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["SHOCKING!"/s] "Sexual offending by women is surprisingly common, claims US study"

iamnotfromtexas90

July 11, 2017
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Title ["SHOCKING!"/s] "Sexual offending by women is surprisingly common, claims US study"
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iamnotfromtexas90

Upvotes 832
Comments 63
Date July 11, 2017 12:47 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6mlzg1/shockings_sexual_offending_by_women_is/
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[–]p3ngwin 172 points173 points174 points 9 years ago* (14 children) | Copy Link

“We call for feminist approaches – expansively interpreted – to challenge these stereotypes, making room to consider women who are abusive, power seeking, and sexually aggressive, while taking into account the troubled background many such women possess,” the researchers concluded. “Those victimised by women are doubly harmed when we fail to treat their abuse as worthy of concern.”

Once again, even when women offend, they must be treated with compassion and treatment, because when women offend, it must be justified.

When men offend, it's because they are inherently monsters fueled by toxic masculinity.

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points51 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women are seen as victims and men are seen as transgressors, every time.

[–]mwobuddy 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have the distinct impression that people who are sexually harassing don't believe they're doing it; hence why, in the past, men were such prolific 'harassers' and women now are getting to be that way, because now women have near-equality in terms of 'driver-seat sexuality', where they must also be sexually forward or flirtatious.

When a gender has to make 'passes' at others, sexual harassment is bound to happen because you have to take that risk of hitting on someone who is not interested in you.

The human race was wiser 1000 years ago, and is now needing to grow up all over again.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I love walking around with a raging man toxic boner bumping it into every girl I see

[–]dukunt 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Obviously. Men are mindless and governed by the biological desire to rape every woman on the planet. But if this were the case then isnt it a problem of biology rather than gender? If you are out in the woods and attacked by a pack of wolves do we blame the wolves? Feminist logic is so off the mark how does it ever hold up in the court system? For expample woman rapes boy. Woman becomes pregnant. Boy is forced to pay child support. In what universe is this a legal outcome? Obviously ours, but can anyone see how a judge could ever rule in a million years in favour of the rapist? But it happens! But how?! Its so fundamentally wrong it blows my mind!

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah, but blaming the woman for sex with the boy would be blaming the wolf!

[–]NerdyWeightLifter 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The judges rule that way because they are American judges and therefore don't really have discretion, just interpretation, unlike countries with common law courts where discretion leads to new common law as precedent.

If you want those decisions to change in USA, then you have to get the laws changed.

IANAL

[–]tallwheel 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Even when offending men are found to have been abused in their past no one gives a shit.

[–]p3ngwin 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When women offend, people ask what happened to her to make her do it, especially "what did he do to make her do that?".

When men offend, people ask why he must be such a monster oppressing women.

The SJW/PC/Feminist idiots have a lovely habit of hypocritically demanding equality, and "safety" for the snowflakes, and choosing when a woman has agency, and when she does not.

E.G.

  • Too many white men in CEO roles and tech jobs ? = women are just as capable if only the sexist "boys" club would let them in.

  • "Gender pay gap" ? = sexist men won't let women earn as much

  • Gender gap with the dirty/dangerous/boring jobs ? = that's acceptable, it's fine to let men have those "traditional roles".

  • Women can't cause domestic violence because women are weaker = men are the stronger sex therefore oppressing women

  • Women aren't applying and qualifying for military/police/firefighter/etc roles ? = women are just as capable as men, but the physical test is sexist so we demand physical standards be lowered.

  • Male and female got drunk and had sex ? = Woman couldn't consent therefore it was rape.

Curious how they demand men stop damseling women, and seek an end to "gender inequality", etc ...

but these women are just fine with those same "problems"... when it suits them....

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it's not as if men never had bad mothers/fathers. All men come from healthy happy families, so the only explanation for any sexual act that is deemed wrong by society must be because they are born monsters. /s

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well let's see the feminist approach to men who are victims of domestic violence committed by women is to arrest the men so...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i think we should look into why ANY criminal commits a crime, but i think its bullshit that its only being put into practice when you can sympathize with the woman (often white, no offense). but if a man even thinks about a crime its because "men are full of testosterone and testosterone is evil and makes you rape and kill". so its not bad that theyre discussing the past of criminals, because that is a very relevant and important aspect of it, only when its EXCLUSIVELY for women.

[–]SOwED 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I feel that this approach should be considered for all such crimes, regardless of the offender's sex. Sometimes, blind compassion is not the right move, but blindly treating people as evil is not always the right move either.

This isn't exactly a step in the right direction, but I suppose it's good that people can consider a convict in such a way at all.

