I stopped drinking alcohol because i hate the effects of it, i'm living in France lol, any ideas how i can substitute it in dates? I'm thinking about keeping a bottle of wine in my places if ever a girl comes, but don't plan on drinking it at all. What do you guys think? How would you handle dates?

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Title I stopped drinking alcohol because i hate the effects of it, i'm living in France lol, any ideas how i can substitute it in dates? I'm thinking about keeping a bottle of wine in my places if ever a girl comes, but don't plan on drinking it at all. What do you guys think? How would you handle dates?
Author Ta9afire
Upvotes 66
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Date 30 May 2020 05:03 PM UTC (11 months ago)
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[–]Rolfenstien195 points196 points  (5 children) | Copy

You don’t drink alcohol, then don’t drink alcohol on a date. Fuck whatever the bitch In front of you is saying, do what you want.

[–]2319Skew126 points127 points  (4 children) | Copy

Speak for yourself. I always keep some heroin and cocaine just in case a guest comes by. That's just good manners.

[–]fretty55527 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's what I call a good host

[–]JameisBong9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I keep a bottle of coronavirus, she might want one, always be ready.

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[–]2319Skew2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nice try officer.

[–]binrobinro100 points101 points  (20 children) | Copy

You're way too worried about what other people think.

[–]a_zen_Psychonaut33 points34 points  (17 children) | Copy

Lmao someone has never been to France. It’s the fucking culture there

[–]frappuccinoCoin19 points20 points  (6 children) | Copy

So? It's also the culture to he blue pilled.

[–]a_zen_Psychonaut1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Yea ik and lose every war. But your logic is so flawed tho, French girls are obsessed with alch. if you wanna pick up girls in France you need alch. This isn’t brain surgery.

[–]LethalShade5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

You're 100% wrong. I've been to France too. If you have strong frame, girls follow. If you have weak frame, you follow cultural norms. Do whatever you want regardless though.

[–]a_zen_Psychonaut-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Or maybe just have the best of both worlds, become attractive, and follow norms.... why u wanna be a rebel so bad lmao

[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's enjoyable but not a drug I really felt the need to continue to use so I stopped altogether. I figure it will help keep me looking young too.

Alcohol is great at drying and aging the skin. I want to look 25 when I'm 35, 35 when I'm 45.

[–]ovrload1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

More fucking cope, if you’re tall and good looking girls don’t care if you don’t consume alcohol

[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean21 points22 points  (9 children) | Copy

It's the "culture" in America too. You will get shit tested for not drinking.

[–]a_zen_Psychonaut9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy

For sure. As an American who does not drink often, I tend to prefer smoking. However smoking isn’t always socially acceptable, so even I drink a beer or 2, it’s just considered the norm. No need to be “eDgY” lmfao

[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

No doubt. Alcohol is great and it's a hell of time getting hammered but people that choose to be sober have their reasons.

OP says he doesn't like the effects which is pretty strange to hear if he's talking about the psychoactive effects but he's talking about the physical toll the next day I completely get that.

For me personally, fitness/bodybuilding has become a significant part of my life and I feel 100x better refraining from alcohol. However, occasional few shots of liquor I'll do. I think everybody following TRP should experience going out sober while everybody around is drinking. It's a great way to strengthen frame. Pretty sure that pick up artist guy on YT, short balding ginger guy with big beard, is completely sober and I'm sure he pulls women all the time.

[–]Ta9afire[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

OP here. Yeah when i was talking about the effects it was on gains and testosterone, sleep, and all that shit. Plus i just don't like the taste of it. I used to love getting drunk and enjoy parties and shit but not now. Simple as that

[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Right, I don't think many people realize how much alcohol affects sleep.

And if you are into maximizing your health, gains, or performance, sleep is everything in regards to recovery and hormone optimization.

