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westnblue · 2019-06-30T02:38:39+00:00

Thankyou for your sacrifice

Vaxel00 · 2019-06-30T02:41:32+00:00

Stand your ground, she'll respect you more if you don't take her shit and just do what you want. Treat her like a child, would you let your child tell you what to do and would you give your child everything they want?

strongandhappy · 2019-06-30T02:42:16+00:00

That's what made mgtow/redpill click immediately for me. I've never known any woman who really knew how to connect, or take a genuine interest in a man. I look at all my married friends and family and it's so fucking clear, the man provides the financial AND emotional support of the family. Good luck man, hopefully it's easier to deal with knowing the truth and that there's a lot of people who understand. Thinking you're the crazy one is the worst.

Tex2572 · 2019-06-30T02:40:48+00:00

Hey bro I'm sure you know this but don't feel bad about that kayak.

DangZagnut · 2019-06-30T03:26:25+00:00

You have my sympathies. Not that this will make you feel better, but your story may save a young man’s life who reads it.

Those who make the ultimate sacrifice are heroes.

2019-06-30T02:39:24+00:00

Damn dude. Reading this hurts. I'm putting up a front so my friends leave me alone but I'm never dating again.

Maximum_Afternoon · 2019-06-30T03:31:13+00:00

Sadly, this is more evidence to my hypothesis that the divorce rate would be a LOT higher if the consequences were lower.

BrizzLatency · 2019-06-30T02:43:50+00:00

Damn bruv I'm sorry you're going through something like this it seems rather scary but I tank you for reminding me that it's not a good idea to marry.

And I've heard similar things and have felt similar things in terms of opening up to women and then you get destroyed emotionally from it because they essentially know your weaknesses and exploit you on it if they're evil enough.

I took me a long while to recover from that and it wasnt just my ex it was my friends and family too, so I dont open up anymore I look inward if that makes sense.

I feel like its helped me immensely but I still have such a long way to go.

Regencyflw · 2019-06-30T02:52:26+00:00

Try to move to another state that is the most divorce friendly. Tell her you found a better job in the new state and quit your current job. Obviously don't tell her what you're doing. Sell your house, hide your assets/money in cash or offshore accounts, and then as soon as you become residents of the divorce-friendly state, hand her the papers.

Find a new job, start a new life

Dmapguy · 2019-06-30T03:24:25+00:00

This hurts me to read. Yet another unhappy union that a man is forced to stay in because of the threat of financial ruin. My question is if you live this miserable existence how are there any "good days"?

MiddleAgedMGTOW · 2019-06-30T03:03:18+00:00

You’re screwed. You have my sympathy brother.

Alexius_von_Meinong · 2019-06-30T06:51:34+00:00

The kayak is a good start. If divorce isn't an option, take your kayak out on long trips alone on the water. Let that be your fortress of solitude.

nkid299 · 2019-06-30T02:48:54+00:00

You're right Larry, don't open up your weakness (emotion) to them or they will own your operations manual.

Me? I started a small business and gave it to her, with myself receiving 51% of the profits, but with no ownership, control or liability. I did this on purpose because I hate that line of work, I wanted the freedom to leave in the future without fear of alimony, and I got tired of her droning on about another sick relative needing some financial help. Kids are grown and my finances are in great shape for early retirement. Most of those assets have no SS# attached to them and will not be brought up in family court.

Dopeboy108 · 2019-06-30T03:09:08+00:00

Jesus man. Stand your ground a bit. I know it's hard, really I get it. You need to learn how to do some gaslighting and manipulating. I know that's "wrong". But next time she starts on you just freak the fuck out. Trust me on this, let her go for a bit then eventually you guys will "make up" and have a great lay. I've been in relationships my whole life I'm not saying i'm some great boyfriend or anything but I prefer being single man. Reading this really makes my blood boil lol.

deadBeefCafe2014 · 2019-06-30T03:09:19+00:00

Not sure what state you are in or how many kids you have, but my divorce was a pretty significant highlight of my adult life.

The odds of me getting in a relationship drop with each passing day and I’m fine with that!

user_miki · 2019-06-30T07:22:50+00:00

Listen your chance is to make her dump you.Try faking mental problem or emotional problems.Women don't like to deal with this shit.You have many choices of mental symptoms to choose from.Cry out of the blue,smash things in the house,start singing our of the blue,play crazy things listen music louder in the house take a dump in the middle of the house,make her life miserable.Better check a book on how to play this in credible way,If you play this long enough she will let you go clean.There is always a way out.

danimsmba · 2019-06-30T08:35:15+00:00

You know whats funny OP? Is that she is eventually going to fuck you over and ruin your life. And you still wont do anything about it because of this unnatural fear you have of her brother and uncle.

