A rant about how females tell us to "man up"

grasshopa · 2015-06-02T04:36:57+00:00

If it makes you feel any better, at some point you move beyond this anger. You realize there's nothing to really be angry about, because it's means less than a toddler throwing a fit.

And as any parent will tell you, reasoning with a toddler is foolish.

Francois_Rapiste · 2015-06-02T05:22:01+00:00

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HATEPRIDE · 2015-06-02T05:29:13+00:00

My uncle Dan is my personal MGTOW example. Never been married no kids, 1 retirement from iron working, 1 full time job as a journeyman electrician. He has as much money as he needs, and takes vacations across the US to hunt often. He is the most laid back guy in the world, and I think it has a lot to do with not having to stress a female and all of her bullshit.

oldredder · 2015-06-02T05:50:28+00:00

So far no woman's said this to me.

The day she does I'll say "woman up and reward every man with a GOOD blowjob who takes you to dinner"

rebuildingMyself · 2015-06-02T06:23:39+00:00

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Asari_Lover · 2015-06-02T11:52:38+00:00

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2015-06-02T06:27:32+00:00

All women have is shame, and manipulation. Their value is in their ability to siphon resources from men. Kind of a one trick pony. So thats what they will always return to. Its not like they can ever recognize the logic of the situation. In their value system, they fail = you are homosexual/ not a man. It tells you that you are doing things right as they are admitting defeat.

Wollem · 2015-06-02T04:26:08+00:00

100% Man here. If I were anymore Man the ladies might start calling me Atlas and telling me how I should carry THEIR world on MY shoulders, like I'm some sort of Greek mythological titan. This titan don't play that game.

Falazure1 · 2015-06-02T05:22:38+00:00

Let these desperate harpies gripe, moan and spit their venom.

The best response isn't anger but one of these three:

amusement
pity

cfuse · 2015-06-02T04:34:26+00:00

Never understood this. They have no right.

MGTOWJayJay · 2015-06-02T05:27:36+00:00

Taken from what I call my personal MGTOW guide. Number five of http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Support-Mgtow-Men-Going-Their-Own-Way/6690114

"5) Insulting or shaming MGTOW does jack squat.

People who dislike MGTOW really can't seem to come to terms with this. All the time you the see them telling MGTOWS to “man up!” or say that they have “peter pan syndrome”. The reason why none of this works against a MGTOW is because you fail to see things the way the see it. To a MGTOW settling down means giving up all of your hobbies, your awesome life style, and pursuing your dreams, for a life of monotony. Even more so, “manning up” would mean entering in to a marriage where he could potentially lose at least half his assets (car, house, kids, etc.) in the event of a divorce. From a logical standpoint, trying to shame a MGTOW into settling down is pointless."

When you learn to live by this and you're pass your anger phase. It should no longer bother you. By the time you get past that phase, you just simply say "I can't find any fucks to give" and simply it goes in one ear and out the other. They're simply trying to bait and shame you into feeling guilty because it's all that they can do. Women that have hit post-wall are just simply stomping their feet and begging like a toddler trying to get her "candy-man" back into the plantation. They all know that their vaginas no longer have value past the age of 30 and they're getting baby crazy. Just take a step back and enjoy the show, bro. It's fucking funny. Just watch the self destruction that they caused themselves, yet are too entitled to even realize what third wave feminism has done. A huge wave of "Where have all the good men gone" articles are hitting online blogs like crazy. Apparently ignorance isn't bliss to stupid feminists. Makes popcorn.

mechdemon · 2015-06-02T10:50:43+00:00

Zug zug, dabu!

cfuse · 2015-06-02T08:13:06+00:00

You're doing what you want to do, not what society wants you to do, so society uses its favourite modifier of behaviour on you: shame.

The reason that feminists/gynocentric society increasingly is resorting to legal force is that shame simply isn't working anymore (and as much as I'd like to credit that to MGTOW I believe it has more to do with the loss of privacy in modern times and the concomitant loss of shame that goes with that).