[–]adicille4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I also don’t enjoy alcohol and drink it only on a rare occasion. I do however enjoy opiates, benzodiazepines, stimulants, psychedelics, cannabis etc. I just think it’s a shitty drug after using so many others. I’d rather take a benzo than have a few drinks, you also don’t get a hangover. Alcohol is a toxic drug, it’s a known carcinogen. This alone isn’t a reason to abstain from occasional use, but altogether it’s just a really shitty drug and there are better options available. It’s a shame governments banned drugs and drug research, we may have had dozens of safe and legal intoxicants to enjoy ourselves with by now. For the moment however we will have to keep breaking the law.

[–]a_zen_Psychonaut2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I have the exact same taste in drugs. Cheers hahahaha

[–]BKLager1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He listed basically every category of drug tho lmao. You guys are fucking druggos lol. I’m a hypocrite though cause I am too

[–]pdiggs15004 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not the same as the American drinking culture.

I understand exactly where OP is coming from, as I've lived in France as well. The stereotype of "wine is everything" is spot on. A Frenchman without wine is a rare sight. You'll find wine at work, at home, picnics, part of a meal, and if you go to someone's house, even your buddies house, and show up without wine, that could be considered as an insult. On the streets of Paris, I remember wine was cheaper than water.

Part of this wine culture is that its soo cheap to buy, a good quality wine here in the US would be at least $15+. You can find much better quality wines in France for 2-3 Euros.

[–]RevolutionaryPea71 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

While I agree with not giving a fuck, for some reason the necessity of having a drink is very deeply engrained in people. It genuinely creeps people out if they're drinking but you're not. I reckon it's some kind of evolutionary thing (animals tend to drink together from the same place). So I wouldn't try to go completely maverick, just have a soft drink and drink it very slowly (if you're thirsty, always drink water).

[–]binrobinro0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I always have diet soda when my friends order beer or wine. One actually took me aside and said he liked this not drinking thing. (I didn't know it was a 'thing')

[–]undercovergex2234 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

Drink Perrier instead. Let her get drunk if she wants.

[–]zeekt1210 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I mean i dont think the issue is with drinking, its more so the binge drinking culture, but obviously no alcohol is better than having any.

Just have 1 or 2 drinks to let loose a little, if not just get a diet soda

[–]cracksniffer66611 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

Go to a bar, offer the first round. Get soda water and lime, with a cocktail straw. Get non-alcoholic beer for your house, and put them in a coozie. Get non-alcoholic sparkling wine, and a bottle of prosecco for them.

You could always take dates on hikes/urban hikes, or activities that will make you not want to drink. There are many avenues. Source: Bartender.

[–]Longgbottom1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This was insightful. As somebody who never tasted alcohol I didn't know about this.

[–]RevolutionaryPea70 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I stopped drinking a few years ago. Realised that alcohol just made everything worse. Learning about lime and soda was a godsend. It's cheap, pretty low in sugar and looks just enough like a "proper" drink to keep people happy. You can't be that weirdo drinking water or nothing at all.

[–]cracksniffer6660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Also, that "mio" stuff if you wanna really convince someone.

[–]umizumiz20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy


If you don't drink, you don't drink.

Keeping wine isn't a bad idea if not having alcohol has proved a problem in the past. Other than that, there's nothing inherently wrong with not drinking.

[–]reddit_man646 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t do heroin and that is not going to change for some chick. I can still hang out with heroin chick if I want to. Perspective.

[–]BetaMale696 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just say you dont drink and get a non-alcoholic drink. This post shows you didn't bother to read anything bout TRP.

[–]mechcoder5982 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Change alcohol to cigarettes, and you have your answer.

[–]febreze_air_freshner3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

install a cooler in your car and fill it with Capri sun

[–]salezman124 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy


The whole thing we are doin here in TRP is what we want for our own sake. You don't have to justify any action to any woman.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

where is the fucking problem? you don't drink. period. and you also don't want a woman that tastes and smells like a clochard, which is why you also don't have any alcohol at home.

drinking alcohol is a self.destructive habit with absolutely no benefits. why the fuck would you worry about other people knowing that you are somebody who cares about his body and mind?

who gives a fuck about the opinions of the retards? fuck them. they are weak.

