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[–]abdada48 points49 points50 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I love that women are an indicator of a man losing his way.
I trust women to be that indicator.
You throw your life away for the sake of someone else, fuck yeah the world should shit on you.
Fuck you for being born the better gender that doesn't automatically hit The Wall and can make every day better than the last and you complain about it?
[–]vagbutters7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
you complain about it?
Losers will always complain about doing actual work that betters their circumstances. Losers always want life to be comfortable and things to be handed to them. With loser males, this manifests as being overweight/scrawny manchild who lets his woman boss him around and take advantage of him.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The fact is I am none of those things. I literally look like a toned male model plus I have a law degree. That doesn't make this any lesson painful or easier to accept.
[–]arkonum8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Being a loser is not defined by those things, being a loser is defined by his inability to control his emotions and control his circumstances. It doesn't matter how painful or easy it is to accept, it matters what you do with it.
Losers complain, men carry on.
[–]JoDoStaffShow2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lol I have a law degree and I'm ripped, I'm a man... well than stop acting like a bitch.
[–]circlhat1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not true, sometimes women are crazy, we are basically saying women are beacons of light and truth,
[–]abdada1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Especially when women are crazy. The more irrational they are, the more I trust their hypergamous instincts.
[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is borderline autistic logic. Not only have you strawmanned the kid, but whether one follows the other or one should follow the other are two different questions. Reality is reality. You've followed with a naturalistic fallacy.
[–]abdada0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Where's the strawman?
He brought up a strawman story himself, I responded in kind by pointing the finger at him, not the strawman he created.
[–]redolas30 points31 points32 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
The stages are: Shock, Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Testing, Acceptance.
You're in Depression. Just two more to go.
[–]TRPBackpacker points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It sounded more like anger to me and a bit of trying to convince others that his world view is the correct one. So between denial and anger?
[–]ArkAngelEV3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The whole "pain" thing gives off depression.
[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Depression is the longest one too lol
[–]ArkAngelEV5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah. Or you can be like some african boy drinking camel pee and struggling to live. Enjoy the depression, lift; catch up on some netflix and relax with friends.
[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's why most men violently reject it. It sucks to realize that if you put the happiness of the woman you love above your own, she'll shit on you for it. It sucks to realize that nobody really cares about you but only what value you bring. It sucks to realize that the world will only give you what you take from it with force.
But it's also liberating and empowering to know that as a man, you have so much control over your own life. No, you can't be absolutely anything if you just want it badly enough like we were told as kids, but you can come close. The only person capable of stopping you from achieving your goals is you.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I can totally understand the rejection, it's fucking painful to view reality correctly.
[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Man that shit is inhumane
It is precisely human. It's these behaviors that have optimized the gene pool such that we are by far the most superior creature on this planet. Even our humanoid genetic cousins didn't stand a chance against us.
Celebrate it. Celebrate by becoming a strong, masculine male. Then celebrate it some more by cutting more tuna than a sushi chef.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Not all selection is towards a tangible improvement.
Look at the peacock with a tail so large it actually hinders its movement. A tail created by seemingly run away sexual selection by peahens.
Look at the red queen effect where predator and prey evolve in lockstep and neither ever gains an advantage over another.
Natural selection by evolution is partly a misnomer. Evolutionary biologists are quick to point out that evolution in this sense only means change, and not necessarily improvement.
Edit: should be
Evolution by natural selection
[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Look at the peacock with a tail so large it actually hinders its movement.
Yet, somehow those feathered cocksuckers still wander through my property fucking shit up.
Anyway, the sum of it all is what matters. Humans. Do Never Test.
[–]1SeemedGood-4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
It is precisely human.
Nah, it isn't. We're more than mere animals and we're here to evolve individually in addition to evolving as a species. Our individual (and thus species) evolution requires the expansion of our consciousness and overcoming the innate sub-conscious behaviors we no longer need in order to establish new ones that better fit that which we are evolving into. Women are lagging us in this evolutionary process generally, and that's OK - it's our job to lead. But let's not let their innate animal behaviors define humanity for us. Rather, let's understand them react accordingly and in doing so force them to evolve their levels of consciousness.
