What sucks about getting older is the feeling that you're playing harder for a consolation prize.

TruePr0l0gue · 2016-03-08T07:27:44+00:00

When I was 19 years old and didn't have more than seventy bucks in my checking account, I went to a Manhattan dance bar with my buddies and ended up hooking up with the wife of a multi-millionaire hotel tycoon who had rented out a limo to take her and her sisters out for the night

I knew this when the bouncers informed me after said limo had left, after said woman had unsuccessfully tried convincing her sisters to let me ride with them to Conneticut at 3am

Drunk broke pre-trp me didn't meditate on it, but it kinda fucked with me for a while, and your post puts it into perfect words

I thought about that guy whose wife gave me her tits in the booth. He must have been older than her. A hotel tycoon for god's sake. Who knows what his struggles were? Who knows where he came from? Who knows how much he had to sacrifice until he could rent a limo to take an entourage of women to a place where the bouncers know his name? And this woman, what did he have to do to court her? How much was he paying for her to have fun?

Whatever he did to raise his status so high, this woman, the mother of his children and fruit of his labors, still hooked up with me, an unemployed college junior on a 2-day same-shirt streak, because I was pretty and touched her good.

That was one of the last precursors to getting unplugged. I think of that guy and his wife from time to time. Jaded as I am now, it still fucks with me a little. I don't regret what I did with his wife, but I empathize with him. I see a future where I might have become him. No matter how high you raise your SMV, the paradigm shift from younger game to older game can't be denied. No matter how much money or status, hamsters gonna hamster. They won't only just swing up to higher branches. They will swing to lower branches for sweeter fruit as well.

DarthExero · 2016-03-08T06:57:19+00:00

The only women I have gone out with who insisted on paying their half were women in their 30s. Even if it didn't work they were at least cool about it. While some want you to pay for everything they know you have better options (women in their 20s) and that you will leave. Chicks develop their own sort of frame/game as they age.

I will say this about my 30s. I seem to enjoy everything else considerably more. Every time I walk the dog it just seems like I enjoy everything about the neighborhood more and more. Every chit chat conversation with the bank teller seems more enjoyable. My general satisfaction with everything in life has gone up considerably as I have aged. When I was a teen and in my 20s everything felt as though it was a pain in the ass.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2016-03-08T07:38:59+00:00

there is just something odd about being that one guy who is still sleeping around when everyone else has moved on to long term relationships and marriages.

No there isn't. I think you might want to go back and practice some "DGAF".

As an older guy {late 40s} who dates/mates/plates girls in their early 20s, anyone who doesn't like how I live my life can fuck off to Pluto. I see a lot of married guys who are basically sad water balloons¹ that are dead behind the eyes, whose wives look at them with hatred and whose kids disrespect them and think, "Thank God I'm not THAT poor dumb sap...." And those are the guys who haven't been divorce-raped yet.

And if you're an adult man, do you really think you give a shit about validation from anyone? Guys I know socially dig my lifestyle, and the "cool wives" do also. You know who I get 'disapproval' from? Women who rode the CC too long and are past their 'sell-by' date, but think they're 'entitled' to a successful man in their age cohort, and sometimes loser white knights who think, "Women like men who are NOBLE and GOOD and therefore Milady SHOULD like me, because I am more NOBLE and GOOD than this jerk! I must SAVE milady from his evil clutches!" The reaction of my plates is typically, "Who is THAT fucking weirdo? Vasiliy, keep him AWAY from me!"

Anyway, I wrote a handy guide for young men who will one day become older men. It's called Life After 30: How to Be an Old Guy

VZ

¹ Hat tip to whomever I so recently swiped that from.

TruthOverLiez · 2016-03-08T08:20:55+00:00

" there is just something odd about being that one guy who is still sleeping around when everyone else has moved on to long term relationships and marriages" You're right, a lot of "Chads' in college already moved on as well. If you didn't get laid when you're younger then the harsh reality is you are playing catch up.

ColOfCloutties · 2016-03-08T12:07:15+00:00

It sounds like what you really miss is being in college. Being able to brag to your friends about some slut you fucked while you smoke a bong around a dirty ass fraternity living room. Getting validation from your friends. The sex is just sex. You probably don't feel as fulfilled because you don't have a club of guys to run to and waive your dick in front of.