Best you can do now is going quiet and doing the things you want to do. Also no man should fear another man the way you fear those two.

liberteus · 2019-06-30T02:38:57+00:00

Your username, is it a clue about the quality of your married sex life?

bitpuppycoin · 2019-06-30T03:17:30+00:00

Stacking enough cash what I would do is I would create a bitcoin wallet and start put my cash in there and take it with me and not allow her to see what I’m doing in that regard

[deleted] · 2019-06-30T06:52:43+00:00

Hey brother, I will include you in my prayers. I’m sorry you are having such a difficult time. It’s impossible to satisfy the she-beast. Like the other gentleman said, move to a divorce friendly state like Nevada via excuse of a better paying job. After that, divorce her ASAP! It’s not fair you are going through this but hey, life isn’t fair. Stay strong and don’t give up!

Harrystroe · 2019-06-30T12:01:06+00:00

there is another option you didn t think about it because as you said and repeat, " I will go bankrupt, etc. etc." This option come a bit late, it is in 2 stages. First stage assuming your wife doesn t know about all finance altough from your post she knows, transfering a good portion of your savings into a new account into a relative since you can t use a fake name to open somewhere an account and send some money there, or short story try to find a way to get some money so even with a divorce it won t be touched. Than get back your life divorcing and gtfo. The second stage which requires more in depth mentality and strong devotion to the cause from you, is...to start your own fucking life by divorcing, get broke, let her anything and get the leftovers and be FREE. You are not old enough and no one is old enough at least till the last breath, therefor, take the hit, and start your own life again. You will lose things, I repeat .."things", but what you will gain is beyond your imagination even. Check all the post around about mgtow realizing how good is to be you and yourself detached from the jail you are in it right now. You will lose things that you will be able to have them again, but most important you will regain YOUR FREEDOM. and my friend, from that point, broke or not broke, you will rise again as you, and you will start again the climb but as a free man. I can not stress you enough to understand that all this financial you struggle about I am 100% sure you ll have it back being free, but if you stay in this situation, that freedom you read about it here, it will remain a forgotten dream, it will ruin you inside, and when you ll be old, the regrets you ll have will consume you to death.

2019-06-30T03:59:47+00:00

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MafiosoMGTOW · 2019-06-30T05:17:31+00:00

It's never cheaper to keep her. Get your freedom back, get your self respect back.

teelolws · 2019-06-30T06:47:53+00:00

Long sorry short, divorce isn't really an option. I do love her on the good days, and in my state if I divorced her or she divorced me, I'd be so goddamn broke it wouldn't be funny.

Ever seen the movie The Whole Nine Yards?

e7IDestiny · 2019-06-30T10:05:24+00:00

its sad as a guy you want so hard to be happy with a woman but in the end,all of them will ruin your life,glad I discovered MGTOW before doing something like that,wish you luck and I hope you divorce

jimjames1967 · 2019-06-30T13:00:03+00:00

Meh, I'm divorced and broke as fuck. Being poor is not the burden you think it is. I do a ton of activities which are free or damn near free. I fish, ride my bike, work out, read books, hike, walk dogs at the animal shelter, play with my kids, go swimming in abandoned quarries, skate on public rinks and drink beer with buddies. My life is far fuller than it was as a married man and limited funds do not slow me down; if anything, they make me more imaginative. Also, one day I won't owe any alimony or child support and then I'll have tons of free cash. God speed. One life to live my friend.

[deleted] · 2019-06-30T05:16:16+00:00

YOU ARE FUCKED.

WolverineDLogan · 2019-06-30T07:25:43+00:00

Women are incapable of love they are demons.

icbint · 2019-06-30T07:47:10+00:00

It’s never too late to make the life you want

SomeGhostingGuy · 2019-06-30T07:52:13+00:00

And these are are the "good religious marriages" trad-cucks never get tired talking about....

selfism_mike · 2019-06-30T08:30:11+00:00

Stand your ground, but do it with the attitude that you enjoy the fight and don't dread it.

Buy a second canoe and tell her that her hostility made you worried she will do something to the first.

They hate to see us happy, so if we happily fight with them they might not fight anymore.

MarriedZombie · 2019-06-30T09:29:33+00:00

I think what sent my ex over the edge was when I rolled up on a brand new kawasaki Z800..😂

[deleted] · 2019-06-30T09:39:54+00:00

The best way to help yourself now that you are married is to get the Rollo Tomassi's book, 'The Rational Male'. It is a gender dynamic book rooted in evolutionary psychology. The guy who wroted it penned most of the terms MGTOW actually use, even though he isn't MGTOW. He is brilliant, even if he disagrees with MGTOW, and he gives the best advice on how to deal with women. https://therationalmale.com/

AutisticCyborg · 2019-06-30T09:50:18+00:00

novhaku · 2019-06-30T12:16:14+00:00

Never tell any of your problem to women. It's not even about them losing attraction; who gives a shit about that, she's not worth it anyway. But they WILL use it as bullets the next time she wants something/you're having an argument/whatever and rub salt in the wound as much as possible, no matter HOW terrible it makes you feel (and of course if you do the same thing because respect is something you EARN, YOU'RE the asshole). If anything didn't go well in your life (as an example, past relationships, etc) she WILL bring it up when she wants to in order to make you feel like shit no matter how much it traumatized you. It could have been an experience that almost killed you, they give absolutely no fuck, they'll use it to psychologically destroy you as much as needed, which is a lot worse than just her "losing attration". Fees fees and wanting to hurt you at any price instead of solving things like a responsible adult > respect, loyalty and self-control.