The problem with the reaction to the man up fallacy is that guys are buying into the bullshit instead of seeing past it. They react to defend their manhood when the best response is to point out that why would men need to 'man up' for women that don't need no man?

Stop caring what irrelevant people think, especially when their stupidity is the cause of their own complaint and not the result of anything you are or aren't doing. Literally go your own way, and that cannot happen without being prepared to transgress and reject social expectations.

2015-06-02T18:25:06+00:00

Tell women to cook and to start Woman-Up for a change. Funny how most women don't cook today. They bring nothing to the table for a LTR. Nothing but $$ problems and drama. I can barely tolerate my plates for more than a few months...

Mr_Siggy · 2015-06-02T04:23:54+00:00

Great point... them not telling the bad boys that fucked up to man up.

The only place I seen that shit was on the Maury show and Jerry springer.

I dont think ive seen an article about that. And why would they focus the ALL the attention on single dudes to man up but leave out the fuck ups/guys that knocked them up? That's some scary shit.

2015-06-02T13:25:48+00:00

Just a ploy to siphon resources from you. No true man with balls would ever fall for such a farce.

By going MGTOW, men have simultaneously deprived women of resources AND attention - killing two birdies feels pretty damn good.

2015-06-02T20:33:20+00:00

Truth is, the women who say men need to "Man Up" often need to "Lady Up themselves. They're stuck in a teenage mind cycle of abusing men to get what they want. They haven't figured out that the best way to keep a man is to shut up every once and a while and do what he fucking tells you to.

Yeah want to know why older generations marriages lasted longer? The women usually shut the fuck up and did what she was told. In exchange he provided for her and gave her things that made her happy. It's a give and take relationship and by and large most men hate being told what to do.

2015-06-03T03:54:40+00:00

I refuse any and all conversations regarding marriage and women with women and blue pills. Conversations about such subjects don't usually last more than a minute.

Brigham_Jung · 2015-06-02T07:24:21+00:00

They can tell me to 'man up' all they want. I still refuse to 'pony up'!

Argosy37 · 2015-06-02T08:40:26+00:00

I think Guante's 10 Responses to the Phrase "Man Up" is pretty much the ultimate answer to the use of this phrase.

Starting with #1

"Fuck you."

Listen to #6 and #7 - incredibly MGTOW.

chillmonkey88 · 2015-06-02T09:33:56+00:00

Some thing I've heard many times in the rp side of the sphere is that women are disgusted and angered by weak men because being in their presence threatens their status...

I think this tails off of that, though it's more of a molding the threat... like domestication of dogs over the centries to go from wild animal to human ally (my auto correct says I'm spelling centries wrong). Seeing the threat to their status as being taken care of and provided for by men and reacting when they don't because of a shift in the male perspective...

Back to the dog reference... if dogs were to become more ferocious and "wild" and less domesticated we would see that as a problem/threat if they became opportunistic pack animals that stopped tending to our past relationship with them.

We are the dogs gentleman and momma left the front door open because she stopped taking care of us... go out the door you never were allowed to in that big world and explore.

BrunoOh · 2015-06-02T12:36:04+00:00

When people tell you to man up, you should probably man down instead.

Smokratez · 2015-06-02T12:51:15+00:00

You are getting worked up over some article online? It only affects you if you let it.

2015-06-02T13:31:09+00:00

I have a good job, make good money, don't owe any debt, act maturely at all times, treat people with respect, keep in shape, etc. As far as I know, I've already manned up.

You have. I would treat this as though a five year old was advising you to be a fireman (or a policeman if you already ARE a fireman). I wouldn't go so far as to pat them on the head and say "Ah, that's cute" but that same attitude might help.

SexistFlyingPig · 2015-06-02T17:29:03+00:00

If you just treat everything women say as having come out of the mouth of a 5-year old, you'll be a lot happier. My daughter says stuff all the time, but I don't take her too seriously.