[–]empatheticapathetic2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would also lol if i lived in France

[–]CookieAdmiral2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stop overthinking fella. This is a truly stupid question. Go on a coffee date, go to a fruit smothie shop, a bar even (just don't drink alcohol). You can even say something like "I like to take care of my body so I don't drink alcohol anymore". Shows you are determined and not an unhealthy slob.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

youll be playing on hard mode, you better learn some jokes bitch

[–]Guarnerre19954 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Good on you mate. Fucking a drunk girl is easy, staying sober both and then fucking is great.

How many times did I hear guys telling me how they needed alcohol to loosen up the chick to get them to sleep with them. Just to hear the next morning it was a mistake

[–]throaway4000s0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

the beer goggles are real

[–]Kakashi_hatake7073 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just be upfront and tell them that you do not drink because of the side effects it has on you.

If they are worth keeping around then they should not have a problem with it.

[–]snehehsb1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Keeping wine or liquor is what a good host does. If you don't drink then don't. If she shit tests you over it handle it like any other shit test.

[–]Schroder88231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't drink on the date "because you have to drive". Invite her home, and then offer her a drink there. Pour the drinks in the kitchen outside of her view, fill your glass with grape juice, and hers with wine. Bingo.

[–]Rooftre11en1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should find a girl with similar I interests. Fuck alcohol. If you wanna date girls who drinks then do so, otherwise, don't.

[–]MegaNoobOverload90001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

1€ coffee or chips, cheapest 1st date

[–]TheRedApprentice1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't drink either. I only go on dates with women who don't care that I don't drink. Easiest way to handle it.

[–]RivenHalf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why do you need booze for a date? Calm down Bill Cosby. There are other sober people in the world believe it or not.

[–]NobodyP10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Date ideas I’m not sure but saying your a recovering alcoholic would help.

[–]a_zen_Psychonaut0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Look I would definitely keep some nice shit around if a girl wants it, that’s classy. I prefer to smoke anytime over drinking, but in France alch is a big norm, so sometimes you gotta make sacrifices to get laid

[–]Lalocal4life0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If she is interested in you she won't care one bit if you don't drink. If she is really interested in you she will prefer it when she can drink and you drive. I received calls EVERY week from women who want to join my "crew" on the weekends and I don't drink because it DESTROYS my gains in the gym. I never will.

[–]ultragigajigga0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

GBL, mogs it into oblivion, much more euphoria, improves sexual performance (opposite of whiskey dick), makes you smooth as casanova, no hangover and blasts you with HGH for gainz

Alcohol is for subhuman boomers, its a drug for peasants

[–]cap_wap_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't do drugs to look cool.

[–]alleyteris0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sparkling water and squeezed lime in a short Glass

[–]alphakari0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When a girl confronts your frame, just look for the arrogance and stupidity and you'll always find it.

If a girl is at the point where she thinks she can imply what you can or can't do, it's best she learn a lesson about that early. If she can't accept that, she'd be a shitty plate.

[–]anonbast0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If I'm at home and I don't drink alcohol, I would have some non-alcoholic beverages, such as water, tea, coffee, etc. Offering the girl some of that would work great.

[–]Gawernator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Unless you're an actual alcoholic, the benefit of a glass of red wine is pretty good. I suggest you move to a different country, you picked the wrong one to be scared of wine in LOL

[–]investorthemolester0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would tell anyone that asks, "I don't drink alcohol because I hate the effects of it"

[–]IXseed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't drink alcohol

[–]KettleLogic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think it'd be more awkward to not drink with her. I don't like the vibe. Say she can bring something but you don't like how it makes you feel.

I suggest you come up with better ideas for dates that aren't at nighttime. A girl would go crazy for it if you got the energy to do something more exciting. Maybe dates at arcades / picnics / hikes

there a list of shit you could try and suggest to the girl.

[–]Original_Username70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Drink Kava instead.

[–]ADrugAgainstWar0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I was like you for a couple years, got shit tested by people a lot for not drinking. Then I went the opposite way. Started drinking but learned a lot about alcohol and the different kinds, what I did was to go the more expensive stuff not that the more expensive is always better. I went for tasting it instead of just gulping it down to get shit faced. Now I limit how much I drink and avoid being drunk, because I can't taste what I'm having. So I ebjoy alcohol even more without the downsides, but also I have knowledge of it and can actually talk about it to people and makes me look more mature. So you might want to give this a try if not then go for idgaf attitude.