So, yeah, women's unconscious cruelty is inhumane and we shouldn't tolerate it. Let's lead the way by reacting and withdrawing our actual love and support until they learn to expand their consciousness, rid themselves of their pre-historic baggage, and actually love other people so that we can move on and evolve into something greater than we are.
[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
we're here to evolve individually
You do not evolve. You improve. Your genes are fixed and you'll pass those on as they are now. If you improve enough, your genes will spread more than others.
[–]1SeemedGood-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Not only can one evolve individually, it's actually the main purpose of our lives in this form. That's not something taught in most schools largely because those who run most schools don't want the general public to know about individual evolution - much as most schools don't teach the true nature of our monetary system because those who run them don't want the general public to know about that either. Nonetheless it is possible to evolve beyond the semi-conscious state in which the vast majority of us exist into something quite different and substantially more powerful.
Your genes are only part of what determine who you are. They are just an instruction set that contains myriad possibilities for expression. What determines which possibilities are expressed from that instruction set? Part of the evolutionary process which we can undergo if we choose not only answers that question (if you don't already know) but also allows degrees of control of genetic expression among other things.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're right. Well worded. I can't put it into words, but I understand what you mean. Recently purchased David Hawkins 'Power vs Force' and 'Letting Go of Suffering'. A great example is Obama. He went through this evolving paradigm from 18-24. He repeatedly states throughout interviews and his biography, he spent two years just reading everything he could get his hands on whilst at Columbia. I have a feeling neuroplasticity takes over if you don't go through this initial phase in early adulthood.
[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
evolve
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
allows degrees of control of genetic expression
Ok, here yes, you have a point. We absolutely can affect gene expression. This is scientific fact.
.. but you cannot pass on genes you don't have. You cannot change the genes you pass. All you can do is improve your opportunities to pass your genes.
[–]1SeemedGood2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
Well the most accurate denotation would be "to roll out" or "unfurl" if you want to be technical, but since we (the English speakers of the world) borrowed it from the Latin it has gained both an official scientific connotation of "offgassing / radiating heat" and the vulgar scientific connotation of "developing gradually into a more complex organism/structure/state" with a further (and even less accurate) connotation of "inter-generational development." I assume that you refer to the 3rd (and least accurate) connotation.
All you can do is improve your opportunities to pass your genes.
I don't think you are familiar with the extent of our actual capacity to change on an individual level, and yes, gradually develop into a substantially more complex and advanced state/organism, and further yes, even do so inter-generationally on an individual level.
[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I assume that you refer to the 3rd (and least accurate) connotation.
It's 2016, not old tyme England.
I don't think you are familiar with the extent
You are grossly overestimating how many of those changes make it into gametes. In fact, the ovum is known to edit incoming gametes to clean them out. Why is this important? The last thing a zygote needs is to start out of the gate with an accumulation of DNA damage. We'd all die of cancer in our teens, if not soon.
[–]1SeemedGood0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
...a fact which does nothing to increase the accuracy of the last and least accurate connotation.
Your DNA only governs the most base and most ephemeral part of what constitutes you. By only addressing the potential for evolution from that limited perspective, you will remain ignorant of your full potential.
[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Jesus christ, are we lawyering this now?
[–]1SeemedGood0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No, just being accurate - which is usually called for when you challenge someone's command of vocabulary.
[–]Randomshortdude points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Good, this is the beginnings.
After a while you'll begin to realize that it is still a man's world at the end of the day. And that you aren't completely helpless and at the mercy of the women you love.
Yes, hypergamy is real. But that's what the sexual strategy on here is for - to make sure you still come out the winner. Don't lose sight of that fact.
