Women make me wait for sex when they find out I am a doctor. How to avoid this?

PraetereoBonobos · 2016-11-27T05:26:16+00:00

Yeah sounds like you are giving up to much. Make information about you and time with you currency, and use it to trade for sex. Sounds crude but everything in life consists of transactions and you are giving up your profits easily so why shouldn't they hold out?

[deleted] · 2016-12-04T03:14:50+00:00

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Sepean · 2016-11-27T09:09:30+00:00

You're hamstering.

You don't have the attractiveness and alpha to pull girls with that, that's your problem. You do have the beta qualities to attract them with that, but that's the wait-for-vanilla-sex-then-dead-bedroom-once-we're-married route.

it pisses me off seeing men who I feel have achieved less get treated better

Bro, get your head out of your ass. If you got your MD to get pussy you wasted your time. It's alpha that turn girls on: looks, frame and game. They don't care how hard you worked or how talented you are, that's nothing compared to a tall, cocky dude on gear.

redditatt · 2016-11-27T08:08:52+00:00

Well stop dressing like a catalog, and avoid the job talk with jokes;

Girl: "what do you do?"

You: "i work at the hospital"

Girl: "Ohh what do you do there?"

You: "heal people, obviously. I'm a shaman."

A_Crabby_Patty · 2016-11-27T16:05:01+00:00

Think of a Joseph a Banks catalog

Whenever I think of jos a bank, I think of buying one suit and getting 9 more for free

2cingle · 2016-11-27T06:29:54+00:00

Whenever I am at a bar or on a date as soon as the fact that I am doctor comes up she will try and withhold sex until she gets commitment.

Really, how many times has this happened?

A couple things to think about:

Are you relating that on a first date, or a first meeting, that the women start to talk about commitment? That fast? And you're sure that you're not telegraphing that as your goal?

What are you saying that makes them walk away from you? You're telling them that you're not currently able to be in a LTR on the first date and they're walking away?

Why aren't you dating women in their mid-late twenties?

How bright do you think barflies are?

deadwoodcylon · 2016-11-27T21:41:32+00:00

Don't date women older than 25.

If you choose to see women older than that, make it very clear in the beginning that you're FWB only, but only if your game is airtight, otherwise if she has good game (and most if not all women do), she'll find a way to weasel out of FWB mode and into LTR mode and eventually a ring on her finger which means half and more of your assets.

All_Ads_Deceive · 2016-11-27T04:51:40+00:00

Same as anyone else. Get her to your house, escalate and if she doesn't put out after 3 times hanging out. Next. Also, going on dates sets you up as a BB right away. Meet with a woman for drinks or invite her over to your house

TheBlackAlistar · 2016-11-27T04:52:37+00:00

Only thing I can think of is just lie to them, or just avoid answering the question if you don't want to lie.

thor_away92 · 2016-11-27T14:32:25+00:00

You mean like a shit test?

Archwinger · 2016-11-27T15:42:44+00:00

Any time a woman asks what you do for a living, say that you're a spy. If she continues to press and get really insistent, making it obvious that she's screening you for earning potential, move on.

GreenPiller · 2016-11-27T19:02:00+00:00

Dude, you should already know doctors are always placed in the beta bucks category by default. If you think being a doctor will get you pussy then you couldnt be more wrong. Women will always want to settle down with a doctor just so they can brag about it to their friends. Use those 6 figures you make per year,buy a nice car, get jacked, and tell them you're a drug dealer. It may not make sense.to you right now but that's women logic for you.

oggurt · 2016-11-27T15:19:59+00:00

"Docta! Docta! Give me the news, I gotta baaaad caseee of not fuuuuckin you!"

a_regular · 2016-11-27T08:28:24+00:00

If the topic of what you do comes up, take it as a shit test and say youre a janitor at McDonalds or some shit. After you smash, letting out that youre a doctor can only help you if you play your cards right.

[deleted] · 2016-11-27T10:35:06+00:00

"I'm a nurse"

quicklogaccount · 2016-11-27T15:34:00+00:00

It's worth going long on this one. But DO hit the sidebar, doc.

The game you're playing has different goals for you and for the girl you're hanging out with. This is the first thing to bear in mind. You are there to get laid, she is there to get cared for.
The FRAMES will determine who's playing and who's giving the cards on the table. Who's pursuing his goal by offering the other what (s)he wants, and who's judging a candidate there.
In an even field, the most attractive one lays the cards. In the usual field we play, the woman will lay the cards and you'll qualify yourself.

Now, what is happening is, she is giving the cards and expecting you to qualify yourself, because on her age (early 30s, late 20s), she has learned this is how she plays best.

