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On some level that works. But on another level: What else could it possibly be?
I might shout nonsense, and at nobody in particular, but it's still shouting, you know?
Just because this guy didn't have a really specific group to rail against (or for) doesn't mean he wasn't making a statement. Maybe he is just politicized against people listening to music. Or people gathering in public. Or maybe just people. Just because he's shouting way outside the Overton window doesn't mean he isn't shouting.
I am going to a music festival today. I don't consider it a political gathering but there's no way this recent shooting doesn't cross my mind or influence my behavior, and I'd expect the same of every person there.
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You didn't answer what else it could be.
It doesn't really matter what he writes down on a piece of paper. The action alone is his statement. Generically anti-social people don't gather and affiliate-- it kinda goes with the ideology-- and so they don't have a logo or an organized cause to talk about or write down on the hotel stationery.
"Oh, he was just generally against people so it's not terrorism" is just about the most outlandish line of thinking I've seen in the wake of this event. It's like seeing a bird, not knowing what species it is, then waiting to confirm the species until you can conclude it's a bird.
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Nobody is talking about Muslims here (or MGTOW, downvoters whose feelings I have hurt)
People kill other people because they want that person to die. A mass shooting isn't an act against the individuals involved, intent-wise. Paddock didn't know any of those people.
As a society, we reject the old ways of thinking as outdated monoliths and instead encourage people to come up with their own self-tailored individualistic outlooks on life (MGTOW is an example of this-- but I'm not impartial in saying it's a good one). Then when they use those ideologies to go off the rails, we pretend we never encouraged them to do so.
Unless Paddock specifically had a vendetta against the singer and wanted to kill a bunch of his fans (he didn't), then this has to be terrorism.
Before you say "But what if I go out and just randomly murder a person? Is that terrorism?" please keep in mind that this is exactly the strategy ISIS is recommending right now.
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But I thought there was no difference between men and women? We are all equal in every way, so if 98% of the shooters are male, it's the same as 98% of the shooters being female. Men are women and women are men, that's what I'm constantly told.
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