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Teacher accused of sex with student ... after already being arrested for alleged sex with student

fick_Dich

March 31, 2015
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Title Teacher accused of sex with student ... after already being arrested for alleged sex with student
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fick_Dich

Upvotes 326
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Date March 31, 2015 1:31 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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Girl, 13, Arrested For Vicious Videotaped Attack On Classmate, Young Boy

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June 30, 2015
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[–]ThePedanticCynic 90 points91 points92 points 11 years ago (39 children) | Copy Link

She's a gorgeous, tall, hot blonde. That look on her face is surprise at having to face consequences for her actions for the first time in her life.

[–]kankouillotte 24 points25 points26 points 11 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link

Although that is fair, considering equivalent treatment, I still have difficulties to understand what kind of guy can go and tell stuff like that knowing the consequences for his (former?) lover.

[–]TwistmetalI fuck white knights 26 points27 points28 points 11 years ago* (14 children) | Copy Link

Hmm I wonder what kind of woman could divorce their husband who they had kids with and sue them until they are homeless, ruining the life of her (former?) lover. You seem like the type of guy to give out pussy passes left and right.

EDIT: Left out context of former lover.

[–]kankouillotte 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You seem like the type of guy to give out pussy passes left and right.

Well not really a pussy pass, because I would also say to leave them alone if it was a young male teacher and a 16y-old student.

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I like your style /u/Twistmetal. Enjoy your flair cunt face.

[–]TwistmetalI fuck white knights 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck yeah bitches!

[+]fuckgangstarap -7 points-6 points-5 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

She was probably single and ready to mingle. Or thought she could have a little secret fun.. if the kid didn't rat it would of been like it never happened... I mean.. I'd probably do it

its not black white and grey only

And you can think that this is really bad mentality and get all upset and try to type some painful response to me.. but there are people of all sorts of different natures on this planet.. if you think shes the worst of the worst you will be unpleasantly surpirsed when youre crossed by someone... worse

[–]hooah212002 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Switch genders and see if you think the same way.

[–]fuckgangstarap -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The funny thing is I'll never switch genders and I'll never think differently.. what a stupid thing to say..

Its strictly my personal male opinion which will not be changed, altered or differed in any way.. ever.

[–]BunnySideUp 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So she shouldn't be punished? Let's just not punish thieves because there are murderers. Let's just not punish people for assault because human trafficking exists. Just because there are worse people doesn't mean what she did was any less wrong, and it is WRONG to sleep with a 16 year old boy who is your STUDENT. Many people think child molesters ARE the worst kind of people, if the offender is male. This is no different, it's someone in a position of power taking advantage of someone in a lower position. The 16 yr old boy "wanting" it makes no difference, it is not possible for them to have sex on any level of equality, just the same way that a 16 yr old girl "wanting" it would make no difference if the genders were reversed.

[–]fuckgangstarap -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i never said she shouldn't be punished.. read the very first thing I said...

"I don't think what she did was right"

Try to actually understand what someone is saying before you PMS all over your keyboard

[–]BunnySideUp 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

"She was probably single and ready to mingle."

Rationalizing her behavior.

"Or thought she could have a little secret fun.."

A little secret fun? What the fuck?

"if the kid didn't rat it would of been like it never happened..."

-would have She would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling kids who she sexually assaulted.

"I mean.. I'd probably do it"

Okay?

Solid sexist PMS comment btw, because someone who calls you out on bullshit ass backwards ways of thinking must be a woman on her period.

Edit - I'm going to sleep, let's just agree to disagree

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You're retarded

[–]fuckgangstarap -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

youre a faggot

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

*you're

[–]fuckgangstarap -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

u sum fag

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*you some fag?

[–]TA_2985_A6E1_9FC314 points 11 years ago [recovered] (13 children) | Copy Link

So a HS student (M16) has an affair with his (F) teacher. He thinks he's the luckiest guy in the world. The affair ends when she says enough (you're too old for me now). He's OK with it because he's now less awkward and is banging girls his own age.

