I was originally attracted to mgtow because i felt worthless for not having been in a relationship ever in my life. also, there's no shortage of guys who will make you feel that way because you're not having sex like them. it's a manliness thing for them, which is complete bullshit.

anyway i browsed it for a long time, and truth be told, i still may go there once in a while. i also participated in the woman hating, which i regret. To be fair, there are some good things about mgtow. It cured me from feelings of worthlessness because, well, as the mgtow stories go, there are people in very, very bad relationships. In this respect, its like a window into a new world as i didn't have anyone in my personal life who told me these things. Also, as a man, it's a good thing to be aware of the possibilities of dating the wrong woman and of the broader societal trends. Also, things about hypergamy, monkey branching are all great to be aware of.

However, there's so much bullshit that goes on in those subs. for starters, they HATE the FDS sub. kinda funny, because there's a lot more similarities between those subs than most mgtow would like to admit. Also, IMO, the most stunning example of bullshit in those subs is the complete lack of self awareness when it comes to relationships. It's ALL her fault. Women are to blame, and men age like wine. Oh really asshole? you were the perfect angel, and it's ALL her? gotcha. Many of those dudes have no problem with porn, and fucking randos, and if you try to mention it, you're downvoted into oblivion. Hmmm, you say that women suck? you're literally destroying women's bonding mechanisms when you fuck randos, and then you wonder why she won't stick around? you honestly think that the attitudes you gleaned from porn has NO effect on how you treat women in real life? At least FDS GETS that. ALL women are bad? yep, that's right, ALL women from the beginning of time are bad, and no one EVER has had a good relationship with a woman. So the solution to this problem is the selfish pursuit of your own hobbies? i seriously doubt anyone on mgtow finds that to be a satisfactory solution, if they're being honest.

that said, i think those guys were just blinded by their terrible relationships, which i don't necessarily fault them for. life happens, no one is perfect, and we all have skeletons in our closets. but THIS is your solution to those problems? anyway, as for me, my brothers, sister, and parents all have good relationships with NONE of the shit going on that these mgtow have had in their relationships. I'm definitely NOT going to be believing that all women are shit, when experience proves there's lots of good women in my life to look up to.

Sorry for the long rant, but after a long time of mgtow, i've had it.