[–]p3ngwin 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

...but blindly treating people as evil is not always the right move either.

It's troubling you think it's ever the right move.

[–]SOwED 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah yeah shouldn't have said "blindly" there.

[–]Mencite 62 points63 points64 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The real issue that society can't face up to is that women sexually assault young boys. Female babysitters regularly grope or inspect boys genitals for sexual gratification/curiosity, however society can't face that this goes on we'd so indoctrinated with the idea that women can't perpetrate sexual assaults on young boys.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can confirm re: the babbysitting thing. An 10 year old boy should not have to explain why he "peed his pants" while the babysitter put on Porky's and reached in his pants.

[–]Shippoyasha 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

When I attended highschool, it wasn't even uncommon for girls to just cope a feel on guy's butts too. And nobody in the faculty would chalk that up as sexual assault. This kind of double standard existed even since the late 90s

[–]qemist 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This kind of double standard existed even since the late 90s

Men being held to a tougher standard has existed since forever.

[–]LedZeppelin1602 32 points33 points34 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Moreover, it is only by recognising the reality of female sexual offending that the needs of those who offend can be properly addressed. “Female perpetration [of sexual aggression] is frequently intertwined with women’s past experience of their own victimisation”, the researchers said

Needs? Their rapists, their needs are food, toilet and cage.

Many men who offend were abused as kids but they get no sympathy or absolvement of their criminal actions because of this, neither should women

[–]Mythandros 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wholeheartedly agree.

[–]Nougat 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They're not wrong. What's wrong is that it takes being forced to realize that women can be sex offenders to realize that many such people are in need of treatment, along with punishment.

Oh but just for women.

[–]FinitumX 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

r/noshitsherlock

[–]Source_or_gtfo 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

“We call for feminist approaches – expansively interpreted – to challenge these stereotypes, making room to consider women who are abusive, power seeking, and sexually aggressive,

You don't just get to backpedal on what feminism has been the main promoter (and to no minor degree), how this ties in and has tied in with the fact that feminism happened instead of something gender neutral and gender impartial, and whitewash away the inter-related victimisation, the aloneness, the self-doubt and the justified frustration of millions over decades, and the hard work of MRAs and feminism-critical egalitarians (and in the past, it was very hard) in fighting these bigoted misandric stereotypes to first of all find out the actual truth and then finally get it accepted by "moderate" feminists, to the point that it is now being promoted as "feminism" and apparently a "feminism-brought" advancement.

It's frustrating that they don't realise how rightfully offensive and unjust that is. Especially when the next line is this :

“Those victimised by women are doubly harmed when we fail to treat their abuse as worthy of concern.”

So are they tripley or quadrupley harmed when the are faced with the promotion, and the hard promotion of a cultural typification the exact opposite of what they've experienced, and a bias towards seeing everything through a lens of male perpetration and female victimisation is explicitly encouraged, knowing full well that abusive people very commonly claim themselves to be victims.

[–]blackxxwolf3 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

am i the only one that doesnt care that they are treating the women as victims in this and im just glad they are finally admitting it. 1 step at a time.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

One step at a time? They been stepping for a while now, and it keeps leading nowhere.

[–]ThirdTurnip 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In Australia we recently saw our first advertisement which acknowledges that men can be victims of it. That's somewhere.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-25/soldiers-recall-domestic-violence-experiences-in-army-campaign/8649344

There's also been some movement in a positive direction in the UK.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/finally-policy-makers-waking-plight-male-domestic-abuse-victims/

[–]Not_Just_You 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

am i the only one

Probably not

[–]thrway_1000 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/UyHs2

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/duplicates/6mmhte/sexual_offending_by_women_is_surprisingly_common/

This was posted to TwoX and the mods removed it. Jesus fucking christ

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

naturally

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Still blows my mind.

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

On the other hand, there's another post in 2X about how even steeper laws regarding FGM have been signed in, meanwhile we see nothing for males.

[–]chadwickofwv 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

National surveys by the U.S. Census Bureau are also revealing. A 2012 study asked respondents whether they had ever forced someone to have sex against their will: of those who said they had, 43.6 per cent were female (compared with 56.4 per cent of men).

Considering that a very large portion of women believe that men always want sex with them I guarantee that the number of women is actually much higher.

[–]OldShoe 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This was also posted in Psychology and a lot of comments from men describing what happened to then are now deleted. What rule did they break?

Here's how it looked when I left my computer this morning: https://imgur.com/a/i6c9Z

[–]imguralbumbot 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]bufedad 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just made that comment. I pulled it up on Ceddit and it looks like the walking dead with all that red.

