."

Once can ascribe to whatever ethical system they wish, but it is a mistake to assume that others will comply with that system, and usually a waste of your time getting angry about it.

The smart thing is to learn what system they are using, and acting accordingly to benefit from it.

OakTr3E · 2015-01-24T15:42:24+00:00

Needed this reminder. Was sitting her procrastinating, being hungover and haven't gone to the gym yet. Going now. Cheers!

kogsworth · 2015-01-24T12:54:17+00:00

Definitely true. In my martial arts class, we talk about the concept of 'forging' your mind and body to withstand anything life throws at you outside of the dojo because they'll seem really easy compared to what you're going through during practice.

waylandertheslayer · 2015-01-24T18:51:41+00:00

I think sometimes hardship is a positive feeling. When you get that burn from going a little harder that you thought possible while exercising, you feel like shit but you feel great at the same time.

If you went through life experiencing only the highs, it would be pretty boring. I understand the RP principle of 'keep women entertained emotionally, if they are angry/sad it's better than bored' because in a way we're all like that - it's just less pronounced for men.

blacwidonsfw · 2015-01-24T18:59:31+00:00

I think it's important to make one change at a time. Don't try to do it all at once. Sustainability is key.

RICCIedm · 2015-01-25T01:53:04+00:00

I think alcohol is the most underrated drug ever. Nietzsche says it is as good as religion to soften things up. I've used to get drunk every weekend, and then I'd feel good for the whole week. But I was living a lie. Now that I quit drinking, I can FEEL myself. I can SEE my problems. It's still hard for now, but I'm getting stronger and wiser.

WhereRtheAnswersSway · 2015-01-25T04:55:21+00:00

I think dieting is the stupidest thing for anyone to do, unless you're morbidly obese. You can eat whatever the fuck you want to, just make sure you're lifting enough to make up for it.

CrimsonDeep · 2015-01-25T07:03:54+00:00

Grit is created and cultivated. We are naturally soft.

Grit is what separates an overgrown boy from a man

prodigyx · 2015-01-24T20:25:48+00:00

Cold showers and nofap are the same bullshit. It is mostly placebo effect. If it works for you, then great, but diet and lifting will work for every human.

Title	Embrace discomfort, postpone gratification. Experience long lasting comfort and gratification.
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Date	January 24, 2015 7:20 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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