He sees her name in the paper regarding an affair with a different student. He gives it some thought and says, "this was really child abuse. My world view has been damaged by the whole process." -- He decides to rat her out.

He did the right thing.

[–]BroadStreet_Bully3 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

That's such bullshut. How could it just dawn on you that it was abuse and now you're damaged? Oh, I was fine that whole time, but now I'm not.

Where are you even getting that, though? I keep reading it and the kid that testified said he's being forced to testify and doesn't think she should be in jail.

[–]1234yawaworht10 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

You can think something's normal as a kid and realize in hindsight it wasn't.

[–]Dert_ 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

16 isn't really a kid, they can drive and do their own shit at that point.

[+]Aarondhp24 -9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Thats too bad for him. Hes a child. He was a child when they started fucking. How he feels isnt the issue here.

She slept with a teenager that she held a position of authority over. That is not just bad, thats heinous. I hope she gets life.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Hope she gets life?! What the fuck!

[–]mrskeetskeeter 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

A man would get life. Fair is fair.

[–]bk15dcx 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Equality

[–]Dert_ 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Except it's not fair, because the situations are different.

[–]BunnySideUp 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's what she's facing according to the article.

[–]Aarondhp24 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd feel differently if it was one kid, but it wasnt. It was many. Even after being caught. So yeah, life for a predator who refuses to reform sounds about right.

[–]Dert_ -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She definitely didn't have a position of authority outside of school, male teenagers don't view female teachers as being above them.

[–]Aarondhp24 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah ok, so it's how the children perceive them that's important? That makes sense.

[–]ThePedanticCynic 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that's really weird. The article makes it seem like he's trying to stand up for her, but still told them she statutory raped him.

I'm guessing the guys she went after weren't the geeks, if you know what i mean. This guy sounds like he works out.

[–]Aarondhp24 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Thats pretty disgusting for you to even say. Like that makes a difference? Suddenly, anyone who doesnt wear a letterman jacket and lift weights is more easily emotionally damaged by sexual abuse? A 16 year old jock can handle it just fine?

Lol, get real.

[–]ThePedanticCynic -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I bet you work out, too.

[–]Aarondhp24 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Im former Army, and I was a JROTC Raider in high school. Ive been about fitness from a very young age.

[–]ThePedanticCynic 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see.

[–]colombianguy-2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Agreed. Why spoil the good thing you had going? All you had to do was keep it on the down low. People are normally terrible at keeping a secret.

[–]BunnySideUp 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is such an ass backwards way of thinking, what the fuck?

[–]fuckgangstarap -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm with you on that... I fucked a 17 year old girl that was just turning 18 in a couple weeks when I was 23.

I knew consequences. And even though we never spoke of them I knew she would never do that to me.

[–]filippo_b 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't call her gorgeous, her face has the same shape of a cantaloupe.

[–]SerHodorOfHouseHodor 37 points38 points39 points 11 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

on one hand I have this "if she was a man double standard" ringing in my head.

on the other hand.....shes fine as fuck.

[–]filippo_b 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

no one notices her mongoloid head? seriously her face is shaped like a costco cheesecake

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Proper moonface.

[–]stanhhh 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right..she's leaning towards the Orangutan face...but she sends so many other signals of hotness, that we can oversee this little detail..for a while.

[–]Aarondhp24 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why cant she fuck 18 year old seniors then? Cuz she's fucked in the head.

[–]sockmess 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How about 18 year old graduates or at the very least outside her school district so there is no power play that can be used against her.

[–]Dert_ -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you're the only one that is fucked in the head.

You think there would be any difference? that suddenly when they turn 18 they suddenly know better?

Fucking fool.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

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[–]stanhhh 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Huh, brah, 35 isn't that old. You must be 15.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–]stanhhh 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wat. Next you're going to explain cooties to me, right?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Dude stop you are getting younger with each comment. Soon you will turn into an embryo.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Honey he's supplied a link, go get that coat hanger "

[–]Sentazar 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She looks pristine, this is some bullshit imo /shrug. If you're old enough to decide you don't wanna be pissed on...

