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Terry O'Neill, president of the National Organization for Women, on female draft - "We don’t think women should be exempt from the draft any more than they should be exempt from combat roles"

xynomaster

January 30, 2016
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Title Terry O'Neill, president of the National Organization for Women, on female draft - "We don’t think women should be exempt from the draft any more than they should be exempt from combat roles"
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xynomaster

Upvotes 122
Comments 25
Date January 30, 2016 4:51 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/43etb6/terry_oneill_president_of_the_national/
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[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Good for him. A quick google search shows that many women's organizations and committees come out against conscription, both in the US and elsewhere, but NOW has had on their books opposition to any single sex draft since 1980.

Now, if we can only get NOW on board for stuff that's day to day, rather than somewhat theoretical like a draft, stuff like lifetime alimony and shared parenting, we might get somewhere.

[–]Tedesche 21 points22 points23 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Now, if we can only get NOW on board for stuff that's day to day, rather than somewhat theoretical like a draft, stuff like lifetime alimony and shared parenting, we might get somewhere.

NOW is a patently biased organization that is about as devoted to treating men and women equally as your average sports fan is dedicated to equal enforcement of a sport's rules whilst their team is on the field. They're a women's advocacy organization, that's it. Gender equality has nothing to do with it.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree. I was being sarcastic, because NOW has opposed the latter two options for years. My point was that when it's theoretical, they are about equality on paper, but when it's real world equality and that equality would ramp down female privilege in the areas where they have it ... nope.

[–]Tedesche 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I figured, I just don't think it's likely at all that they ever will take men's discrimination seriously in a concrete (as opposed to just abstract) way. They have zero incentive to do so.

[–]HotSauciness 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

good for him

She's a woman

[–]unklestinky 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

TBF the picture in the article is of Lawrence G. Romo Director of the Selective Service. If you didn't read the caption you might assume he was Terry O'neill.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also Terry is typically the male spelling, in contrast to Terri for women.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah, the inevitable gender neutral name traps me again! I should have known, though.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Him? In what world would something as female supremacist as NOW have a man as its president?!?!?!

[–]Spoonwood 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

So why hasn't N. O. W. joined the National Coalition for Men in their lawsuit?

[–]HotSauciness 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

IIRC some feminists, possibly NOW, did join men's activists in the 80s when this went to the Supreme Court. The draft has been one of the only men's issues that feminists have actually supported MRAs on. Well at least since the 80s

[–]Eryemil 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Of course, it's unlikely to pass and doesn't take away from their oppression points.

[–]xynomaster[S] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The director of selective service says he thinks it's 50-50 that Congress will pass it. Add that to the chances of the Supreme Court ruling it violates equal protection as is and I think we've got a real shot at changing this in the next few years.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm optimistic. One of the judges in appeals court compared it to a black-only draft in response to opposing counsel arguments.

[–]xynomaster[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm optimistic too, but I'm not sure how much that really matters. They're only ruling right now on whether the case is "ripe" and whether the NCFM has standing...even if they rule in favor of the NCFM (and it sort of looked like they would), all that would happen is that they would send it back to district court for consideration.

I guess maybe after the district court it would be appealed back to them and then their opinions might matter? Still though, when this case was last brought up in the 1980s the appeals courts actually overturned the draft based on sex discrimination but then SCOTUS overruled them. Unless Congress acts I don't see this stopping short of the Supreme Court so that's where it's really going to matter.

[–]DaneWhitman 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Verna Jones, executive director of the American Legion, said the Legion’s official position is that women should be treated the same as men.

Jones said the American Legion is actively working to change issues it believes in for the military and veterans, including registering women with the SSS. With 2.2 million Legion members, she said, anything is possible.

This is even more surprising. The American Legion used to be damn near reactionary (on a whole lot of issues). Whenever this issue would come up in the 70s/80s, during debates about the ERA or when registration was reinstated in 1980, they would be on the other side. Times really are changing.

Also, good for NOW.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Claptrap from a woman way too old to be drafted. It's probably just meant to make NOW look like it thinks men and women should be treated the same way.

"O’Neill said women have been in harm’s way in combat for years, but they were not considered to be in combat roles because it would require an increase in pay."

Now, that's the O'Neill we have all come to know and loathe.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahhh there it is. Also notice there isn't any mention of the full benefits of citizenship women enjoy without the requirement to register. It's all about women and opportunities for combat pay and promotions. NOW wants to sacrifice female soldiers on the altar of feminine prestige.

[–]ee4m 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The states is going to be moving to a system like israel IMO, NOW and Rahm Emanuel have both announced it.

[–]Senray 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mandatory conscription would never work here. People wouldn't comply

[–]montereybay 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

BTW, while women are now allowed for combat roles, I'm fairly certain they aren't required to do combat roles like men are. They can opt out, choose less hazardous roles. This makes the quote kind of non-responsive.

[–]RedBigMan 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While women are now allowed for combat roles... Like the average american male they won't be capable of passing basic training to qualify for combat roles.

[–]TheDude41 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure women are exempt from being placed in combat roles once they join the military, unless they elect to take on a combat role.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The closer and quicker we get to females being 50% of military debilitation, injury, and death the better.

This is equality.

[–]fullhalf 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

hes just calling the army's bluff. they know women wont be in combat roles because they'll just be canon fodder. they're much more useful in support roles. putting women into combat roles is like strapping a plow to a blood hound.

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