TIL if you divorce while unemployed or low-salaried your wife can declare you "underemployed" and use your resume to determine an achievable salary to be used to calculate alimony instead of your current salary

Ffenndyr · 2018-01-10T17:57:00+00:00

That’s pretty incredible.

All the more reason to stay the fuck away from marriage.

the_unseen_one · 2018-01-10T18:20:05+00:00

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trouble_with_trilbys · 2018-01-10T18:04:58+00:00

Absolutely. Had it happen to me.

The judge determined I should be making blahblahblah.

Despite the fact that I had no job history in the US for ten years.

And the job I was doing was work-equivalent and paid similarly to my specialization.

And had recently returned stateside.

And I made less than my wife.

And I had a record of every contract indicating how much I had been paid in foreign currency.

Fortunately, no alimony because we made so little income on paper, and the marriage was registered overseas.

Wife still has more assets. Go figure. I'll appeal when I finally get a stable income again.

Until then, I'm overpaying in child support, even though we have joint-custody and she was originally paying me.

Lawyer said I can appeal once you have a job that is full-time. It's bass-ackwards.

You should also know that if a wife has a child out-of-wedlock, unless you are in an equitable-division state, an appeal for at-fault divorce for adultery will go nowhere.

The laws specifically state that for unmarried couples, the imputed father can request a genetic test to potentially avoid child support. However, if you're married, you must provide support for another man's child.

It's entirely evil and designed to destroy family unity.

the_unseen_one · 2018-01-10T18:53:30+00:00

Wait, so when women choose (sometimes unilaterally) to stay at home or only work part time, they're given money for not building work history. When men are underemployed or stay at home, they still get to pay alimony based off a theoretical job? They don't even pretend like this isn't all designed to doom divorced men to a life of indentured servitude.

NEVER GET MARRIED. There is absolutely nothing in it for you, and you will get bent over and fucked when she gets bored of you.

the_unseen_one · 2018-01-10T18:02:29+00:00

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rebuildingMyself · 2018-01-10T19:50:46+00:00

The spice (money transferred from men to women) must flow. The government doesn't care about enslaving men since it's better than an overstretched budget keeping the unfaithful woman and her spawn housed and fed.

Supersonic_staples · 2018-01-10T22:08:53+00:00

Currently being sued by my soon-to-be-ex-wife for exactly that. Known as imputed income and if she's capable of getting a judge to agree, my child support payment will equal about 60% of my take home salary.

The reason it's in place is to keep the odd person from trying to game the system by giving up their medical practice to become a Walmart greeter.

Unfortunately, judges and ex-wives use the provision to kick the teeth out of anyone for the horrible crime of not making enough money.

Million-Suns · 2018-01-10T19:40:57+00:00

Why getting married in the first place?

I don't get it.

shizlordsupreme · 2018-01-10T22:54:05+00:00

True. Seen it with my very eyes when I went to court with a Navy guy I supervised. He just got out of the Navy and didn't have a job. Judge calculated what he made in the Navy and set child support to that. Needless to say...he went to jail for non-payment a couple times.

You are a slave to them. They will examine you like at a slave trader post and value you based on how hard they think you can work.

fuu999 · 2018-01-10T20:36:33+00:00

they'll find you a job too then ? or i guess it is just to fuck men who are already deep in the shit

MTGOStark · 2018-01-10T20:50:34+00:00

You know the brainwashing is strong when >1% of men are still getting married.

deadBeefCafe2014 · 2018-01-10T21:31:44+00:00

This is the concept of imputed income. It can be used for alimony, but is most often used in child support situations.

At least in the DPRMA, this keeps two things from happening:

This stops me from quitting my lucrative IT job to go become a barista at Dunkin' Donuts, which would pretty massively cut the amount of money I'd have to pay my ex. (though we split custody 50/50, so she'd need to pay me something).
This stops her from quitting her job to be a stay-at-home-mom and soaking me for even more. Now, if her BF ever commits (lol, that would be a sucker's bet) and moved up here so she didn't have to work, she can't claim I owe her more because she has no income.

The good thing is, I actually love what I do and who I work for. If I manage to make it to retirement, I'm hopefully not going to want for much more than a nice coffee, some Internet, and (hopefully) this subreddit.

mthrowaway52 · 2018-01-10T20:04:48+00:00

It's almost as if they don't give a shit about us. Actually correct that it's almost like they actively hate us

fcb98292 · 2018-01-10T23:08:51+00:00

It's called imputed income. It's a guess as to what you can earn, if all stars align, you have the perfect job and you are fully employed. In slow times, if you lose your perfect job or downgrade to just keep a job, you still get nailed for that imputed level. It would cost you more than it's worth to go to court and fight for less alimony based on the lower income.

It's a game.

Lvl21Wizard · 2018-01-10T23:25:02+00:00

Fuck that.

squidracer · 2018-01-10T23:39:29+00:00

Yep happened to a co worker. He was pushing late 50s and was laid off from his high paying job before the divorce and the judge told him he had the potential to make more.

Shitty thing is that his old job was hard on the body, as was his new job. He was hoping to step down since his body was starting to break down.

And we had one guy flat die of a heart attack while at work in his early 60s because he was force to pay his ex to much to quit

jaycee9 · 2018-01-11T04:11:33+00:00

More reasons to go mgtow...

stringedbeams · 2018-01-11T04:44:55+00:00

this sub does well to destroy any vestige of tradcon marriage fantasies I have

at least in this climate until things change substantially...

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2018-01-10T19:55:18+00:00

It can be used against her too. I used it against my ex.

SpeaksTruthToPower · 2018-01-11T02:21:22+00:00

This is called "Imputed Income". You should make this much, but you don't, so you have to pay like you make that much anyway. It's fucking sick.

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jonnyt88 · 2018-01-11T03:12:40+00:00

I hear rentals can be bad to because rent is typically counted as income. If it is un-rentend some months, judges don't care and would still add the "income" as if it was rented 100% of the time. Then after that they don't always factor in expenses such as taxes, maintenance, and mortgage.

Original_Username7 · 2018-01-11T03:47:55+00:00

Haha, I used this against my ex! She was WAY more educated than me (but worthless, couldn't hold down a job worth shit). I on the other hand, didn't even have a bachelors degree, but made really good money, but my attorney was able to show that my ex needed to be "imputed" more income than she actually made since she had such a HUGE education she could be utilizing. HA, couldn't if/when she tried! It helped make my child support ratio and an otherwise shitty situation a little bit more bearable. Modern degrees... today's miseducation system is a fuckin' bubble ready to pop.

davisyoung · 2018-01-11T04:53:32+00:00

If you’re 35 and born in the US, then you’re eligible to be president. Maybe they can use this as a baseline of potential income.

1UPZ_ · 2018-01-11T06:08:23+00:00

why are the laws like this in america.

TheToadShroom · 2018-01-11T08:06:00+00:00

Naturally. Feminism is about demolishing gender roles for the woman but the man still is forced into the provider role.

PeaceHere · 2018-01-11T08:47:48+00:00

I've made a lot of mistake in life, but at least I never got married. I never even ever seriously considered it Just a terrible deal for a man and not too bright to sign on the dotted line for that.

11101000 · 2018-01-11T11:03:56+00:00

This is true with child support in Australia. If you're earning a good wage then quit to a lower paid job the agency will determine what you "Should" earning and thus the amount of support you should be paying.

I found out the hard way. Quit high paying job, took a menial job and got shafted.

Avyctes · 2018-01-11T02:58:17+00:00

And the purpose of alimony is.....

It's nothing more than more cash and prizes for these fucking cunts, doled out by a biased, femcentric court system.

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