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[–]MotherOfLogic296 points297 points298 points 4 years ago (74 children) | Copy Link
Fact. Don't feel for the sake of women. Feel for yourself. Women are emotionally intelligent, yet they give you shit for being emotional.
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect224 points225 points226 points 4 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link
Women are emotionally intelligent
Are they though... Really?
I know that that is the common belief, but I believe that is just more as an excuse to explain away illogical behavior.
[–]KaitouNala109 points110 points111 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, considering how "empathetic" they are going to have to agree that women have low EQ too.
[–]autoeroticassfxation51 points52 points53 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There are two different kinds of empathy. Warm/emotional and cold/analytical. They use cold empathy for manipulation and control.
[–]BitcoinBoffin25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice point. Even a hunter uses empathy to think like his prey. Allows him to exploit the senses, perception, terrain & environment to get in close for the kill.
[+]Unoiseau-9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This whole dang comment reads awkwardly, dude. I'm going to guess that you meant to say "Yeah, considering how "empathetic" they are. I'm going to have to agree that women have low EQ too."
Am I safe to assume I interpreted that correctly?
[–]CynecaFa77510 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The only thing the original comment could have used is a comma between "are" and "going." Other than that, it's unnecessary to act as if the original comment was hard to understand in any way.
As someone who professionally writes books and edits screenplays, this is one of my biggest pet peeves. Someone acting as if a simple grammatical error makes the entire statement incomprehensible. Don't be a dick, bird.
[+]Unoiseau-6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
My apologies. I'd love to read some of your literature, if you wouldn't mind! Have you published anything?
[–]CynecaFa7759 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No need to apologize to me.
I've published two books, but for the sake of knowing Reddit culture for the past decade I rather not give out those titles.
But if you ever genuinely want help with any sort of writing, feel free to ask.
[+]Unoiseau-9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I appreciate the hospitality.
If I may give my humble opinion, I believe you are a bit paranoid. If not that, I'd say you're bluffing.
[–]Sir_manalot80 points81 points82 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes they are, just not in the way men want them to be.
They are skilled at reading emotions for the sake of emotional manipulation.
Women are more empathetic, but men are more sympathetic.
[–]15564752764 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
empathetic/sympathetic, i would have thought it to be reversed. (emphathetic: "showing an ability to understand and share the feelings of another.", sympathetic: "feeling, showing, or expressing sympathy; (of a person) attracting the liking of others.")
[–][deleted] 52 points53 points54 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They are, but they lack morality so they use that emotional intelligence to suit their agenda.
[–]artographic34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men justify their emotions through their actions. Women justify their actions through their emotions.
That's the difference. One thinks objectively and to the point.
The other thinks subjectively and cares more about trivial shit that doesnt matter in the end. Aka muh feelings matter first, before the real task at hand, even if the way to succeed is to set my emotions aside.
We can do that, they cant.
[–]WanderlustYouth39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Emotional intelligence is by and large bullshit made to keep the whole "men and women are complementary" garbage, or to simply put it, its made so that womens feefees aren't hurt over them being dumber than men on average...
[–]pacosteles11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Emotional intelligence is just the consolation price invented by and for idiots.
Facts, logic and reason need no emotional bullshit.
[–]xxquickscopegodxx6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We have more "emotional intelligence" regardless. I actually feel for the guys I've bonded with, I wish them the best and contribute what I can for their success. Their form of empathy is analyzing how to break you, deconstructing your inner thoughts to weasel their way at you like a fucking snake
[–]WanderlustYouth0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Precisely
[–]waxrivers21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Female Intelligence or the "Emotional Intelligence" that they like to tout it is better described as "Female Manipulation". This is the to say that over the course of thousands of years, women have made an absolute art form of touching men's buttons; finding their weaknesses and getting what they want.
Really think about that.
Whereas men are out there trying to cure cancer; build cities; protect citizens; go to the moon and better society, women are spending every single minute prodding and poking men emotionally to find a weakness so they can receive resources and protection. Every little giggle; teardrop and sigh from a female is from thousands of years of female manipulation evolution.
It's extremely fucked up once you realize how badly we've all been played.
[–]Mikeytikey1237 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'd actually disagree. It's not true they've perfected manipulation really, so much as we are trained to give them positions to do this to us. Think if a guy approached you how a woman does. You'd be weirded the fuck out, and you'd ask him what on earth is wrong with him. So what's really happening is we're told to not be aggresive, not question, and certainly not engage in violence with women.
That's absolutely fair, women are not strong enough to fight for themselves. We've given them their own weapons, which is a pact that they are protected by us and can manipulate us because that used to be fair - dudes were huge, and that was enough to keep girls in line. Now guys can't pick shit up. Couldn't catch a fleeing car if they had to. So the balance is broken, and women are still protected but ironically even more so, given guys don't even fight any more. It should be that if girls say something you don't like, you flex and everyone goes silent. It's the only way. And ironically it is also the fair, and honest way.