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She's 35. If you scrape the pound of makeup off her face she ain't so attractive. The wrinkly saggy boobs probably aren't helping either

post a pic of yourself

[–]CheyBabee 23 points24 points25 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I went to school with this teacher and those students and trust me, none of them were the geeky type. The thing that really disgusts me about this whole issue is she had a husband and two kids. The reason she might spend life in prison is because she committed 14 felonies. Yes the students she had sex with shouldn't exactly be called boys, but they were students and they were minors, which is why this is appalling and disgusting to a lot of people. Besides, come on guys it's Utah, things almost always get blown out of proportion here.

[–]fick_Dich 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

did you ever lay eyes on the nudies? what did them titties look like?

[–]_PM_ME_UR_KNEES_ 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I demand an answer.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you motorboat them? You motorboat'n son of a bitch u

[–]Hazzman 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://youtu.be/VL4xRwl1f3A

[–]R6RiderSB 71 points72 points73 points 11 years ago (64 children) | Copy Link

I love when people act like this will traumatize a 16 year old teenage male. We can slap the term "BOY" all over it, but when I was 16, I would have killed for that opportunity.

The stupid factor comes in when these teachers trust a 16-17 y/o with keeping a secret that they boned a hot tall blonde teacher... I mean really..

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 11 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link

I know this argument has been done to death, but switch the genders. If you could say the same if it were a 16 year old girl and attractive male teacher, then you make a valid point

[–]YourBabyDaddy 37 points38 points39 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well, it is the same...no one is going to be traumatized by consensual sex at 16.

[–]BunnySideUp 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not sex at 16 that is the issue, it's the fact that a teacher is in a position of power and it is therefore impossible for a teacher and a student to have sex on any level of equality.

[–]arghjshfdjkskj 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

God I want to fuck up this misconception so hard. Here, let me spell it out clearly:

EXISTENCE OF A POWER DIFFERENCE DOES NOT IMPLY ABUSE OF A POWER DIFFERENCE.

OK, so it's true that there can be a power differential in a teacher/student relationship and a teacher could use that to coerce a student into sex. But only in the same way that, say, a parent could force their kid to choose the item they hated the most from a restaurant menu. Alternatively, the parents could give their kid a real, free choice to pick what they wanted. I repeat: existence of a power difference does not imply abuse of a power difference.

What's wrong with a teacher having sex with their students then? Well, assuming that it's all consensual, frankly, not much. But something to think about is impartiality. How much can grades or reference given by a teacher to a student she is boning really be trusted? Are fuck buddies more likely to get to university or get jobs than other, perhaps more deserving students?

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You could say the same. In most states and almost every country the age of consent is 16.

[–]PFKMan23 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

There would be an outcry as the male teacher would most likely be seen as a monster and the girl seen a a victim.

[–]ForceBlade 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And everyone gets t-t-triggered and vomits $100%

[–]zer0t3ch 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And most states have laws that say you must be 18 to have sex with someone in a position of power over you. (a teacher)

[–]Aarondhp24 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Define "most states".

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

36 of them.

[–]Aarondhp24 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So a 35 year old teacher can legally sleep with her 16 year old students in 36 states?

[–]fick_Dich 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. Some of the states that have <18years old as there age of consent also have laws preventing student/teacher sexual relationships.

[–]fick_Dich 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Math checks out.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I pride myself on my killer arithmetic.

[–]crackyJsquirrel 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Switching genders does nothing for this situation unless you subscribe to double standards.