So yeah. Never open up to a woman, never tell them about what happened to you in your life, never tell them anything about you that is even a little bit risky. Society is trying to push the idea that we aren't doing it because we're "ashamed of doing so" (ironically enough, they do so in order to SHAME us. Yeah that's how it is) but no. We're doing it for survival. Don't give a gun to someone that will certainly try to shot you one day or another, has bad self-control, and has a victim card she can uses at any time.

While I disagree with your choice heavily and we've got a lot of people thinking that we're relationship_advice 2 here lately, your experience, specifically as a married man, will show lurkers that are going through an hard time that no, when we say this it's not just frustrated incels (lulz) ranting, we know what we're talking about and married people think the same but just can't say it loudly. So I thank you a lot for this post, hopefully it'll save some people.

AbsoluteSereniti · 2019-06-30T12:18:40+00:00

This post strikes close to home. My last ex. I opened up to her once and holy fucking shit she used that as a weapon in all our arguments to belittle me. While the amount of crap she told me about herself, I never ONCE used those against her in any situation. Mistakes were made. Truth hurts, but men are told to hide their emotions for a reason. It’s because women who hears them will cut you up like mince meat. The only people worthy telling your weakness to is a bro. Why do you think women hate each other so much? It’s because they cut each other up emotionally. Sure men fight with fists, but an emotional wound/psychological is much more impactful than the odd bruise or 2.

kaydawg23 · 2019-06-30T14:26:10+00:00

It takes a lot of a man let alone a person to assess his own situation and acknowledge the desperate circumstances he finds himself in yet look to try prevent others from falling into the same trap.

OP I would like you to know that your sacrifice will not have been for nothing if myself and the fellows I've shared with about MGTOW have learnt anything is that we as men are better off pursuing our own ambitions, dreams and goals without the old, outdated social, religions expectations.

Your sacrifice will lead more women towards freedom

ncarolina66 · 2019-06-30T16:10:45+00:00

Dude, use that Kayak, but a fishing pole and fishing license and get out into nature...if you have kids bring them along to bond without the wife.

It won't solve your problems but it might bring your blood pressure down and save you from a heart attack over living like you do. Taking up meditation might also help a bit.

Also, you need to start putting cash or gold away somewhere safe, since one day she will be the one that files for the divorce...get ahead of it now while you still can. (assuming you won't take the advice of other's here and simply disappear to another country). Is the French Foreign Legion still around?

Good Luck!

Mecha_Hobbit · 2019-06-30T18:21:45+00:00

It only gets worse. She is ramping up. IF you are thinking like this then get out and enjoy the precious few years left you have on earth.

[deleted] · 2019-06-30T18:58:19+00:00

Cheers for the reinforcing mate.

brhard17 · 2019-06-30T20:45:36+00:00

Your last sentence is incredible!

_crimson__ · 2019-06-30T22:37:14+00:00

Yeah man I know where you're at. Thanks for the reminder. Never envy a married man. Shed a tear or two for the latest sucker to get engaged to princess. The glam wedding photos will make a nice memorial for the freedom and potential lost, if nothing else, before boredom, fat, routine and screaming brats become daily purgatory.

Yashugan00 · 2019-07-01T09:36:35+00:00

"divorce isn't really an option"

Yeah it is and she'll tell you when she's ready, usually when you're at your lowest so she can kick the ribs.

ultimately though, you will be free while she has the rest of her years to regret it.

Rafique678 · 2019-07-01T11:08:03+00:00

Im quite curious. How much does your wife control you?

krenovinspired · 2019-06-30T16:03:36+00:00

You know what, dude? You're a damn coward. You think being broke, losing everything is the end of the world? It isn't. It actually sets you free. I've been so broke, I didn't know where my next meal was coming from. Yes, really. Lost my house. My job. Had to totally reinvent myself. In my 40's. And you want to sit there and cry about an uncle and brother-in-law like they're some sort of gods. Bullshit. You're using them as an excuse to be a fucking coward. You're miserable, and you will die miserable. You know it. We all know it. Your "things", "money" are useless. Because you're miserable. And soft.

GTFO of the "marriage". Kick her to the curb. Take your licks, and I guarantee you'll come out the backside stronger, more secure, and far wiser. Or be a miserable coward who comes on here and complains. Your choice. There are two bitches in your marriage. Stop being the #2 bitch.

JohnGalt28 · 2019-06-30T06:35:23+00:00

Umm. . . What? How about instead of giving up on her you express your frustrations with how she is treating you. I had this friend who really hated his mom because she always dictated his life. One day she is texting him over and over again about the stuff he needs to do. I look over and he texts back, “Okay, that’s fine.” Are you kidding me? If you want a person to stop doing what they’re doing, you have to tell them to stop. Otherwise, how will they know it really bothers you?

Title	Posting on a somewhat anonymous account
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Date	June 30, 2019 2:33 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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