[–]xxquickscopegodxx6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think the modern solution is not engage with women. Cultivate and plan your life out so that you dont have to interact with them
[–]Mikeytikey1236 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. Less theory more practice
[–]waxrivers2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'd actually disagree. It's not true they've perfected manipulation really, so much as we are trained to give them positions to do this to us.
A bit of any oxymoron here. It is Single Mother Cancer that is training us to give women these positions.
The Single Mother Cancer trains her son to be a cuck and a prisoner to female emotions. She knows her boys will eventually be physically stronger than her so she works hard to break them down emotionally in order to maintain control.
This creates a "Male Mother Need" situation once the boy grows up and gets into his first relationship with a woman. He want's to replace the strong "Mommy" figure.
[–]Mikeytikey1230 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's a good idea afterwards actually.
[–]arviman4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's more like the feminine instinct for manipulation. Much like men have an instinct for survival in the wild thanks to thousands of years of male ancestry affecting our actions via epigenetics. Yes, most guys don't know about it and even when i consciously see it, can be hard to resist. Their craft is very alluring.
[–]waxrivers0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Point well taken.
[–]safado9092 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When you buy something or say or do something on impulse. That is emotion
When you think it through, and make a logical conclusion, that is intellifence.
Emotional intelligence can certainly be defined as an oxymoron.
[–]ohgawdwhyme4561 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
do you believe that they mature faster than boys? it feels like maturity really should be defined as doing only acceptable behaviors... they do do this because what can't they do that is wrong? they're allowed to do almost anything they want. on top of that it takes a creative person to do something like going their own way
[–]nnfl0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I might be wrong, but I think that “maturing faster” idea is always worded so vaguely, perhaps on purpose. I think the first guy who said it must have meant that they physically mature into womanhood, aka puberty, faster than boys become men in that sense. I think it’s a miss-referenced statistic by people who subscribe to the “girls rule boys drool” mindset, and it’s used by people who think that you should subscribe to this as well.
Im no scientist though, and that’s all guessing. Anyone who knows about this want to chime in?
[–]arviman1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
True. I had a moment of "is it worth it?" While discussing a plan with a chick. A bro would have have been like "yeah we need to think about it". This chick went "that's weirding me out". Like you're supposed to be this 100% performing ball of positivity. The hotter (they think they are) the bitchier they get too in general. This is everywhere in the world.
There’s the other side of the spectrum too where your average feminist meet and greet consists of potatoes the size of boulders, and they’re not too particularly friendly either.
[–]Unoiseau-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know that that is the common belief
Your comment would have read correctly if you said "I know that is common belief, but..."
I believe that is just more as an excuse to explain away illogical behavior.
You should have said "I believe it is just an excuse to explain away illogical behavior."
Let me know if you need any help with English, or grammar, bro. I don't hate on ignorance, I educate.
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr59 points60 points61 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
No, women have the mental intelligence of a child. I know several personally who expect, and do live their entire lives in an infantilized state, the older ones even baby talking all the time
[–]MotherOfLogic15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yes, their mental intelligence lacks, but their emotional intelligence is where they dupe and fool Men. Men have emotional intelligence but they realise it a little too late
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Societal pressures. From birth, a man is fed the constant lie that he must do all he can and women are perfect. Watch any shows, any cartoon, the idiot and the lame are always males.
[–]MotherOfLogic5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Indeed. We must break out of it. I am glad I went out with a cheating gf. It taught me a lot. It make myself realise who I should be. If all of my friends and family remain unaware, it is up to them.
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Think about it. If cartoons showed kids how readily women lie, how they will betray you without even an afterthought, kids would have better tools to deal with the female reality.
[–]MotherOfLogic5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But they will not. Men are weak in today's societal status. Men used to be in charge, we let women take control. We have become lazy as a whole gender.
[–]waxrivers5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Keep in mind as well that the Controllers of society have a vested interest in keeping men chasing women and engaging in financial slavery so the status quo can be retained at the top.
[–]jrpark051 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yep. When I was young my dad told me that I should "put women on pedestals". It took maybe one week in middle school to realize that was exactly wrong, but it was also a red pill because my dad is a good man, and women will mistreat good men who put them on pedestals.
One of my earliest experiences into going my own way. I know I'm rambling, but it came to a point where when women approached me to talk to me, I'd only show interest if what they said was interesting or thought-provoking (which wasn't often, so I didn't date much). Though my dad was wrong about women, it was his attempts at being a good man, a good husband, and good provider that gave me the red pill. He should been appreciated for being these things, but he was not by those outside our family.
Recently I told a bitch that she should be honored that I said hi or gave a shit about what she was doing, and she apologized, and I walked on.
Truth is gents that while it would be wonderful to be appreciated for working to be a great lover, husband, boyfriend, provider, etc., the modern woman (the only ones I know) do not appreciate it. Therefore, why continue to play this stupid game and be consistently taken for granted and treated like shit?