[–]Ta9afire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah i prefer the idgaf road. I don't have time to allocate to a useless culture i'm not interested in.

[–]Ricky4690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you don't want to drink don't. Booze can lead to problems for some. Let your dates drink that's their business. Drink beverages you like. I get culturally having wine for guests is French so have a bottle if someone comes over but drink what you like. I'm not a big drinker myself. Occasional beer and scotch, I'm an American and it's multicultural here so people like different things. Never explain why you don't drink wine just state you like whatever you drink. No body can make you do what you don't want to. I love steak if I'm out with a vegetarian I'll order my steak but won't try to force her to eat meat that's her choice. If I invited her over and I knew she was vegetarian already if be polite and serve her an appropriate dish, being red pill doesn't mean rude. Be your own man.

[–]alphajbieber0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Invite them for hookah+tea, or weed if that's your thing.

[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Guessing dude is trying to be sober completely consider alcohol is the tamest substance there is.

[–]JivePorpoise1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Liqour is "tamer" than pot? How do you mean? Like bud is federally illegal but thats about all I can think of. If you abuse any substance you'll suffer. Drinking too much is likely just as bad as smoking the devils lettuce. Marijuana has multiple beneficial effects whereas I'm sure there are (glass of red wine a night for cardiac health for example) beneficial effects of alcohol, there are significant risks that come with over consumption. I'm not condemning alcohol at all, I enjoy it occasionally to great extent. I'm just curious about how alcohol could be less tame than bud. I'm definitely biased I'd much rather pray to budda than drink Budweiser after a long day.

[–]Gawernator1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

One beer is less intoxicating than smoking I'd say.

[–]JivePorpoise0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Oh yeah its still smoke I'm not saying its harmless.

[–]Gawernator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m just saying it’s a lot easier to control your intoxication level with alcohol, unless you use like a liquid tincture of thc or something

[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Tamer in the sense that it is easier to obtain (in U.S.), normalized in many family households, common social experience, etc.

Not debating at all the health effects of marijuana vs. alcohol. There is a reason pro-athletes almost exclusively will smoke bud over drinking. And numerous anecdotes of marijuana helping psychologic/neurologic problems like PTSD, epilepsy, anxiety, etc. Even CBD is starting to become mainstream for joint pain in old timers. Any potential benefit of alcohol is significantly over-exaggerated IMO and really just attempted confirmation bias for those that drink.

[–]JivePorpoise0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh yeah I totally agree. Alcohol has been around for a few thousand years its literally a part of history, I dont see it going anywhere despite its negatives.

[–]1DullIntroduction0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Do something else then. Even at a bar, you can just drink less, or not at all.

[–]42986Lombardy-4 points-3 points  (5 children) | Copy

You dont have to justify shit or offer an explanation to why you dont drink. Dont keep the bottle of wine either thats sum beta shit

[–]umizumiz7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Keeping a bottle of wine is beta shit.

Might be the most retarded shit I've ever heard.

"You have any beer or wine or anything? I'm like, sooooo, thirsty."

"Damn sure do."

"Ew, gross. Nevermind, you're a faggot. Putting my top back on and leaving."

That's never happened btw

[–]chipmaster116 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

fully agreed wtf, pouring a thotty a nice glass of red will get her wet a

[–]pjordanx0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Totally agree bro. Infact keeping a bottle of anything is sum beta shit. Real alphas hold their liquids in paper cups or drink them on the spot

[–]42986Lombardy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Looks like i got my balls torched here. Idk just seems like if you dont drink wine and you offer a girl some at your place it shows that you’re doing it to “make her happy”

[–]Ta9afire[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I only have strict diet food in my place,i don't know it's a good idea not having food/drinks for people that come to my place and don't necessarly workout or monitor their diet. Specially girls.

But thanks for your answer though.

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