You've learned how the game is really played. Now figure out how to win.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The only way sexual strategy works sufficiently is if you have your shit together financially (a few million) or if you choose a chick much much lower on the attractive scale in comparison to your SMV..
You really can't win this game as a top guy if you don't have new money.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A better mindset would be "how do I make those few millions?".
Don't try to change the rules, it's already there and worrying means you have to suffer twice. Instead, live to find a solution to the obstacle before you.
Edit: grammar :l
[–]mattstanton6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A billionaire once told my dad "Start today. By tomorrow, you'll be twice as smart as the person who didn't start."
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Trust me i'm already on my way. Read over 80 books on this shit in the past 1.5 years. PM if you're interested. Starting a tech company in London atm.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Are you sad because of women, or because you blue pill dream of happily ever after has been destroyed forever? Think about it carefully. You are mourning your loss of innocence, not the horrors of women.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The world told me to be innocent. That's the problem. The world told me that if something went wrong it was my fault.
Well it wasn't my fucking fault because external factors controlled my every opinion and move. A child merely listens to his parents, teachers and peers and regurgitates the same shit. They're just as stupid as the rest of society!
We were raised to be obedient. Now I have power and that shit's scary.
[–]metalhead40 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha what fucking cities do you fags live In that you think you need millions of dollars to win at life? Sad people.
I know I'll never be super rich, fuck most people will never be rich.
The amount of money I have has never been a factor when fucking hot chicks.
[–]ikigaiaru10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Relax. TRP is a general framework, but it's not gospel.
AWALT does not mean that every women will leave you in every situation for ever and ever. It means human beings have general tendencies and working within an accurate and realistic framework is best.
Just be the best person you can be, for you. That's it. You can build a loyal family with a wonderful wife with children, it's just hard now in the west so don't get too many hopes up. It's possible, but it's a needle in a haystack. TRP is not saying that every girl will do the same thing every time, it's just saying to be realistic about reality and nature.
Second, having children is wonderful. Bringing life into this world is a great blessing. Just be sure to have the right environment for it (probably moving to another country). Plus, you have no idea of the future. It could be shit or great, but we are not in the apocalypse and there is still plenty of joy to be had in this world (and also realizing that you don't NEED women to find that joy is a joy itself...). The world is harsh but it's not THAT bad.
[–]Gay4Pancakes points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Stop loving them. Just like them, and never enough to let yourself get hurt by them. That's the key. Learn your own limitations.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
I wish I could love them that's the point, but I can't. I always see the thousand cock stare. An American bitch told me she fucked two random guys in Paris via tinder, just because of the 'idea' of fucking in Paris. It could have been any guy.. it fucking disgusts me.
[–]IronandTears5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
An American bitch told me she fucked two random guys in Paris via tinder
Understand that you are still processing this stuff right. If you had a shot at two French girls in Paris you would be all over it without a second thought.
it fucking disgusts me.
Don't be a hypocrite. Women are women, they like sex as much as you do. AWALT. Believing in fairytales is for children. Live a life for you, not someone else. You will be much happier when you can accept things as they are and fucking dominate it anyway.
Edited for punctuation.
What annoys me is that they were random tinder dudes whom were just there at the right time and right place for her to swipe right'
Bitch didn't even know them. She said something that alluded to the fact that she may have been raw-dogged too..
It wouldn't even annoy me if she knew them and if she didn't act like a fucking damsel'
[–]IronandTears6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've fucked women I didn't know before. I bet if plonked a solid 8 down in front of you and she said go for it, you would fuck her without a second thought. People like to fuck, men like to think they are porn stars, women like to pretend they are innocent virgins.
From where I am looking at this it seems like you had a fairy tale idea of this chick in particular or women generally and it's causing you angst as you find RP truths all around you in the way she acted.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I have fucked women I didn't know before. I get it. How can I look into her eyes knowing this bitch has deep throated fifteen different cocks by the age of 22?