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Society's biggest myth is that women are the prize
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There is a ho movement and websites around "Sugar Babies" which is exactly what you describe
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I had two aunts like that. Always spoke in baby talks, never worked a day in their entire lives. They had zero problems throwing tantrums whenever they were told no. I've seen them jump and stomp their feet, scream "WHAT MAMMA WANTS, MAMMA GETS", slap the tables repeatedly and of course, the fake cries. The idea is just to make "normal" people uncomfortable so they crack. In a sane household, they would have been slapped hard across the face the first time but "It's just how they are"
The worst was when I was dining out with one or them or both at family gatherings. They were even worst to waitstaff because they were getting attention and knew people had to stay with them.
[–]underscorewarrior0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
women have the mental intelligence of a child
Hahahaha Jesus man you are full of hate in your heart. This some shit you’d find in a textbook from the 1700’s lmao.
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
10, 12 years old at best, simp. I hope you make sure to copy and paste this to your little open sewer of a sub you spy for.
[–]underscorewarrior0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
you spy for
Yeah this is a subreddit my guy, anyone with internet access can come here. As much as you want to believe it, you’re not some underground society that’s too woke for the rest of the world to find out about. I like coming here occasionally and reading through the posts because it never ceases to amaze me how a subreddit dedicated to Men Going Their Own Way spends 100% of its time talking exclusively about women and sex.
And if you’re only going after girls that remind you of 10 and 12 year olds I think that says a lot more about you than it does about women.
[–]nnfl0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Of course there are posts about women here, men are going their own way from women. What’s the contradiction there?
Seems you women always go for the jugular, too. Let’s accuse this man of the worst sin he could commit: being a pedophile. You are a woman, yeah? Ask me how I know.
[–]underscorewarrior-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
This is the subreddit description on the sidebar four inches to your right
We are men going our own way by forging our own identities and paths to self-defined success; cutting through collective ideas of what a man is.
Y'all just make it all about women because you're bitter and lonely. Why don't you post about empowering others and bettering yourself? All the posts are just about how dumb women are. Subreddit reads like a divorced men's club instead of a group about finding oneself.
And if you somehow still truly believe all these posts are about men going on their own way "from women", then how are you gunna go your own way, away from women, and then still just talk about women incessantly for the rest of your lives.
Like explain to me how a screenshot of a tweet that a feminist wrote is helping you, as a man, to "Go Your Own Way". How is that type of post bettering you as a community or you as a person?
Just the fact that you assumed I'm a woman, for starters, and then used that "information" to attempt to discredit my opinion tells me everything I need to know about your beliefs and what you aim to get out of this subreddit
https://imgur.com/3vyJZVM
[–]nnfl0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh shit, it’s that boogie guy!
So you’re not a woman but a fellow slave trying to round us back to the plantation. I don’t know if you need to lurk more or if you’re being purposely stupid, but the fact of the matter is that we live in a gynocentric society, and the memes about women or the posts relating to them ring true for a lot of us because we’ve had similar experiences or we’ve witnessed great men throw it all away for some woman. I like the self-improvement posts here as much as the next guy, but there’s nothing wrong with pointing out flaws in the system, and there’s nothing wrong with posting stories relating to women to remind us of the bullets we can dodge. You claim that we’re not valid because we have posts that focus on a woman’s nature, and you want to tell us what we should be focusing on, you concern troll? How about I use my logic on you, if you despise us and think we’re beneath you, so much so that you actually had to flaunt your neckbeard to us, then what exactly are you doing here?
[–]underscorewarrior-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
what exactly are you doing here?
It’s like going to a zoo, but sadder
Aight retard, enjoy.
[–]MgtowAutumn0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
People like you use this argument all the time and somehow think it makes sense. Men are biologically addicted to women. The sub is about breaking that addiction and essentially a counterculture lifestyle. This is like wondering why Alcoholics Anonymous talk about alcohol so much and share their horror stories when it’s something they’re trying to avoid. No part of MGTOW ever claims we don’t talk about women, so this “got you!” argument is just retarded if you take about two seconds of time to consider it.
If going our own way includes badmouthing women then that’s on us. You can judge the actions and call it bitter, but acting like it’s hypocritical is just idiotic
[–]underscorewarrior0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Alcoholics Anonymous is Alcoholics Anonymous.
The word alcohol is in the name. The entire thing is about alcohol.
This is MGTOW. It should be a community of men who work together to better themselves. My dad is in a Men’s Group IRL. Guess what they do? They do charity work and projects around town doing light work for people who need it
They don’t sit in a circle and all talk about how much they hate their wives.
Stop being addicted to pseudo science and realize that YOU are the problem with your life. You can come to reddit and cry and complain and bitch and moan and surround yourself in your safe space bubble as much as you want but mocking women from afar is going to right the ship.
This subreddit was a cool idea but you all reek of incel now
[–]EsotericEye36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Women are emotionally intelligent.
Most women in general aren't emotionally intelligent, intelligence implies maturity. Most women are actually emotionally inadequate, manipulative and entitled, which they mistake for emotional intelligence and maturity.