[–]EZOOC 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And whether they mean to or not, most people do at least to some extent.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thats the point I'm trying to make. People should look at this situation the same way regardless of the gender of the student and teacher

[–]crackyJsquirrel 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was saying it because it doesn't change my outlook on the willingness and consent of the 16 year old being taken into consideration. The whole student teacher thing is bad either way.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

agreed. I was just makin sure that's what you mean

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

You're just stereotyping genders there. It doesn't matter if he wanted it or not, she is still the adult and is more responsible. That's how it works regardless of gender. If you are honestly so naive as to believe that all 16 year old boys are horny sexbombs and all 16 year old girls are innocent modest virgins; you need to go back to high school.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]iiRageProdigy -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

http://imgur.com/AKpS9jN

[–]ownage99988 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

funny aren't you

[–]Aarondhp24 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Are we equal or not? Each persons mentality is different from the next one. Men want sex as much as women do my friend, but as teenagers, boys want it more than any other time in their lives. That doesn't mean its worse for a teenage girl to be sexually abused than a boy.

Society lambasts promiscuous women as negative, and a girls first time can be painful, not including the risk of pregnancy.

Women have more hangups about sex early on, but that doesnt equate to a different mentality about sex. Men are simply bigger risk takers.

[–]stanhhh -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Men want sex as much as women

No matter how many times this is going to be repeated: it is entirely, hugely wrong.

Men want sex much, much more than women. Period.

[–]Aarondhp24 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Lol argue with science, Im sure youre right.

[–]stanhhh 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

What science? How can science measure anything like that?

[–]Aarondhp24 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If you even have to ask, there isnt much point in explaining that behavioral sciences exist.

Your opinions are just opinions. Until youve conducted your own research, your own beliefs about the world are not considered fact.

[–]dz_pdx -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

(Hugely condescending generalization.)

[–]Aarondhp24 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're making bold claims and then asking how anything like science could prove or disprove your claim, you deserve a little condescension.

[–]stanhhh -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, you're talking pseudo sciences, pop sciences, that's what I meant.

And my beliefs come from experiences, they are considered facts by me and by everyone who shares the experience.

[–]Aarondhp24 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those are called anecdotes, and only an idiot would go around telling people they're true.

I guarantee you are either a boy OR a girl, not both. What experiences have you had that allows you to speak for both sexes? Or just anyone besides yourself?

Not one. We're done here.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Women like cooking far, far more than men.

See how wrong that suddenly sounds?

[–]stanhhh 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ah! What a weak sophism.

Sex drive is something related to our nature as higher primates. Nothing to do with the distribution of domestic choirs.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you sure? How do you know the sex drive of every male and every female?

[–]stanhhh 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

100% sure.

And do your own research, lazy ass.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

no need for name-calling

[–]deltrino 25 points26 points27 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If he is a victim, he becomes a traumatized boy at the tender young age of 16 in the eyes of the public. Committed a crime at the age of 16... The same public will scream that he is an adult and should go directly to jail.

[–]Joklahoma 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What happens if a 16 year old gets one of these women pregnant? I mean, the 16 LEGALLY got raped.. and guess what, when he turns 18 he gets to pay child support for 18 years! Yay.. because there is NO negative for the boys in this, right?

[–]ThePedanticCynic 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This actually happened.

[–]voteforlee 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Jesus christ every time this is posted there is someone defending that this is not rape

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stat. rape in the eyes of the law but there's plenty of teenagers that would endure terrible things to bone their hot teacher.

[–]R6RiderSB 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

It's statutory rape, which, if they were both consenting it is not rape in the way you're thinking.

Statutory rape just means one of the persons involved was below the age of consent, it does not mean it was forced on either party. Age of consent is a state law saying at what point you're allowed to decide if you want to have sex. Many states say 18 y/o. Some 16 y/o.

[–]Not_An_Ambulance -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

It means that there was no consent. NO consent. Do you get that? I feel like you're going "Oh, but the child liked it!"... Who gives a fuck if the child liked it. My dog will lick me if I step on it, does that mean I should purposefully be stepping on it?

No. Stop acting like rape is okay sometimes. It's not okay. It's NEVER okay.

You know why there is the double standard? When people think of the girl, they go "oh... but, she could get pregnant and it will ruin her life!"... You realize that adult women have decided to keep their rape babies after raping teenage boys, and then demanded child support? You think THAT shit is okay?