[–]SwordOfShannara 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

“I started screaming ‘your dad’s dead’ to my 14-year-old and ran into the street screaming ‘Mikey’s dead’." - This is a parent, but of course she is clearly only a child and can't even control herself for the sake of her children. It's every child's dream to have their mother scream to them hysterically that their father is dead. Such a considerate way to let them know. But hey, when you think of yourself first and when you have the emotional maturity of a pampered little girl...

[–]theothermod[M] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You have been shadowbanned by reddit admins (not by mensrights moderators). See /r/ShadowBan for information about shadowbans.

I have approved this comment so I can reply to you.

It seems Reddit has a bot that looks for certain types of user behaviour that indicate spamming or brigading. Sometimes innocent users get shadowbanned along with the bad guys. Usually they can fix this if they contact the admins.

[–]PillTheRed 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Am I shadow banned as well?

[–]theothermod 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No.

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

who said that?

[–]McFeely_Smackup 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You responded to the wrong article, I think you meant the one about the guy who woke up dead on the couch.

[–]TheBookOfSeil 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Aha! Men and women are equally shitty creatures!

Checkmate, feminists!

[–]Gambizzle 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah well exactly... the war should be focussed on shutting down rapists and supporting victims.

Not... shaming all males by assuming they are rapists and then telling them they're not statistically significant, so should just suck it up when they are raped (or... that they probably wanted/enjoyed it, even if they were a minor).

I'm all for progressing female rights in areas where they are disadvantaged. However, I think feminists need to start toning down their anti-male sentiment and refining their boundaries. All victims deserve equal support and all crims deserve a fair punishment. Think as mothers, feminists. If your 10 y/o son gets raped by a woman, will you just be like 'oh he woulda loved that... she's a woman so let her walk free, this is a non-issue'. IMO by waging a war on men, feminists are also ostensibly trying to take away children's rights. It worries me to think that many of these women will be raising boys in a warped style that's like 'well you are advantaged/priveliged in every aspect of life compared with me, so don't come to me with any of your problems... anything bad that happens to you is your own fault'.

[–]TheProstateAmbusher 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nearly 4.5 million men in the US had at some time in their lives been forced to penetrate

The word you're looking for is rape.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, women are people and people can be absolutely shitty.

[–]WolfeBane84 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean it would make sense that women may be higher % offenders than men but under reported because "women would never do that" way our society perceives women.

It makes sense because women tend to be more open about their sexuality than men tend to be.

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

in current era where overt male sexuality is seen as gross harassment

[–]Mythandros 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course, feminists are going to be all like "No! This isn't true... because reasons!"

Of course, these stats don't surprise me one bit. I have always seen women as the more agressive and sexual gender.

[–]vonthe 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Can anyone get the original study? I don't want to pay $35 or whatever for it.

[–]ThirdTurnip 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This article refers to several studies. I can give you the CDC one (have it bookmarked).

http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020

[–]Sproxxx 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ilan_Meyer/publication/308844135_Sexual_Victimization_Perpetrated_by_Women_Federal_Data_Reveal_Surprising_Prevalence/links/5840496508ae2d21755f2f8e.pdf

[–]vonthe 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Excellent - thank you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Guys, I was working on a science fiction/dystopian story where women treat men like how these feminists are abusing men today, but it's more extreme and widespread. Do you think I would even get it published if I tried? Any ideas where I would even try and get published?

[–]wwwhistler 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

check this article (from 2016) that covers 8 subs for writers https://letterpile.com/writing/8-Useful-Subreddits-for-Writers

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't know enough about publishing to help you there, but I would read it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

THank you. I just want to flip people's hardened ideas of life and perceive different realities that matter to our real lives. I've already written the novel, but I'm going to rewrite it because I want the writing to be much stronger.

[–]Yuo_cna_Raed_Tihs 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can someone link to the actual study?

[–]Saerain 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't fucking say.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Archived

http://archive.is/Ewq0X

[–]autotldr 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)


A team of US researchers led by Lara Stemple at the UCLA School of Law has analysed data from several large federal crime victimisation surveys and they say their findings show that sexual offences by women against male and female victims are surprisingly common.

Most recently, a 2014 study of 284 men and boys in college found that 43 reported having been sexually coerced, mostly unwanted sexual intercourse, with 95 per cent of the perpetrators reported as being female.

Finally, the "Culture of denial" about female sexual offending means that most female offenders are not convicted, and when they are, they receive lighter sentences, Stemple and her colleagues said.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: female#1 sexual#2 Survey#3 women#4 offend#5

[–]bufedad 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This was posted in r/psychology.

Holy shit the deletes. I can't even tell what most of them were deleted for (even on ceddit).

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