Their emotional immaturity shows whenever they don't get their way, i.e., giving their partner the cold shoulder, complaining about trivial things, being indecisive and uncooperative, constantly arguing when they don't get what they want, making a scene in public to spite the partner, guilt-tripping their partner, expecting their partner to always pay for everything as if he's her parent, etc.
When someone understands how emotions work and then abuses that knowledge by manipulating people for personal gain, then it doesn't make them emotionally intelligent. On the contrary, that actually signifies lack of intelligence. If someone reflected and understood that their behavior or actions were causing emotional harm or abuse to another and stopped doing it again, then they'd be emotionally intelligent. From my experience, women very rarely change their bad behavior and instead they get really offended and livid whenever any issue is brought up with their behavior or actions.
[–]Shiva-The_Destroyer2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Comment of the day!
[–]NoMammMan1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
God damn.... everything you've said makes sense in the most logical of ways dude. The only possible flaw that I can see in it, which goes against what you've pointed out, is the fact that most women are actually highly intelligent enough to apply there manipulative tactics onto men because they're lazy and evil, and they've been getting away with it forever without most of us guys being aware of their scheming ass gynocentic hypergamous social bullshit. They might act like a dumb immature evil baby, (which most of them are) but what do they care as they've got us doing all the heavy lifting and footwork for them and so on???? What do they care, as they're tyranical shit is always easily overlooked, forgiven, accepted, as they're generally seldomly ever shamed/ridiculed/ostracized/punished held accountable for anything wrongfully unethical and sinister that they do within our society especially when the shit is being done towards anybody that's come into this world having a penis. Women could very well be highly intelligent on seemingly very rare occasions that they're in control of their delusional emotions with the ability to empathize or sympathize with us men, but all of that shit only comes out during the occasions that they're trying hard to virtue signal themselves into the position of securing and establishing themselves amongst more ethical social peers or the process of enslaving a man so they can cheat and rape men on every unimaginable aspect of life. So, in actuality, women on average are intelligent on a level that's sometimes seemingly conscious and unconscious... which one is it? Or which one is it more of??? None of us men actually know enough about them to be as accurately certain about their asses anywhere near the certainty that women know most of enjoy a good blow job and a sandwich🥪 😉 so they've got us all mind fucked and fooled ethier which way that we'd like to make the predictive assumptions of shit with these crazy cunt whores to be...the only thing we can be extremely accurate about now, is that most of them are calculatingly selfish evil user ass slut bitches that are incapable of loving in the definitions of what it means to love somebody or as men are capable of loving and want to be loved, and that women are some crazy ass unstable bitches that can't keep true to their words and have no loyalty or sense of real honor and value for the most part of any shit these days if they ever truly did at all. As MEN that don't want to be abused slaves trapped and tormented on the plantation, We must all just GYOW!
[–]arviman1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well put. I've seen so much emotionally abusive behaviour from highly empathetic women. Empathy ain't sympathy that's for sure.
[–]vxd3869 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
If women would be as emotional intelligent as man, they would be as capable when it comes to creating art. But they aren't.
[–]MotherOfLogic2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
They are, they use it for manipulation. Not all, but most.
[–]vxd38614 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
They're actually bad when it comes to emotional manipulation. It only works because of the pressure of the whole society. You go to jail if you don't do what she wants. Sometimes, you lose your life.
[–]waxrivers2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
To articulate, it's a sad fact now that each new generation of boys is raised primarily by Single Mother Cancer. As such, these young boys are indoctrinated at a young age to cuck.
It's nearly fucking impossible to un-cuck a young man until the moment he gets completely burnt by a female and is open to Red Pills.
Even with the 55% or so voting advantage of females, they would have a lot less political pull if it wasn't for white knight cucks who side with them.
And finally, the Controllers of society also side with women and their natural ability to manipulate men. Women generally follow fads; rules and trends so the Controllers have a much easier time indoctrinating them. In turn, the women indoctrinate the men from a young age.
[–]vxd3860 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Growing up in a single mother household would not be that much of a problem if there would be something to create a balance.
[–]waxrivers0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Like a father?
[–]vxd3860 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For example, but it doesn't have to be the biological father. Just someone who is there for you, who cares for you, who understands your situation and has a positive influence.
I grew up in a single mother household and had no one to talk to, no father figure, no mentor. It was hard to say the least, I had to invent and create everything I needed out of thin air. But it has its advantages too (if you survive the consequences).
[–]mkov8810 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women are ruled by their emotions, usually not self aware of them.
[–]drmangrum4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Women are sociopaths. And like all sociopaths, they understand emotion without feeling it.
[–]Samyueru70 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What? Women sure do feel emotions. Most act purely on how they're feeling with no logic at all present...