Fortunately for you, you are no ordinary player, so, there are some strategies you can employ. I guess they'd be variations of these two.
The first one is capitalizing on your elevated value to get her to change the rules. Picture a simpleton entering a bank wanting to open an investment account, then telling the banker he'd like some of the funds he invests with them to be put at company Z. The manager tells him "we don't do that", and suddenly the simpleton tells "ok, I guess I'll go elsewhere". The manager will think "pathetic crazy dude", until he finds out that happened to be some eccentric billionaire. Then he'll run after him and apologize.
I guess you can think of a few ways to do this.
Just for the sake of illustrating, you can simply set a second date at your place, tell her you'll cook or she will, maybe tell her there will be alcohol. No need to tell her there will be sex overtly, it's easy to covertly tell her you expect it. Or you might even do it overtly. Who cares.
Second strategy is to lay the cards REALLY early on. "I've been committed for a while, my self righteousness is on vacation now." / "I've been going on so many first dates these days, hard to find a decent gal" / "Don't get yourself stuffed, you'll need stamina."
That's not really some move I can afford to make, so I'm in theory here, but I guess that's the catch.
First one would be an AB frame because you don't take commitment from the table, you just let her know sex comes "now".
The second one would be the AF frame, you don't let her bring commitment to the table and bring sex. She has to offer good sex to qualify for commitment.

TheRedStoic · 2016-11-27T15:41:55+00:00

Act only as a reward.

You get good sex? Reward her with a snippet of attention.

She starts withholding for commitment, soft next and dread.

[deleted] · 2016-11-27T16:12:43+00:00

When I'm successful and make 6 figures (hopefully out of college, if not definitely before I'm 30) I'll purposefully hide my wealth so that women don't see me as beta bucks. You want them to see you as an alpha they can fuck and then move on from, that is if you want to have sex with as many women as possible (I want a 3 digit N count before 30).

Otherwise, if they see you as a long term thing, then they will purposefully withhold sex because they don't want to seem like a slut.

So you need to amplify your physical traits while downplaying things like your intelligence and your money.

Probably a ruthless way of operating but shit, women are pretty fucking ruthless themselves.

Practical tips?

wear clothes that emphasise your physique, but not clothes that show your wealth.
be a loud mouth, be arrogant and be pushy. Most intelligent people aren't like this naturally, but it's a panty wetter for sure. You want to give the impression that you do what you want and you don't give a fuck about what people think. Also makes you seen less intelligent and therefore easier to manipulate. I'm convinced many women are actually intimidated by intelligent men as they're harder to manipulate.
start a combat sport. I'm going to start boxing training when my exams are finished. There's nothing like the adrenaline of being in a fight. Makes me really feel alive.

leftajar · 2016-11-27T16:57:20+00:00

Easy fix: don't tell them you're a doctor.

deci-mator · 2016-11-27T18:36:32+00:00

They moment you mention your profession they estimate your income. From there they can deduce how big of a meal ticket they can get. Which is why they withhold sex. So that they have something to bargain with.

ANGRY_ATHEIST · 2016-11-27T19:26:00+00:00

Whenever I am at a bar or on a date as soon as the fact that I am doctor comes up she will try and withhold sex until she gets commitment

Hold on a second, this does not follow. Are you walking up to women in bars and asking if they'll have sex with you?

If you're still in the meeting/escalating phase, then of course she's "withholding", even through LMR. That's her job. Escalating is your job, and it sounds like you're just failing a classic shit test. You need to read more sidebar.

Maybe your end game is an LTR with a good woman, which is why you're still trying to follow the "traditional" dating model. For right now though you need to be spinning plates. You'll find that passing these types of shit tests with high SMV women is a lot easier when you have 3 or 4 other women on call at any given time.

lLoveLamp · 2016-11-27T19:41:05+00:00

If I were you, I wouldnt tell them I'm an MD. Keeps the mystery alive.

Apexk9 · 2016-11-27T20:01:13+00:00

Intimate if they give resistance tell them to get out.

LordThunderbolt · 2016-11-30T20:42:31+00:00

Maybe you should stop going to bars with your lab coat and stetoscope on.

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-12-01T15:05:14+00:00

Women tend to let loose the most during sex when they have nothing to lose. They can relax at that time. This is why poor guys get laid more, girls rather fuck a stranger than their boyfriends etc. People quickly jump to say AF/BB but this isn't the explanation. Yes proper Alpha game will compensate for the ASD these bitches show you.

But the truth of the matter is that the more chips are on the table, the less likely she's gonna be to spread out on all fours and beg for degrading shit. Even though she wants it.

This is why you either hide what you have or outgame it. Just remember that those guys you see whom are getting easier lays. Only do so out of the insecurity of women. They aren't a risk.

[deleted] · 2017-02-11T06:23:34+00:00

Find sluttier women down for ONS. Really? You're a doctor and you couldn't figure this out?

[deleted] · 2016-11-27T17:28:28+00:00

Tell her your a pilot not a doctor.

Title	Women make me wait for sex when they find out I am a doctor. How to avoid this?
Author	radioactive_md
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Date	November 27, 2016 4:31 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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