[Mod] Reminder: Don't vote!

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July 24, 2013

Just going through the modqueue like usual, and I've been noticing more shadow-banned accounts than usual, so here's a friendly reminder:

Do not vote on linked posts (to other subreddits). That will get you shadow banned.

It's for your protection.


Check if you've been shadow banned here: http://shadowbancheck.appspot.com/ (Use at your own risk, could record ip addresses)

As a matter of policy, moderators will no longer approve posts by shadow banned members, even if they were quality posts.

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Title [Mod] Reminder: Don't vote!
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 39
Comments 61
Date 24 July 2013 01:44 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/5788
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1iye3z/mod_reminder_dont_vote/
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[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave23 points24 points  (19 children) | Copy

I heard somewhere that shadow-ban checking app is run by an SRSer and used to harvest IPs. As in, you go check your username and they record your IP, which doesn't tell them a whole lot, but does tell then approximately where you live.

edit to add: you can check if your shadowbanned by simply logging out and then looking at your user page. You'll get a 404 if you're shadow banned.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yikes. Use at your own risk.

[–][deleted] 3 points3 points | Copy

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[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah, seriously -_-

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What did he/she say?

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A note to read the comments before. There was no warning in the original post that it's potentially a tool to harvest IP addresses.

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[–]dgfhggj0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I didn't see any difference between SRSers and others on that website.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

Shit I used it. Should I delete my account?

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Nah. Don't worry. Especially don't worry if you're a small potatoes reddit nobody.

What an IP Address tells someone is your ISP. In most cases, that will tell them what city you're in. If you're at work, then they might be able to figure out the name of your employer, depending on how your employer got its IPs. If you're at school, they'll definitely get the name of the school.

A little less likely is that your ISP or employer has connected that IP with your username. So like, on your local network, you can probably do a command like nbtstat -A (coworker's IP) and get the WINS name of that computer, which is often like Joe's Computer or whatever.

You can't do that over the internet though, unless your network is really messed up.

They might also take a look at what ports you have open and get information about you that way.

The point is, there are risks, yes, but having your IP isn't a guarantee that someone knows anything more about you, so don't panic.

However, if you one day became a controversial personality on reddit, then they'd be looking through your post history and if they had your IP they might be able to put all these little pieces of information together to figure out who you are.

Like you might have posted that you work as the IT guy for a small-town city hall. They use your IP to figure out what city, then just look on the city's website for your name. Then they call your employer and say, "zomg did you know you have a rapist working for you!!!" (which is how they represent this subreddit)

Be careful, but don't be paranoid. You also can't control everything, you know. The admins have your IP obviously, and they know all of your alt reddit accounts. So, if an admin wanted to screw you over, there's nothing you could do about it.

[–]13garoni 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy

I'm a nobody but did it on mobile, should I be worried?

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hope that the point of my post is that nobody really needs to worry.

I just personally wouldn't use the site.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I was at home when I did it but I'll still delete this account and make a new one. Thanks for the detailed reply

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How does one properly delete a reddit account? Do you just abandon it?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Account settings -> delete account

[–]PureEvil666-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Delete then burn. Eat/feed the ashes. Deny any involvement.

[–]Netlinfo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I heard somewhere that shadow-ban checking app is run by an SRSer and used to harvest IPs.

I know it's off-topic but, you make it sound like an urban legend. Let's just respect that rule and we should be fine.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvacuu2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just use this proxy http://free-onlineproxy.com/

To check the shadowbancheck website.

[–]Clauderoughly26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fucking admins are the biggest manginas out there.

It'll be a matter of time before theredpill and mensrights are the reddit version of a ghetto, where users are essentially isolated from the rest of reddit.

[–]red_tux6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed, I've often seen it start along the following lines....

"I don't like what you are saying... I will report you..."

Then later when you fight back they say... "Why are you stepping on my freedom of speech (expression), you must be racist/homophobic/narrow minded!"

In a way, calls for "decency" or "equality" can turn into a race to the bottom, where everyone is equally restricted.

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Interesting. I've been banned from /r/askwomen on my other account and there was no shadowban...they came right out and told me that I was banned for being "sexist" lol

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is an admin feature (reddit admin) not a moderator feature. When you're shadowbanned, it's site-wide.

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ahh, I see~ Thanks for the heads up

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can't you sort of guess you were shadowbanned if no one responds to any of your comments ever?

[–]elevul2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can any of the mods make a backup of all the redpill FAQs and knowledge in an external wikia, just in case shit goes downhill from now on?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

Username : Aloss Status: Valid User


Now for clarification, people get shadow banned just for clicking on the arrows? (up and down?) not for making comments (which i believe would be the only real reason to get banned)

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy

Yes. It's a stretch, in my opinion, but the admins equate this with "vote manipulation" and use it as a broad reason to get rid of people they dislike.