[–]kubicas3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
One of the breakthrough moments in my life was when I admitted that I have deep understanding of feelings as a man. Since I was a kid I learned how to dance, understand and feel music, the art, the images and deep message in all of it. I remember having homeworks for analyzing for what was the expression of somebodies dance etc and I always got A and surprised many teachers and class with deep insight into human psyche. But because of social pressures and religion I would hide my emotions, disconnect from myself and try to become someone I am not and that would be an absolute misery for me. That is what you get for betraying YOURSELF! I had depression, I was apathetic, unmotivated, self loathing etc etc like many guys out there. One day I had a breakdown and accepted absolutely who I am and I don't hold back and betray myself anymore. I express my emotions maturely and tell people what I really think about stuff without playing MACHO or other non sense. If anybody tries to shame me, men (yes, fucking men do it too but they admit later they were wrong and basically saying they were playing someone else) and women especially. Damn bro do I give those hoes HELL for doing that and call them out on their crap right in their face and If I have to I will mercilessly hurt them verbally and make them feel like absolutely horrible pieces of shit that they are when doing this kind of gaslighting or any shaming tactic.
Somebody might say... but you are going down to their level doing that or whatever. Fuck yourself and I will always call bitches out. Somebody wants to plant a seed of misery in me and did a lot in the past. Why the fuck would I let it go unpunished? I will strike back and forget it. Ending cases like that gives me peace of mind and never dwelling on anything that was said.
I want to DIE knowing that I was true to myself and others NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE THINKS. I have fucking emotions and don't anyone dare to fuck with me about that ! Always remember that anyone who denies your emotions is denying you a HUMAN experience and I'm not saying become a tantrum throwing baby or cry or walk saddened all the time but know that you possess those emotions and you need a healthy outlet for those, art, music, workout, martial arts or any activity for that matter and sometimes letting someone know about it.
Now do yourself a favor and listen to this GOD and CRY!
https://youtu.be/nubJjB95VdY
You're brave and real ASF for telling it like you feel and see it as it is and standing up for the shit you should in the face of toxic humanoid gynocentism. If all men were to openly constantly do such shit, we'd all be so much more free and liberated from a lot of this shaming nonsensical flaming bullcrap that seemingly could easily be mistaken as shit that could only have come from the far depths of hell itself where only women rule the shit and men are still enslaved down there as well as up over here in this bitch. I'm fairly confident that someday soon, we will be liberated! because more and more men each passing day all over the world are waking up fast and converting towards MGTOW! There's been talk that MGTOW is having far more conversions than anything Christian or Islamic and everything combined due to the accurate TRUTH in everything being told and experienced first hand by men around the globe as it's going mainstream as well.... This is it guys! The begining of the revolution!!!!!!! The revaluations of all straight MEN everywhere! For peace and freedom to no longer be abused disposable slaves to society and genders that do not give a real shit fucks about us in all of their one-sided double standards of hypocrisy and non-existent equality. MGTOW forever!
[–]AlbertCohol2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Emotionally intelligent? Not really. If they were they wouldn’t be slaves to their emotions.
[–]Teflon081912 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mmm, I'd say "emotionally experienced" fits the description better.
[–]TastyGrannyDick1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is false. Women are NOT emotionally intelligent. Emotional intelligence is ones ability to have awareness and control over emotions as to not affect rational behavior and the decision making process under stress or pressure, hence why emotional intelligence is important in business. Typically, most women do not possess this strength. They are the opposite and do not have control over their emotions and express them wildly.
[–]Kellard380 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel: respond to a central point between exactly who you are and exactly what you authentically are to initiate real reality
[–]CastandRefused122 points123 points124 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Never open up to a woman.
[–]Kobe_apologist37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Or do it and learn the lesson first hand...
[–]Patricijaobjectdude36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Some never learn..
You can have all the facts on your side, you can have every single god damn argument on your side, you're prepared for all 129 different versions of how her arguments are gonna go down and you've prepared yourself to handle all of them.
As you come and confront the woman, she'll just grab the ammunition you've supplied her with (aka opening up to her), she'll mention how this is the reason (insert your fear) will come true.
Now you're back to being mistreated and obeying her and hating it while wondering what the fuck happened.
And if you're blue-pilled, you NEVER come to the conclusion that the reason you lost was because she used your openness against you.
[–]waxrivers4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Truth Brother.
Only a foolish man argues with a woman thinking there can be some logical outcome; some common ground or joint agreement.
The women lives to argue and play mind games. She is a machine built for this and she can do this literally all fucking day long. A man goes in thinking she will accept logical points. It's almost as if he thinks the argument with a woman is like fixing a lawnmower or building a deck. He thinks there are logical steps and sensible outcome within a reasonable time frame.
This is of course, not true.
Even in a small argument about the color to paint the walls in the dining room, the woman will simply draw the man into her web of manipulation; inferiority; blame; ridicule and shame and have the man completely questioning his very existence and reason for living once he comes out of it.
[–]Patricijaobjectdude1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Funnily enough you used that example. My mother is set on making me paint my room and set a new wooden the floor. Before, I'd do what mommy told me to for her. Now, I focus on what I personally want, I want to have a new floor but I don't give a shit about repainting the walls.
I used to keep my mouth shut anyway because I knew I couldn't win against her, she'd always have these well researched arguments and logical facts to back up her reasons for always having it her way.
