Why do you believe all women want to be submissive in bed?

soylentblueissmurfs · 2015-03-15T19:16:17+00:00

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What is this?

throwinout · 2015-03-15T19:12:07+00:00

I don't personally believe in that notion, but I can see why some people would. I think it is because women can really only be submissive by choice. A woman can't just "choose" to be dominant if the man doesn't want to be dominated. I mean what's she going to do to dominate a guy that is much stronger than her (without the use of weapons or drugs of course)?

A dominant woman comes about once a man wants to be dominated. A man can choose to be submissive or dominant. A man can choose to be dominant without the consent of a woman (as horrifying as that is).

exit_sandman · 2015-03-15T21:27:36+00:00

Most women are submissive.

I don't believe that every single woman is (I'm female and I've never really gotten pleasure from submissive fantasies and find BDSM-level dom/sub and things like choking to be an active turnoff), but neither do most red pillers I've seen save a few. They just believe that hardcore dominant women (as in, women who want an actively submissive man) are rare enough that you shouldn't hedge your bets on finding one.

/u/throwinout is correct as well, it might not be as big of an issue anymore but men can dominate women in a way that women can't dominate men (as much as I hate that fact, it's true). If most women took no pleasure in submissiveness, most women throughout history would have had awful sex lives where they never got what they wanted. So nature has essentially tricked women into enjoying their own weakness by making them enjoy the presence of a man stronger than they are. (Note: the last sentence in no way means I have any contempt for submissive women, I've just never personally been blessed with the ability to enjoy vulnerability and thus don't really understand it).

theory_of_kink · 2015-03-15T21:35:51+00:00

I'm not a red piller but I would say most women are on some degree of submissiveness.

50 Shades of Grey is hugely popular and its a submissive fantasy for women.

I guess a Blue Piller would say its a product of "the patriarchy." But I think its edgy enough to not really be a product of mainstream culture. That is its BDSM elements are not mainstream.

I think it pushes deep sex buttons in the women who enjoy it.

Dominant women are all too rare.

Another related trait is sexual desire. I don't think women are generally as driven by sex as men are.

Villaintine · 2015-03-15T22:00:07+00:00

So, Redpillers, why do you dismiss the existence of dominant women, or switches?

Because in line with AWALT enough of the women I have banged have reacted more positively (i.e. more verbal and physiological signs of gratitude as well as being contacted to get together more often) to being dominant in bed than they have me being submissive (which often elicited a very "WTF" vibe from them).

So that's why I dismiss it- I don't bother with things I've tested that don't work well for me.

nemma88 · 2015-03-16T13:16:00+00:00

RP teaches dominant behavioral elements.

Women who want to be dominated seek men with dominant behavioral elements.

So most women RP men sleep with will be submissive, and warp the statistics a bit in 'their experience'.

SpaceWhiskey · 2015-03-15T20:09:10+00:00

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[deleted] · 2015-03-15T21:09:24+00:00

Because for the most part women are submissive in bed. I've had more women ask me to choke them than I have had ask me to go down on them.

SoldierGenerale · 2015-03-15T19:13:31+00:00

There are exceptions ofcourse but in general I've been with about 100 girls which makes for a nice little sample-group and out of these girls most of them wanted me to take charge.

None of them called me a bitch and pulled out a strap-on so I can only conclude women love being dominated.

DoctorFeel69 · 2015-03-15T22:16:50+00:00

I have a leading question to counter this leading question. Why do you believe it is so wrong for a man to be dominant?

[deleted] · 2015-06-20T12:03:05+00:00

Well I don't have a logical argument to prove sexually dominant women don't exist. I can only go by my own experience, but I've never, I repeat never, over the course of dozens of 'encounters' met a single woman even remotely into being dominant, yet all liked being submissive in some capacity.

Apart from that all I can do is compare this to countless polls showing most women like to be submissive, and what I hear/read from guys and girls alike about what they find sexy.

Also, I've checked out places like fetlife, and what I usually see on dommes pages is one of two things: pro dommes(it's a business and so it doesn't apply to this discussion), and women saying they want to be 'spoiled'(in other words, she's the kink version of a gold digger, and so again it doesn't apply). I don't see women talking about how they find it emotionally/sexually fulfilling to be dominant, if it's not accompanied by at least one of the above disqualifiers.

What I take from this is it seems women in general aren't into being dominant.

adrixshadow · 2015-03-15T21:02:00+00:00

Dominant women probably have some hormonal imbalance because I'm pretty sure domination is hormonally male.

The female gender is submissive.

[deleted] · 2015-03-15T21:51:23+00:00

Redpill talk in a lot of generalities. Dominant women aren't the common.

I am pretty sure that a dominant sexually insistent woman wouldn't be an issue.

exit_sandman · 2015-03-15T22:19:18+00:00

Females are not naturally submissive. This is all too easily proven. Take a look at any class of five year old children - the girls will dominate the boys, trying to tell them what to do (not necessarily a good thing).

It's just the way the world's history has been that females are held back as they grow up. But it's not their natural instinct to submit.

In the bedroom, submission is a kink. And it's fine. But it's not needed for women to have great sex. When you have great, intense sex where you even forget your own name or how to speak - you will forget whether you're male, female or anything else.

Title	Why do you believe all women want to be submissive in bed?
Author	Sansa_Culotte_
Upvotes	3
Comments	103
Date	March 15, 2015 7:06 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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