Also, girls after college don't suddenly grow up. After they hit the wall sure, but a girl who is 23-24 (a few years after college) is generally the same as they were in college.

grewapair · 2016-03-08T07:50:29+00:00

I gave up dating women over 30. They expect the sun and the moon and yet they are heading straight downhill. They don't get it at all, they think they are on top of their game and getting better. Not worth my time.

PabloEscoba · 2016-03-08T09:57:16+00:00

DO NOT give a single fuck about what people around you think. As the man, do what feels right to YOU. If that means spinning plates consisting of fresh 18 year olds so be it. You've earned it. No man deserves an ex carousel rider.

redpillbanana · 2016-03-08T09:21:07+00:00

What I see in this post is the danger of ego and envy.

You talk about how you don't want to just fuck the girl, you want to show her off to your friends and have them see that you're doing well. You mention that you feel bad because you're not pulling these girls as easily as other men. You're worried about how you look to others around you who might disapprove of your lifestyle.

Fuck all of that. Fuck the girls you want to fuck and live the lifestyle you want to live and don't worry about how it looks to other people (unless you are a politician). Don't worry about guys who are doing better than you because there's always someone who will be doing better (although it would be hard to beat Leo DiCaprio's lifestyle). Many guys your age would love to be fucking a 19-year-old volleyball player and wouldn't give a damn if anyone other than their cock knew about it.

Appreciate what you have but always strive for more.

XDforlife · 2016-03-08T11:55:16+00:00

honestly it sounds like you were confused before, and still are

you're playing your life according to what you think other people think you should be doing or something

as i've gotten older, dating/fucking girls has gotten easier for the following reasons, to begin with

1) i know exactly what i want, exactly how to get it, and what any BS red flags are so i have no problem in nexting a girl because i have fully realized that there are 100 better ones i can find in the next week

2) now i have enough money to the point where i can do whatever the fuck i want, without worrying about a girl or no girl. in college i might have thought 'oh wow i'd like to go to ___________ but it would be better with a girl'. Now I go by myself or invite some friends, or a girl, because that's more fun. Usually friends are a lot more fun because women don't add much to trips/vacations, they expect to be entertained and can't really entertain you beyond sex.

there is just something odd about being that one guy who is still sleeping around when everyone else has moved on to long term relationships and marriages

there is literally nothing 'odd' about that, outside of your own perception. I'm at the point now where a lot of the people i went to highschool/college with are getting divorced or stuck in unhappy marriages, and they wish they would have not fucked up like they did.

also you sound like you want a relationship, which can be fine if it's the type you're looking for with the proper dynamics. Sometimes I like that too. Except unlike the common relationship betas struggle to get in to, where they have to play an emotional tampon for a girl for the whole week just to hope to fuck on the weekend, when i date a girl the rules are set early and she knows if she doesn't play by them she can leave. the last girlfriend i had was good, she knew my role and hers, and when i was in the mood we/she brought another girl into the mix for extra fun

expect an established guy to pay for their shit.

yes they do, and they expect someone to listen to all their BS. It's inevitable with all women. Think of it as a game of hot potato, and you want to just hold it for a little while, have your fun, then pass it on to a beta

Entropy-7 · 2016-03-08T13:49:22+00:00

I turn 50 this year. I still date teenagers but generally the girls I bang are in their late 20s or early 30s. I get by on pure chutzpah; most guys my age have a lot more assets than me. They offer up beta bux or otherwise peacock. I just say "this is me and you are you, so let's have some quality time". That works for me.

WhySoRuff · 2016-03-08T06:47:04+00:00

Look at it this way. When you were young, you liked simple toys but as you got older you liked toys that were more complex. While it was easier in your youth, all the new moving parts now make things more Interesting. They don't call life "the game" for nothing.

atticusfinch1973 · 2016-03-08T13:46:35+00:00

I think statement #3 is true up to a certain point and then once women get into their 40's it actually goes the other way, almost like a bell curve. In my (admittedly recent) experience over the past few months I've found women in their 40's are fantastic in terms of not expecting commitment, have well established careers and therefore pay their own way and don't create drama about relationships. They have already gone past the wall and typically whatever guy they are divorced from or had a couple of LTR's with are the ones that got to deal with them when they were going crazy, not me.