I realized it's all manipulation, so I came to the conclusion that the only way to win is to simply get down on her level; don't give a reason for your decision. Why can whale down on me and keep asking me to give reasons for why I don't want to paint the walls and only want to do the floor. I can think of at least 5 at the top of my head but fuck that, my answer is "I dunno".
It frustrates her, not because I'm acting like a dumbass, but because she can't penetrated my defenses. I'm literally giving her nothing to latch onto for an attack.
I can't tell if this post is autism, trolling, "English is your second language" or drunk. I will forgive all except possible trolling.
she'd always have these well researched arguments and logical facts
I'm assuming here that you are being sarcastic to an extent. Only truly ugly women have a logic gene of any kind. Usually, when women state "facts" or "logic" they are stating something that the hive mind produces. Think politics. Women tend to quote inspirational quotes; astrology dates; popular tweets and the like. It may seem logical to them but they are simply repeating echos from the chamber.
But also, you've understood quite well that even "having an argument" with a woman in the first place only feeds her ability to wear you down and drain you. Part of this comes from their "victim status" in society. When they are loosing an argument, they simply resort to emotional warfare. "You are hurting me Anon. What you are doing/saying is hurting me!" You're indoctrination of gynocentric culture comes into play here. You are made out to be a bully for having an opinion.
Men have truly lost the art form of telling a woman how it is and then ending the discussion (thus starving them of energy). That is how it used to be. That is how it has to be in the future. We've had decades of propaganda telling us to "discuss things with women" which always ends in an episode of playing them playing victim card and never taking an ounce of responsibility.
[–]Patricijaobjectdude1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You basically agreed with me, so.. I agree with you.
I should have probably worded it better, I didn't literally mean she has "well researched arguments and logical facts", I actually meant my mother has a skill of manipulating with words. She has a way of speaking where if you listen to what she says, a single sentence can make you feel like going against what she said would be brain-dead retarded.
Of course, experience has taught me that whenever I listen to her and do stuff her way, I get fucked over.
So I resort to what you've said, instead of giving my reasons or listening to her, I just look internally for what I think the outcome should be, shut the fuck up and keep it to myself, and just say no to her.
This is where she starts throwing those words where you feel like a fucking moron for going against her, it SERIOUSLY sounds like solid logic and level-headed arguments... until you shut her out and keep repeating "No. Okay.. no. I heard you, still no. Are you done? Because I already said no. Why? I dunno. No."
And then she gets emotional and all is clear.
[–]CastandRefused1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Blue pillers will never understand the truth.
[–]Footnote2208 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unless you are trying to cut her off from your life
[–]your_a_idiet3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Even to ones that are just friends they seem so cool and understanding.
Don't.
They are not the same, they will not understand.
[–]KaraBra-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know, I actually did find one who did understand. ONE, among the hundreds of women who I have met and talked to. So imma give that a hard OOF
[–]arviman0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unless she's close family.
[–]247spyz4life55 points56 points57 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Actually 'creep' is sort of a blanket term for anybody a woman wouldn't sleep with. It could be used for any of these descriptions
[–]11112222313828 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
creepy = forward - attractive
[–]chakamaki53 points54 points55 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely true... it’s a Matrix designed for women where man is mare a pawn ... be it as a soldier, as a builder, as a husband, as a father, as a doctor... he is just there to serve.... serve and serve... if you take care of your self.. you are breaking first rule of the matrix of slavery... and then you are a traitor... and hence which rule you broke..that title applies to you... Welcome to the Matrix my friend...
[–]Sneakybobo37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Whatever a man does, he will get blamed. Whatever a woman does, she will get praised.
That's why you don't ever, ever give a shit.
[–]EdwardSandchest2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You dont have to do anything, you will still get blamed.
[–]Paladin290326 points27 points28 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
This is so incredibly true. In 2019, as a male, pretty much anything you do is perceived In some sort of negative way. It’s a rigged game and you cannot win.
The truth is that men are not valued and are considered disposable, because dick is easy to get. Money is about the only equalizer, but then the idiot will only “love” you for the money, and if that’s ever gone, she is too.
The only way to win is to not care and not play. Let people think whatever the fuck they want. 9/10 it isn’t true, anyway. Just try to enjoy your life.
[–]waxrivers2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Male disposability also rises to it's highest level during the last stage of a society. Read the short paper "Fate of Empires" by John Glubb. Most empires last about 250 years or "ten generations of 25 years each". The American Empire is near collapse. Feminism is a symptom of this. Generation Z will be our last generation.
There are all kinds of calls to "dispose of men" basically (in various weasel words spoken by feminists).
What happens after collapse is typically a huge war and an every-man-for-himself situation. Suddenly women become subservient to men then and male disposability becomes a very low number. With that collapse, there is no longer a "State" to protect women. They will seek out individual men to protect them.
[–]Paladin29030 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As bad as this is gonna sound, I think the best thing that could happen to this society is an all-out war. People are just too big of entitled assholes. Barely anyone has real problems (when compared to other countries in shitty shape), and most people are just angry because they aren’t some millionaire high status guy. That’s not a “problem.” Most everyone’s “problems” are all due to jealousy and status. Everyone wants to be the CEO, but they don’t want to put the time, effort, or work in to become him. People are just too fucking entitled.