A woman telling me how to be a man? How would she know?

jolly_mcfats · 2015-06-03T01:01:48+00:00

I've grown to appreciate exhortations to "man up" as convenient signposts highlighting what social expectations I should confront. It's like shorthand for "in case you missed it, I just tried to sell you some bullshit".

thrownaway_MGTOW · 2015-06-03T02:23:50+00:00

One of the reasons is that there is indeed SOME level of "truth" to the fact that "adolescence" has (in recent decades) been extended well into people's mid to late 20's and even early 30's -- and that for both men AND women.

But I agree with your "rant" entirely.

Yes, lots of young guys ARE still being essentially "little boys" -- at least in economic, work & financial terms (remaining largely dependent on parents, attending school, etc) -- but that has been something that society has PUSHED & heavily PROMOTED (i.e. via the "everyone needs to go to college" meme -- well if you're going to spend 4, 5, 6, 7 additional years "in school" you're NOT going to be establishing a financially-independent household, are you?)

But you are correct in that THAT ISN'T what the whole "man up" meme is about -- the "Man Up" meme is all (entirely, 100%) about "marrying slut-hoes" (especially the "single-mom-with-crotchspawn" variety) and becoming their beta-provider slaves (and despite the fact that the women provide NOTHING in return); the funniest ones are the arguments based on (supposedly) the "economic benefits" to society.

As if...

And the jackasses (or more commonly bitches) who push this really DO need to be slapped back down, and IMO pretty brutally. (Nor is it really all that difficult to do, since ALL of their "arguments" are so poorly constructed -- per example the "economic" one, as a single guy who owns his own home {paid off quickly}, his own {multiple paid off} vehicles, etc -- well how does that NOT constitute "economic activity"? Just because it's not a 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom home? Or because my vehicles AREN'T "minivans"? If women want those things, well they can establish their own household with them -- and if you do the math that would actually represent an aggregate INCREASE in the number of households, and therefore a higher "economic demand", etc.)

Thus you can rather quickly REVEAL that their argument is HOLLOW -- even fraudulent -- it isn't about whether I've established an independent household (bought washer/dryer, fridge & stove, furnace & air conditioner, furniture, vehicles, etc)...

It REVEALS that their chief issue is that I am NOT willing to be a "duped slave" that hands over MY paycheck to a FEMALE for her to 'squander'.

And if/when they try to make the argument that the slut-hoe "single moms" are some "burden" on society... well then maybe "society" should reconsider why they are INCENTIVIZING that kind of behavior by women; and given that society wants to "tolerate" (and arguably even PROMOTE) the "single mom" bit, not to mention the "slut walk" and female promiscuity... well then the results of that are "society's" problem, not mine.

I am well within my rights to not only NOT "man up" as some sacrificial paycheck-slave for a slut-ho -- but I am also (cf the "political" aspects of the sidebar some have objected to) within my rights to withdraw MY support for such a system (in any and every way that I can -- i.e. minimizing my taxes, etc).

trippyshrooms · 2015-06-03T13:26:51+00:00

Good point. Speaking of "manning up", have you seen the latest vid from Spetsnaz on Male Shame? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2wB7Lwizo

oneaboveall23 · 2015-06-04T06:24:50+00:00

Women are the LAST ones to be telling anyone to "grow up". Most of the ones I meet are flaky, irresponsible, and completely incapable of honoring any commitment they make. If I had a nickel for every time I had a woman break plans, especially without any notice at all, I'd be a millionaire.

SergeantDickhead · 2015-06-05T09:50:51+00:00

Like a creature without a penis can define what it means to "man up". Fucking idiots the lot of them.

A woman telling a mgtow to "man up" is like a policeman telling a doctor how to preform brain surgery.

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MTGunNut · 2015-06-09T05:56:39+00:00

Man up? I'd rather bro down!

2015-06-10T07:20:07+00:00

I don't get angry when they say man up any more. I just point out "What good would that do? I'm a creep, you can't be talking about me. I don't even like me; why would some woman put up with my crazy?"

A general application of Antagonistic Nihilism and being the worst curmudgeon ever tends to put them into other directions.

Title	A rant about how females tell us to "man up"
Author	skyller2s
Upvotes	94
Comments	65
Date	June 2, 2015 3:29 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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