Frankly, I lean towards plating and dating 40 year olds (and I'm 40 as well) instead of younger women once you can get past the physical differences because their expectations are usually almost the same - good sex (older women tend to be much more uninhibited and love frequent sex), drama free and even playing field in terms of time and paying for stuff.

This is of course older women without young kids (ie under teenage years) or other major attachments.

BRENDORVEGAS · 2016-03-08T16:18:16+00:00

This post is your insecurity talking, not your intellect. Dude, keep banging 19 year-olds.

TermsOfColors · 2016-03-08T13:44:08+00:00

Until they find the fountain of youth, one option would be to be that 30 year old guy living in your parent's basement and still living the college life every weekend.

I had lots of fun in high school and college, and in my 20's. I recall being in a nightclub years ago, must've been around 31 or 32, suddenly looking around and thinking, Goddamn this is boring.

Evolve or wash out.

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-03-08T14:36:49+00:00

The only thing I could consider worthwhile to discuss in your post is the resources vs you discussion.

I think allot of men share the sentiment where they want a woman to get wet for their looks and game. Not their condo, lifestyle and bank account. Remember though that this is the whole package. Even in high school you were being evaluated by status and what group you belonged to. There's no escape to this.

In fact a woman would opt to fuck an uglier skinnier guy over pretty muscled you if it meant she could leach his status and lifestyle. Women whine about men treating them like a piece of meat. Men whine about women treating them like a wallet. It's just projection where the opposite sex wants to be attractive in the same way they attract.

You're SMV is simply way higher by the time you're 30. If you played things right then you have more to show for yourself than the 20 year old guys. I've seen girls pick the older dude over the younger dude all the time. Hell I've been that younger dude.

Modern-Day-Musashi · 2016-03-09T03:15:53+00:00

Well if you honestly think about it: the 19 year old Chad's currencies are his looks, status and Glade aerosol can size cock!!

Typically the average 19 year old young man in college doesn't have large sums of money. The older you get as a man, the more the game changes.

If you really want to live a RP single man's life throughout your life, you really need to pay attention to what you are really doing with your life, your choices and your building of wealth.

Because by the time that you are 45-50, the women that you'll want to fuck are the hot 30's AND that my friend takes $$$ and enough intelligence and experience not to spend to much unwisely on getting them.

If you're multi-million then you're consistently fucking hot 20 year olds, they won't care that you 20-25 years older. Because of your cash and power.....

The game won't change boys, it's all about how you play the mother fucker. You guys that are young, don't fuck yourselves up. The world has changed, immensely over the last 30 years, smarten up with these women and take care of yourselves.

sir_wankalot_here · 2016-03-08T12:11:33+00:00

TIL most American guys are now days out of shape and over the hill by the age of 29.

ArkAngelEV · 2016-03-08T14:28:23+00:00

Rant coming:

I know EXACTLY what you mean. I have had a similar situation; being a young buck and fucking a 40+ married millionaire-ess and being older and fucking a 19 y.o college freshman. The take away I got was something really eye opening.

I have no statistics to back this up, but I believe the girls in your peer group, the girls that are roughly the same age as you as life progresses, are NEVER suitable for an exclusive LTR. In their 20s they are pounding out ( or wish they were ) older Chad. When they become much older, the young Chad is there for the easy lay which validates and reminds them of their youthful fun.

Notice that at any point between her sexual life cycle, a girl pegs the men in her age group as beta, automatically. I suspect it's because her hamster believes that she is equal to them, to you, and the jump from equal to superior is easy one for her to make. She can't do that with a much older guy, because actual experiences trump what fantasy she has in her head, and a young buck is too busy being Chad to think deeply and philosophically about life- so in that brief moment SHE is the mature one.

A woman's curse is she needs to look UP and respect a man to be able to love him. Or she doesn't mind looking DOWN and indulging her base desires with young tight bodies guilt free. As fully matured RP men, we can empathize for her latter motive. The comedy is that she never really looks to her pool of potential suitors that are on her left or right.