My Tinder is literally pinging with hundreds of women wanting me to fuck them. I have over 300 matches of 8's and 9s. I can literally get laid whenever I want because I fit the archetype of 'the high SMV guy'. Chicks stare at me daily in society, they get anxious around me all the time. Hang on my every word.
I wanted the dream dude, I wanted the girl to say you're the guy and there's nobody like you. It turns out they are the same as men who fuck anything if the timing is correct, if their self-esteem is low enough one day and they need to be told they're okay just the way they are by having a cock in their mouth'.
[–]1Jax777892 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just realize that what they say or do is nothing but the result of an hypergamous calculation on their part. There is nothing genuine. Get a dog if you want true love. Women can only love children.
That means that every biological being is there just to get the best of you and throw you away when shit gets tough..
[–]PowerVitamin5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
She's supposed to test you. Hierarchy isn't set. Women want it to be set. They really do, but if you falter, she will test you.
You need to internalize, she's not yours, it's your turn. Nature can be normal and beautiful if you accept it that way. Believe me, the RP world is much more beautiful than the placated world of the blue pill and intellectual slavery.
She's never mine and it's just my turn.
[–]nuffsaid666 points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I actually felt a kind of relief and satisfaction after "waking up" to this reality. Like everything suddenly made a lot of sense and i wasnt the only one thinking these things after all. All of it, how women behave, how men behave, how they interact, it all aligned into one unified idea that explains all these behaviors i've been observing through the years but couldn't put into words. It was like a great "Aha! I knew it!" moment.
This doesn't make it any less fucked. We can see the patterns play out objectively like an outsider 'god' watching them live in their own subjective realities and UNDERSTANDING it all.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But if you build a life with someone, if you give her your word that you'll do anything humanely possible to protect her and the family and she still fucks with you.. Man that shit is inhumane. That shit should be a human rights violation.
Human rights like this are only applicable to women, as they are sobbing in court saying "I took his money for twenty years, it's inhuman that he is free now, I deserve alimony!"
"Building a life with someone" is the myth that drives the exploitation of men. Get over it and free yourself.
[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Once your eyes are open they can never be closed again. The only thing that I trust is that people will act in their own self interest. I love no one and no thing on this earth except myself. Eventually the "pain don't hurt." You'll be fine.
They have been open since I was a young boy and that's why I'm so angry. I was always aware but everyone in society would tell me oh no you're not correct, that's not the way the world works.
Turns out it's exactly how the world works. Predatory and prey dynamic through and through.
[–]yummyluckycharms2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Is it painful - yes - probably at first. But afterwords its liberating and feels so good. You wanna know what hurts - take a look at a guy who has been married for 5 or 10 years. The pleading for a mercy kill in their eyes is what gets me......its amazing they can continue to live in such pain
'You wanna know what hurts - take a look at a guy who has been married for 5 or 10 years'
I SEE THIS DAILY! Supermarkets are full of them. What choice do they have? They can't all be rich wealthy tech entrepreneurs with side chicks at their disposal..
[–]yummyluckycharms0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Being happy and full of life doesnt mean being super wealthy and having a great job. it certainly helps though! But in all honest, the people who are genuinely happy are the ones that have the ability to find happiness in their job, have no debt, and nothing keeping them rooted to a particular place. That kind of freedom is truly precious
[–]TheYoungOwl_5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your measure as man is the value you provide to the world, you are the captain of your ship. Anyone who wants you as their leader will submit to you. Breaking loyalty means a kick to the curb. Quit being a fucking pussy.
[–]-_PM_me_your_nudes_- points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
To appease ... some bullshit biological tendency that you can't control is retarded.
Why? What are we besides our desires?
We have evolved consciously to the point where we can decide whether or not to bring children into this world..
You could decide not to have sex, too. But you still will for no reason other than, you want to.
Eventually you'll become indifferent. The realization settles in and acceptance follows. After a while, it won't even bother you. If anything, watching from a safe distance provides entertainment when you see it unfold.