The great analogy is tech support for Windows XP. Eventually, after trying a 100 fixes and updates you would get told to "Reinstall Windows" like it was nothing. All your bookmarks; preferences and desktop wallpaper become lost.
In Fate of Empires, Glubb begins to suggest that after the 10th generations of society, the people have completely forgotten the forefathers and the sacrifices they made for a Nation. This is closely related to "feminism". In year one, a society strongly cherishes men for fighting the War to bring peace to society. Around year 250, society is literally trying to sterilize and cast out men as being "toxic". Everything that was sacrificed is taken for granted. Women take control and pursue their own selfish lifestyles. They leave their husbands and pass their selfish lifestyles down to their sons and daughters. (Incels and THOTS). Without family, a nation is doomed to collapse.
It is some kind of horrible fate to have an empire build up to incredible strength, only to be ripped apart two centuries later, not by an external army, but internally.
[–]HUTstickerh0tHEAD1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its not about dick. Everybody wants a someone to blame shit on. And in the west its men. The "POS" women who take advantage will always play some sort of victim card.
Yes to them we are disposable and IT IS rigged. We're not allowed to have a support system because of these over entitled WERFS. Men have have to be the aggressor all the time because if not society will see them for what they really are.....
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In a parasitic society, the host the others feed on must always be villified to justify it.
[–]breathen1236 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And the common denominator between most of the villified people in the USA? It's Caucasian, Christian, Heterossexual, Adult and Male, and with a little game of "connect the dots", one can found out who are the parasites:
It's not Caucasian, it's from one or other ethnic group or race
It's not Christian, it's from someone from another religion
It's not Heterossexual, it's either homossexual or bissexual
It's not Adult, meaning it's from someone who's either too old or someone whose mental age is still stuck in the "teenager" or "child" stage
It's not Male, it has to be female
Now, if only there weren't a mysterious force, coming from an unknown place, stopping me from finding out the answer....
[–]Chinchillin0918 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
"Why are men killing themselves?"
[–]andreas-mgtow11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They'd never ask that question.
[–]Shiva-The_Destroyer8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"It's their own fault and they are dead who cares? Women attempt sucide far more often, so it's them we should be concerned about. Also women are the primary victims of male suicide, they lose their fathers, their husbands, their sons. Why aren't you talking about how women have it bad you mysogynist?"
[–]Sr_Nunes19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Man shares wisdom = mansplaining.
MeN nEeD tO ExPrEsS EmoTiONs!
[–]breathen1235 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
What one hears
What is actually said: "Men need to make themselves vulnerable, so that I, female, can exploit them"
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[–]breathen1230 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I still don't understand what this word "gaslighting" means
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[–]breathen1230 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Interesting to know, thank you
[–]BadDad0123418 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yep. And people wonder why male suicide rate is so high.
Oh wait. They don't. No one gives a shit
[–]Careful_Description16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Now post this on /r/unpopularopinion
[–]xmx9002 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It probably would get good attention there as similar posts to this have been posted there with lots of agreement.
[–]Careful_Description0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
with lots of agreement
That is the issue with the sub. They don't want to look at what they don't agree with.
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[–]Careful_Description2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then the mods delete them
[–]KittensAndPizza179 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Malfunctioning but yeah
[–]gjncp7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I showed enthusiasm today and decided to compliment a girl on linkedin DM and she just unfriended me.
[–]breathen1236 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Heartbreaking from your perspective
From her perspective, you're just another online creep, an .png on the screen, representing someone who doesn't have enough cash or testosterone to breed her
[–]justthrowmeout0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What did you say
[–]gjncp0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
you got beautiful smile and keep smiling as much as you can... very polite
either way move on.
[–]justthrowmeout1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's coming on kind of strong for a professional networking site.
[–]FightClubHamster696 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Love yourself fellas. This is a great video
https://youtu.be/BARCTySXdnY
[–]KingDragoX7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The degrees in which women will perceive these things depends on how attractive you are
[–]HNutz6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can't seen to win if you're a guy.
[–]Zhytom6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only thing they are doing with this is projecting.
They can't stand seeing men doing their own thing, so they ridiculize them.
[–]NelsonIllustrator4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The world doesn't care. Being a man is one of the loneliest experiences. I journal a lot to figure out a lot of my emotions. And I look for friends I can trust.
[–]kubicas0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I listen to black and death metal and other heavy metal stuff. Death, Mgła, Dimmu Borgir etc make great music and empowering lyrics. I sometimes shed a tear to that stuff too. I also listen to other music but nothing touches my soul like metal. Also Devin Townsend - Kingdom is just out of this world.
[–]edgysecularist2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
AMEN
[–]BryanSammis3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How sadly true
[–]ekko03692 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have two sons, 18 and 14. They're looking for life guidance/advice from me. Mom. Knowing women for 51 years I want to tell them to never marry or have kids. Am I doing a disservice to them? Truth is I've seen the manipulation , destruction of so many. And don't want to have to kick someone's ass bc they tried to destroy my sons. My husband passed away and I stayed alone bc I didn't want to burden another man or put my boys in a situation where they would be stuck with someone forced in their family. My instinct is to tell them to stay single but if that fair? Am I too cynical???