[–]BeardedBandit2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

really? That's some bullshit.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong... but isn't voting pretty much the point of reddit?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

but isn't voting pretty much the point of reddit?

And therein lies the issue I have with the admin here. The rules are inconsistent, and from what I can figure, serve no purpose but to give them a plausible excuse to do away with anybody they don't like.

Yes, the point of reddit is discussion and voting. And they're trying to out-law certain types of that without any clear boundaries of what defines this.

So, I messaged the admin and asked, "for the sake of my community, can you clarify the rules that might get our users banned or community in trouble?"

The short, curt non-answer I got was: "Follow the rules, that's pretty clear."

Things couldn't be less clear.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

The idea, I think, is that they don't want vote-brigading. Think of it in this context. Imaging if a black subreddit was having a discussion, and a larger KKK subreddit descended on them and voted all of the most interesting (to the subscribers) comments down. That would cause the subscribers to slowly stop going there, and would cause the subreddit to effectively die.

Speciality subreddits are all effectively echo chambers; even /r/mensrights and /r/TheRedPill . We don't want /r/Feminism folks to come in here and trample our discussions. Effectively, downvoting hides the comments that another subreddit finds offensive. That's why we are in our own subreddit, those comments, if made in another subreddit, would be instantly downvoted to oblivion. This is our "safe space", away from assholes that get offended by everything.

It makes sense why its happening. The admins of specialty subreddits have no idea that they are being linked like that, and can't take any actions against it.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The mods can't take action with or without knowledge of the brigade. That's the point, why punish a subreddit when there's no way to police it? Furthermore, that would be an easy way to false-flag. Get a sub of a couple hundred trolls who unofficially watch the front page of something like the red pill, then follow links and downvote. Bam, you've framed us.

[–]QuietlyLearning0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This explanation made more sense than "follow the rules".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The real issue is when the brigades happen from a wide variety of subreddits, and the shadow bans from the brigades are only applied to specific set of users that represent subs that go against the perceived political mindset of admins.

[–]nonservator2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The admins could easily stop this by removing the ability of users to vote in subreddits they aren't members of. They don't because they want the ability to ban some people for doing it and not others.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

but isn't voting pretty much the point of reddit?

...but voting is just a sham, a show of consent to what the state does to the everyman.

EDIT: Just look at how the goverment treats us

[–]The Private ManZamarski1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I know what SRS stands for but I don't understand its implication when someone uses it. Can someone explain?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's a feminist-run subreddit called "shit reddit says." They basically go around looking for things people have posted that they don't feel are politically correct and then discuss what terrible people they think the commenter is.

[–]TRIGGER__WARNING0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

They basically "bully the bullies." Which makes them a steaming pile of hypocrite. They find something they don't agree with and then proceed to harass, brigade, insult, or doxx the person who said it.

They're allowed to break the rules though because they're politically correct.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

allowed to break the rules

You misspelled "Admins never call them on their shit"

[–]1browndelicious3 points4 points  (18 children) | Copy

What are linked posts?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 7 points8 points  (17 children) | Copy

Posts in other subreddits linked from here.

[–]1browndelicious4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ok, thanks.

[–]PureEvil6663 points4 points  (15 children) | Copy

What is shadow ban?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 12 points13 points  (14 children) | Copy

When the admin bans you, you can still use reddit, post, comment, and vote... but nobody can see it. Tricks you into thinking you're still a member, but you're effectively invisible.

[–]PureEvil6666 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

That sounds horrible, what's the point of that

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's for spambots... BUT nowdays its being used to silence others.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

What's the point indeed!

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[–]PureEvil6665 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]FountainsOfFluids0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

So if you're shadow banned, nobody votes on your comments or replies, right? Seems like an easy way to know, at least if you're an active user.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Ya, I am pretty sure you can tell if you just stop getting replies to your comments. The fact that I replied to you should demonstrate you aren't shadow banned.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

But sometimes I legit just don't get replies!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Maybe I just say some controversial shit, but I get replies often enough I would definitely notice if it dried up.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

We have to keep this reply chain going because there's no way to know if we've been shadow-banned between responses.

[–]alucard45710 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Someone please let me know I'm not Shadowbanned. Thanks in advance.

[–][deleted] 1 points1 points | Copy

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can link, just don't vote (outside this sub) no matter what.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So the result of shadow banning is no one will see your posts? That's kind of bullshit. If you get shadow banned, does that mean you can't post on any subreddits?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It means you can post but it will go into a void, so you simply make a new account and continue to do what you want. They only IP ban people that are over the top with maintaining their identity after being shadow banned.

[–]slenderdog0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Poor Reddit.

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