[–]fenghsui1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Know what hurts? Not having your girl attracted to you cuz you lack the secret powers of dread game.
[–]riverraider691 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm starting to think maybe there's a bigger thing beneath all this. 20k years ago we were hunting game, came home to a tribe with plenty of hotties, fucked one if we bagged something good, maybe hook up and help raise a kid for a few years, always help raise other kids because they're cute little buggers plus hell, one of them could be mine, who can remember what I did 7 years ago? Had mates, had girls, had family.
What do we have now?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You are just going through anger and depression. It's normal, it will pass. Focus on money for a while. I remember when my marriage ended, 2 kids, decades together, how could she, is this real? Two months later I am sliding my 40 something cock into the ass of a 20 something Swedish model. It cuts both ways. The same weaknesses which make them leave their husbands makes them fuck guys with, looks, status or game (hopefully all three) on a first date. They can make you feel like you are in heaven or hell if you let them.
'They can make you feel like you are in heaven or hell if you let them.'
I intend to slide in many Swedish bitches.
My brain is processing a ton of information right now. Read over 80 books in 1.5 years and man the world just isn't what I thought it was. Law school didn't even prepare me for this shit. It laid the foundation.
Fuck that bitch and thanks for this!
[–]NakedAndBehindYou1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When you internalise it fully, you feel sick.
This isn't fully internalizing it. It's just the first part of the anger phase.
if you give her your word that you'll do anything humanely possible to protect her and the family and she still fucks with you..
You sound beta as fuck right here mate.
Its the same thing when trying to answer the question of why we sre here, whats the point of life. Usually reaching the conclusion of there is no point of life, we all die is scary and disconcerning. It used to put a pit in my stomach and make me feel sick.
But Ive come to terms with it. I cant control it so why worry about it? It sucks but it is what it is, whether you accept it or not.
It sucks but we've all been there, buddy. Taking the red pill is painful. Even more so when you get philosophical and realize all of this is meaningless, and if there is something outside of this, it's not knowable or in our control. So you create meaning to live. Read some Frankl or Sartre.
As for society and women, unconditional love doesn't exist and relationships are very power focused. Unconditional love didn't exist even between parents and their kids. If you had some semblance of it, you're in the top 2%. I had a very dysfunctional family with rampant abuse and a sociopathic cousin who tried to kill me when I was a kid. Motherly love? I used to resent my mother for being unemotional and cold, but her life was a mess, too. At least we had food on the table and at least we lived in the West. I had lots of issues growing up, but I am proud of myself for surviving when people in my position I've known have become hardcore heroin addicts and criminals. I looked at all my close brushes with death- actually having been resuscitated once and in a coma once- and am grateful to be alive. As if life was a tough father- my own father was very beta and though I love him, he never taught me any of the lessons I needed to learn- I got into a flipover accident last summer and have an unusable left hand because of it, not to mention tens of thousands in medical costs for it. But I know I'm lucky and in the top 5% of people. Your average male in Syria now has lost many family members and possibly killed a few people in conditions he never asked for. Reflect on that and feel blessed.
Taking the red pill sucks but it's liberating. It frees you from the burden of childish expectations that will only lead to more suffering and hardship. Even Buddhists say life is nonstop suffering and that suffering comes from expectations. Take in reality, mourn the world you thought existed, and become stronger. You're already stronger than 1/2 of men out there by virtue of not kidding yourself any more.
[–]Unfiltered_Soul0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You need to kill that woman that is growing inside of you. It is the way of the world and you have to be ruthless to it when the time comes. Shrug your shoulders and move on. Pay attention to signs next time.
[–]cuntrolbot-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The fact that you guys bring children into this world knowing what you know about the world.
Go ahead. Don't reproduce. The next generation's work will be that much harder, since your RP tendency genes were eliminated. Thanks for nothing.
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