Are they truly unaware?

LeGrandDiableBlanc · 2015-02-11T18:08:30+00:00

Have you ever spaced out only to realize 30 seconds later you're staring at some girls ass or tits? You didn't even do it on purpose. Your Amygdala took over and you did shit without even thinking of it.

Women have their own versions: shit testing, smiling more... usually either some form of making herself seem available and some form of testing her prospect for suitability.

They are probably capable of realizing what they're doing in a generalized way (like you can realize after the fact that you automatically stared at some girls ass), but only if they take the time to think about their past interactions rationally, and are willing to set-aside any ego protecting thoughts. Women tend to suck at both of those, so many women are probably only aware enough of it as is necessary to rationalize it away.

I doubt any women knows what she's doing in the heat of the interaction, however.

Dubiousxy · 2015-02-11T13:31:04+00:00

I call bullshit. It's been proven multiple times that even on anonymous studies women will skew the results to make themselves sound more innocent/ better.

babydocnorman · 2015-02-11T14:09:07+00:00

The female rationalization hamster is a motherfucker. Always judge a woman by her actions, not her words. I bet she didn't act "friendly" with guys who weren't good looking, rich and/or popular.

NightwingTRP · 2015-02-11T14:05:37+00:00

Women lie... a lot. Even if we forgot the general TRP principle of "ignore what they say, observe what they do" then I'd still say: why would we believe the boy who cried wolf?

UrsusG · 2015-02-11T14:14:02+00:00

Of course they know full fucking well they're flirting, they're just lying about it for the survey.

Women/girls are socially smart and emotionally intelligent champions of lies and rationalizations, and their goals are at odds with yours.

darkstout · 2015-02-11T19:56:13+00:00

Women want no responsibility for their actions. They'll lie to themselves to maintain this belief.

ThePedanticF0x · 2015-02-11T15:10:12+00:00

This is but another rationalization, another excuse with purpose of deflection of accountability and maintenance of purity. A woman's purity is one of her most prized bargaining chips, of which they use to acquire the control over male labor, commitment, resources, protection, provision and whatever else they need but can't acquire themselves. Don't expect her not to lie to protect her purity, even to the extent of believing her own lies.

Invalidity · 2015-02-11T19:47:33+00:00

Women flirt not because they think it's friendly, they flirt because they know they can get a guy's attention. If one woman is flirting her ass off and no amount of shame from other women will get the other girl to stop flirting, soon all the girls in a given space will start flirting more.

They first try to shame and ostracize a member of their group (females) if that member tries to gain an advantage. If the shame works, the group dynamic is maintained. If the member doesn't fall in line, all others will follow suit.

They will write it off as being friendly because they do not want to be stigmatized as whoring for attention.

On the same scale is how beta males in a group will try to outperform other males when they see that one member of the dork squad is gaining more ground with a female than the rest of the pack.

cray-cray-cray · 2015-02-11T22:30:38+00:00

most of the time, they were sending out let's-get-it-on vibes to women who just thought they were being nice in a friendly way.

Not true.

1) women don't actually know they're flirting.

Women aren't flirting, in a lot of cases. Granted, a lot know they are dangling meat in front of lions.

Everyone has been trying to fuck them for their entire lives, without them clearly making themselves available. A lot of girls think random guys are nice to them because they are "friends."

On one hand, that makes them seem naive and stupid. OTOH, these are the girls who are more worthy of an LTR. They aren't out there purposely taking advantage of those poor idiots, and are genuinely surprised when they find out one of their "friends" has a thing for them.

To us logical types... that sounds too completely stupid, and will make us think... "Holy shit, that girl is oblivious to the world." But what do you want? Oblivious girl, or manipulative girl??

Sesa_Refum · 2015-02-12T03:20:22+00:00

Women are extremely socially saavy and know exactly what's going on in male-female interactions. It's just hamstering or outright lying.

Lt_Muffintoes · 2015-02-11T15:51:45+00:00

It's just another shit test. Even unconcious shit test are still tests.

You don't give away the answers to exams, so why would women give away the answers to their tests?

And really, even if they are unaware, it doesn't matter. All that matters is your response.

The way to fail this test is to get butthurt about it.

The ways to pass are

Don't give shit; she can't find someone better.
Tell her you find her behaviour unacceptable. She may discuss why she did it, but this is the first and final warning.
Downgrade her, soft next.

seeing-red- · 2015-02-11T21:44:30+00:00

Women don't understand themselves, it's their curse. It all starts with concealed ovulation, and their sexual behaviors are concealed even from themselves. I usually ask girls / call them out on it if it comes up: "I knew you liked me immediately because of how you were playing with your hair / clothes / looking at me longer than normal." Goes well with my style of game, and they usually don't even realize they are doing it.

kingofpoplives · 2015-02-11T21:53:49+00:00

these girls lied on an anonymous survey to protect the herd

This.

Women have a lot invested in their self image as good people. Good people don't lead other people on so they can use them for attention and favors, therefore this is not what women are doing.

blueWidow · 2015-02-12T05:52:34+00:00

Projection? They flirt to be liked but have no idea that it can be interpreted differently as interest.

blueWidow · 2015-02-12T05:55:51+00:00

There is no consensus. It would require girls to cooperate on a huge scale and being aware to do so. That is overly paranoid.

soccerplusaviation · 2015-02-11T15:01:50+00:00

OP, that article is hamstering at it's finest.

Title	Are they truly unaware?
Author	AK27ABROAD
Upvotes	5
Comments	28
Date	February 11, 2015 1:22 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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