I call it the Westermark effect. But instead of physical proximity, we have MENTAL/MAINSTREAM proximity. Basically the same idea but we all didn't live together physically, but we all lived together mentally with the same general kind of likes and dislikes that make up our generation.

Having said that: this sort of writing makes me think 2 things when it comes to women. I wonder if this is why they recoil when asked if they'd like to live forever. Immortality scares the shit out of them. I think they intuitively know that it would be such a sad experience for them EVEN if they were able to pick a static physical age for eternity.

The second thought; that part of you that questions the ability of women to swing both up and down branches reminds me of a Greek story in which the married rich older women locked their husbands out of their politics room. They then proceed to have sex with the top 50 men in their village. They start with the least attractive guy from the cream of the crop and finish with the top guy. They return to their husbands, forever after dissatisfied because she had hit the ultimate Chad they will ever know. The husbands, cucked, become a shell of themselves and the young 50 men ashamed and disgusted with themselves, because they sold out their bodies for wealth.

When woman reach their ultimate feminine goal, it's a situation in which no one really wins. Not even them

TheRealMewt · 2016-03-08T11:13:45+00:00

I really don't see why you're making all of this about the resources you have, unless you have pictures of your wallet or your apartment in your Tinder profile...

fatkawk · 2016-03-08T14:13:22+00:00

I mean, I get where you're coming from, but what else is there?

The way I see it, you either keep on keeping on, rolling with the punches or you stick a shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger.

0kool74 · 2016-03-08T15:48:32+00:00

The same women who at 19 were fucking Chad for free now expect an established guy to pay for their shit.

Quote For The Day!!!!! And possibly the week, month, year, maybe even century.

thenemaxofredpill · 2016-03-08T18:57:16+00:00

Just wait until you are over 30 like me. Your sex drive calms down and now it's like "Man...She has some monster tits....I would like to fuck her....nah...fuck that headache...rather go to the batting cages and work on my motorcycle. Mmmmm gonna grab a beer and Chick-Fil-A".

It's great that I no longer care....but it sucks because I should be happily married with kids right now.

cariboo_j · 2016-03-08T19:25:41+00:00

I feel that deep down this is satisfying to us as men no matter how much we try to deny it.

Yeah IMO most TRPers are still slaves to the vaginal orifice. You are a fly caught in honey. You are a lost soul spinning round and round in the cycle of samsara - spurred on to endless toil by your ignorance - the belief that female validation is worth a damn and sex is anything more than a crack-like endorphin rush.

VodkaTankerSpill · 2016-03-08T23:19:11+00:00

Not only fuck Chad but do all kinda of dirty, kinky shit that they wont do anymore, unless she wants to rope you into an LTR.

vengefully_yours · 2016-03-08T23:20:18+00:00

You. Are. Doing. It. Wrong.

Not surprising since you're only 25. Im 20 years+ older than you, I don't spend money on bitches, they have no clue how much money I have, and honestly if I show it I come across as try hard. 12 years ago when I bought a 98 Formula, college girls hit on me while I drove it. Now with the gray hair in my beard, its try hard. Its my economy car, not a status symbol. It has almost 200k on it but still looks good. Now I drive one of my trucks, a beater hotrod, or my ratty but sinister looking street machine, they break their necks.

Walking around, wearing a black t shirt, jeans, and hiking boots, I get more neck breaking. I speak and theres more looks. I do not exude the appearance of wealth, it's deliberate.

Body language and muscle is why I garner female attention from girls your age. Not wealth. Not height, but intimidating presence. If you need money, you're doing it wrong. Pure and simple.

As for being bored with fucking decent looking girls, welcome to abundance mentality. She isn't the prize, you are.

down_with_whomever · 2016-03-09T05:32:43+00:00

OP, I enjoyed your post and I can relate to what you are saying.

My first thought is that I think that we have to set the rules that we play by, and if our SMV is high enough and our game tight enough, others will play by them as well.

I don't give resources to any of the girls I deal with. I'm too impatient. If they expect something from me that I didn't want to give on my own, they can fuck right off. Is it because I'm better than you or have higher SMV? I don't know you, I have no reason to assume it. Is it because I make my own rules with girls and don't break them? More likely, yes.

therellikofthenight · 2016-03-09T17:41:59+00:00

Or maybe you could drop out and not play at all. Is it the sex or the validation that you guys are really after? Because at the end of the day, unless she's "special," it doesn't mean anything anyway. It's temporary.

