Holding frame amidst a shit test shit storm

JcHgvr · 2017-10-19T10:54:13+00:00

Most men make sense.

Aka "I can control them with my pussy or threats of leaving."

Ahoymaboy · 2017-10-19T05:31:24+00:00

You held your frame, and you're not afraid to lose her. I'd say that's good. Remain indifferent to any outcome, and if she leaves, you'll find someone better. If she continues with the shit tests, soft next.

MattyAnon · 2017-10-19T17:17:18+00:00

She knew she fucked up

While it is indeed a shit test and you did well with it, OP ... it's also indicative of where her head is at, and it's not good. She's not in a good place, not happy, and emotionally too dependent on you.

K_J_K · 2017-10-19T06:04:57+00:00

"And that's what disgusts me. That you will be fine no matter what happens."

The amount of stupid in that statement. She sounds really insecure about where she seems to think she stands with you.

Ananonguy88 · 2017-10-19T17:26:37+00:00

I'm with you man. I left my wall hitter plate today because of her shit test, staying would mean basically submitting to her terms.

All was orchestrated ideally to make me confess to her and agree that we are in LTR which I never wanted to nor planned to.

She invited me and all was sweet until we started foreplay. She played dead fish and ignored me completely. I've asked if all is alright and then: - you suck at bed and you are selfish in sex - I feel bad with you - you have no cash, no car - you never plan to marry - why I'm even wasting my time with you - I've given you so many chances and you've fucked them all up - all my exes were better than you in every aspect

and final one: - YOU ARE THE WEIRDEST GUY BECAUSE YOU NEVER REACT TO ME BEING MEAN, THAT MEANS YOU DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ME OR YOU ARE FUCKING MASOCHIST (basically couldn't understand me holding frame every time she was a bitch)

She stated that the only way for me to redeem these qualities is through committing to her, starting to be serious and becoming her boyfriend AND SHE WILL EVEN HELP ME IMPROVE TO BE A BETTER BOYFRIEND.

Basically wall hitter alpha widow blackmailing you for LTR. What's worse, without TRP I'd probably fall for this bullshit, but thanks to it I could see it all clearly.

You know my answer dudes by this moment. The journey continues.

MadDoe · 2017-10-19T05:49:59+00:00

Agreed, good frame control, she's already expecting shit from because shes done her chores and feels obligated for something in reward. Of course, no one gives a shit about your hard work, only the end product. That was a barrage you handle very well.

Jacob_exe · 2017-10-19T06:52:16+00:00

I mean apart from frame, logically who wants to stay with someone unhappy? Try to help her, but there's only so much you can do before you should tell them to just leave.

You're good OP, let her cool down and then rationally talk about it, sounds like she had a sudden realization all at once and freaked the fuck out

Hillarysdilddo_2016 · 2017-10-19T20:13:25+00:00

You would spend the rest of your life wondering what happened to me. I promise you.

You know how many times I've heard this or variants of it:

I'm the best thing you ever had.

.

you'll be old and alone.

Lol

And that's what disgusts me. That you'll fine no matter what happens.

yup. They sure do "hate" that. I've also heard that line verbatim. By "hate" I mean it generates massive tingles. Watch what they do not what they say.

Edit: kudos on your handling of the situation. It's genuine. Meaning you care for her, but if she is so unhappy then it's best she moves on and finds her happiness. Good for you OP.

azsb1 · 2017-10-19T12:13:23+00:00

My ex girlfriend was exactly like this. Whenever I held frame in a similar way to the OP, She'd say things like "See, you can't even fight for me, you don't even care" and much, much more infuriating shit that I'm glad I don't remember. But she would do this constantly just to see if I'd fight for her, not thinking about how silly it would be to threaten to leave so many times, and each time just admit that she only did it to see if I'd fight for her, even though I didn't, and she stayed every time...

tuner_metronome · 2017-10-19T06:29:46+00:00

Remember not to take these conversations on text, facebook or some other app. Always try your best to take this shit in person. Makes it way easier to handle.

empatheticapathetic · 2017-10-19T08:35:07+00:00

Should have said "cool bye" and left. Anything further validates her frame. Which is a waste of your valuable time and self respect.

untonyto · 2017-10-19T13:30:51+00:00

This generally works, as my recent experience proves. I used to be so worried about saying "the right thing" and saying it "the correct way" and then looking out for any possibility of having been misinterpreted and tending her feelings carefully. Lately I say things to women any old way my mind perceives it and I clear my headspace, leaving them to make of it what they will. They come around eventually but watching the journey has been a learning experience. It's her problem, not mine.

rasta_rusk_99 · 2017-10-19T11:04:58+00:00

that's quite a storm. you did well man.

lagerea · 2017-10-19T17:59:58+00:00

After years of reading this sub agreeing or not the one thing I took from it with my latest relationship is I have never told her I love her, I never gave anything short of I'm me, if that works for you stay, if not leave. That's four years strong, we do what I decide, have other girls, and the shit tests don't exist. It is your life and if you compromise in the least she has taken ground.

TangoZulu · 2017-10-19T14:37:42+00:00

Going to be honest here, sounds more like this wasn't a Shit Test as much as a Comfort Test, and you failed it hardcore.

throwaway2wwee · Thu Oct 19 13:31:00 2017 UTC

You sound poor

Why are you focusing on cooking for you ltr instead of making money?

Title	Holding frame amidst a shit test shit storm
Author	SpecialSpnk
Upvotes	115
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Date	October 19, 2017 4:44 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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