[–]Zombocom19112 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man flushes all these demonic succubae down the toilet, and ceases to listen to their hateful, self-serving screeching = self preservation of wealth and sanity
[–]breathen1232 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A man who gets used and abused by women, yet still express happiness, is nothing more than a wimp, lowering himself to the level of dogs, a man who is contempt with letting her girlfriend/wife to get railed on by thousands of men, while he's distracted with whatever FOTM(Flavor of the Month) it is released for Nintendo's Switch
This was left out because it requires an explanation, a context, and yet, it needed to be there
[–]heartfelt241 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn, I don't like angry and sad people either.
[–]whats_up_doc1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Man not giving a shit = MGTOW
[–]JeddieBell0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
🤣😂
[–]Jarin011 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Never share your feelings with a woman. Women are only good for one thing and they are only slightly better than a bottle of Jergens and a sock at that.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the only time I was ever allowed to express sadness was with my therapist and anonymous online services ... most women stopped talking to me if I ever seemed depressive
[–]ShadowShadowed0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just grow out a thin, scraggly beard and smile wide with your mouth open.
[–]ohgawdwhyme4560 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
breakup from your relationship= realizing how much silence is better than sex.... leads to self actualization
With women it's only seen as a positive if she wants to fuck you.
[–]CJNoir0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's what the actual expression is that matters here, not the feelings behind them so this is mischaracterizing the situation
When someone claims EVERYTHING you do, no matter how much one action is the opposite of another, is defined as "toxic", they're coming from a place of pure contempt and hatred, not reason.
[–]tashtusher0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I mean damn nobody's calling you these words unless you actually act like them. You people of this subreddit act like "men" yet you are so fucking desperate for anything that validates you for your genuinely absurd way of thought.
[–]novhaku0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
What a retard.
Sure. So people are calling women worthless, hypocritical and "toxic" because they are then. Problem solved. Likewise, religion basically considered women as property that you must control otherwise they'll ruin everything and everyone for centuries because it was a die-hard fact that everyone knew and that was 100% right, making all of this right as well. Surely there is no other factor into play here.
Your logic sounds absolutly great. I like it. Another one that doesn't know what he's talking about, be it about this sub or women. How typical. Sure, hearing the truth is harsh the first few times. Well, you're beyond any salvation anyway, this "nobody's calling you these words unless you actually act like them" is a very clear sign of it.
[–]Fallen_Angiel-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Perhaps, only perhaps though, calling people "retards" is one of the reasons why someone would call you toxic.
Maybe it's just my opinion, who knows?
[–]novhaku0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Don't say retarded things and you won't be called a retard.
See? This argument is awesome.
[–]Fallen_Angiel0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't insult people randomly by using a mental illness over their opinions and you won't be called "toxic", among others.
[–]novhaku0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh look, a poor snowflake that is offended when you use a mental illness. Poor you.
I'll insult whoever I want when they are saying nonsense. Particularly when they also directly insult people themselves by implying that if an idiot is calling you something, they MUST be right and you are an asshole since people obviously never do this out of malice. People don't exactly like to be called things they aren't, and when it's something negative it is an insult. This isn't an opinion. It's a direct attack on people who were already shat on, by shifting the blame on them, and anyone that already eexperienced abuse know exactly what this is about, so yeah, he is retarded and who gives a fuck about his """opinion""" that is just a nice and convenient way to refuse to aknowledge a real problem by randomly insulting/blaming others and defending dangerous people, since "if someone says it then it's true and YOU ARE this!". Manipulative AF. If to you reacting to this this way is "toxic" then you have a serious problem and are extremely selective in what you choose to aknowledge. Your own problem.
[–]SelahattinOzdemir0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Btw if an ugly man acts happy some girls will try their best to change that
[–]Lacrimosa2k70 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
These rabbit droppings of shaming language are still being used today? Man....male shaming language is like a proper windows 10 update, rarely every comes, and if it does the content is always not worth the attention.
[–]TheUnholyBlade0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man expresses bitter resentment and self pity about his virginity, while blaming and hating women instead of taking time to become a better person = incel.
[–]Fallen_Angiel-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Uh, yes but actually no? I mean, perhaps it is just my point of view but aren't men people? And people kinda have feelings? And shouldn't feelings be able to be expressed?
I mean, again, just my opinion, I do know that some people still have the XVth century idea of "men should be strong and not cry" etc, but I'm sure most people, especially in the era we're living in, are against it because, as I previously pointed out, men are human too.
Could we just please stop equalizing or comoaring toxic behaviours with basic human emotions, as it is not the feeling but what one does with it. For example, one thing is being pissed at someone and calmly talking it out or leaving, another thing is expressing it in a violent (either physical or verbal) way. Thank you guys for your time.
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