"If it flies, floats or fucks, it's cheaper to rent." - Rev. Lawrence Shannon

nsareadsmyemails · 2016-03-09T17:59:16+00:00

It's called not having anything in common. Don't get hung up on fucking HBX find connection first. I don't mean by pedestalizing or beta behavior, but by polarization. Read Mark Manson Models.

jace81 · 2016-03-10T10:28:43+00:00

Yea wait til u are mid 30's and they all have kids.. Then talk to me.

max_peenor · 2016-03-08T17:04:37+00:00

Getting laid isn't as satisfying when you're in a world full of people all over the age range (married men, elderly, etc.) compared to your school days when you're surrounded by guys your age. Due to us being so competitive as guys.

What does any of that external stuff have to do with the enjoyment of getting laid?

You are way too concerned with comparing yourself to others.

peonpete · 2016-03-08T19:09:23+00:00

Have you considered you might be gay?

This amount of angst banging a 19 year old is not normal for a well adjusted straight late 20s male. I have a panty dropping appartment for ME because I like it, not because of what tinder girls think. If you feel inadequate and that its only your cash that chicks want, then go lift bro.

fucknshuck · 2016-03-08T21:39:58+00:00

"The same women who at 19 were fucking Chad for free now expect an established guy to pay for their shit." They still are fucking Chad so be the Chad

moredishware · 2016-03-08T22:49:43+00:00

First off, 25 isn't old. Your brain is still developing at this age.

My friends would have been there knowing that I fucked her, others would have known that we were together, and I would have felt that rush of validation.

No one validates you. No one even cares about you.

we want some people to know that we hooked up with that hot girl

"You" may want this, but, seriously, idgaf.

we love knowing how easy it was for us to get with her because she was into our looks or something about us rather than our resources

You'd rather have her dig you because of something superficial, rather than earning it like a man?

All the while, the 19 year old Chad is getting these same girls due to looks and some form of status.

love cucking 19 year olds guys that are deluded into thinking they are some kind of Chad-- fuck princesses solely because their young boyfriends are turds.

Older guys that do better do better because they're better, not because they're older.

So get better.

Getting laid isn't as satisfying when you're in a world full of people all over the age range (married men, elderly, etc.) compared to your school days when you're surrounded by guys your age. Due to us being so competitive as guys.

What? I don't even..

When women get older, especially once they graduate college, they require so much more from guys. The same women who at 19 were fucking Chad for free now expect an established guy to pay for their shit.

So fuck 18 year old girls, make Chad a cuck when they are 19, and weed out the good one's in their twenties.

Luckyluke23 · 2016-03-09T03:29:10+00:00

I feel the same way man.

I'm 26 and I've only had 2 sexual partners in my life. ( I haven't been doing red pill long maybe 8+ months i don't know, game has been longer though)

I feel as if I've wasted a lot of my youth and some of the sexual opportunity I've had ( I didn't know any better)

I kick myself when I think about this, and I do kind of feel rushed now since I just turn 26. it sucks, but i guess it's better than not knowing right?

T0000009 · 2016-03-09T02:29:58+00:00

The same women who at 19 were fucking Chad for free now expect an established guy to pay for their shit.

Not expecting, they DEMAND the older guy meet their 500 point checklist, unless he is hawt, then it's fine if he is a broke jackass. Older guys have a whole lot more to lose, and much less time to regain it after the bomb drops. You can't recover decades of planning, work and effort once your fired for "harassment" under the new rules of office idiocy, or when you get out of the slammer for a false rape accusation.

I shit you not, I had one crazy bitch show up with cops and force her way into my house, and they were gonna arrest ME because I didn't want her on MY PROPERTY because she was bawling and crying??

For old guys... The "cost" is astronomical....

Title	What sucks about getting older is the feeling that you're playing harder for a consolation prize.
Author	GraduatedDoenow
Upvotes	95
Comments	69
Date	March 8, 2016 6:04 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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