[–]Jake0024 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So I appreciate what you're trying to say, but the actual reason there is a double standard is that the age of consent varies between 16 and 18 depending on what state you're in (to say nothing of other countries where the age of consent can be much lower).

The actual federal minimum age of consent in the United States is 12, but whether a particular case is considered rape changes depending on which side of an imaginary line the sex occurs on.

That's why people say it's sometimes okay--because on one side of a state border the person is considered a child, and on the other side they're not.

You're arguing this like there's some objectively true moment at which people become adults. There isn't.

[–]1234yawaworht 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No matter what state they're in I don't think it's legal for a teacher to have sex with a student even if they're 18. Something about being in a position of power over the student.

[–]Jake0024 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I believe it's something the teacher would be fired for, but not legally actionable. I could be wrong on that.

[–]Not_An_Ambulance 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're wrong.

[–]BroadStreet_Bully3 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I think it's ok. He wasn't forced, even meeting up with her after she was already arrested. Seems like he couldn't keep himself from her, eh? I don't get your no consent argument. The kid even said she doesn't belong in jail.

[–]headbus 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're insinuating that because he liked it, likes her, feels emotionally drawn to her etc etc that it's less wrong?

What if the girl was saying the same thing, you would say that he has emotionally manipulated her into needing him. How is this any different?

A 16 year old is still a 16 year old, and they are not emotionally mature enough to notice when someone is simply using them.

[–]Not_An_Ambulance -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Children cannot consent... They do not fully understand the consequences so they have no right to decide for themselves.

[–]BroadStreet_Bully3 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The age of consent is 16 in the majority of the US.

[–]Not_An_Ambulance -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is not in Texas, so that's irrelevant.

[–]OrpheusTheWolf 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know a guy who had that experience when he just barely turned 16. He was the opposite of traumatized. He became more confident and overall more pleasant to be around than before although he was already pretty chill. I noticed a change in him and suspected some things, but he kept it a secret til college and even then told only a few close friends. But seriously he's one of the most well-adjusted, emotionally healthy people I've ever met. Of all my circle of friends he's had the least problems with relationships. I can only imagine this sort of thing being a confidence boost for a guy that age.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you make an AmA with people who HAVE had relationships like this? It's pretty fascinating hearing it from their own pov. By that, I mean students who looked at it as just a relationship. Even though it's illegal and kinda fucked up by some people's standards

[–]ThePedanticCynic 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

but when I was 16, I would have killed for that opportunity.

That's why it's considered statutory rape. Would you kill for that opportunity now?

At 16 your hormones are basically in control of you, and it would take quite the willpower to turn her down; regardless of the consequences.

[–]Wargame4life 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Its a good point, I remember being in the same boat thinking it would be the best thing ever, but only back in hindsight from a mature brain can you see the real potential for damage, however it also has to be said its only potential and not definite, one could have a sexual relationship with a teacher and never regret it and then who is the victim?

its a bit of a tricky areas since its right we punish and criminalise the behaviour because there is potential for a victim, but that doesn't mean in all circumstances and all contexts its a "bad thing" if two people do it and in a mature hindsight still hold their sex in fond memories, there is no victim.

[–]ThePedanticCynic 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair point, but i think it's more about preventing future victims than soliciting the feelings of past ones. Not only that, but she was also showing a flagrant disregard for some pretty hard laws. Statutory rape isn't something the system just shrugs off, and everyone knows it. She did all this from a position of power over these kids, too, so even if they didn't want to it's not like they had a real choice; which is my biggest problem with this.

But lets take it a bit more extreme. What if he was 10, and 20 years later he still has fond memories? What if she took photos, and 20 years later he still didn't care? Some laws exist beyond the feelings of the victim.

Either way, just because there were no consequences doesn't there mean there couldn't have been. We have charges for attempted murder, for instance.

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[–]R6RiderSB 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not according to several state laws, you moron. Not according to A LOT of countries around the world, you moron. Laws are not always right. They are laws.

Know some stuff about the world before you call people a moron because of your opinion.

[–]bobjoeman 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's still illegal.

I don't think downloading music is bad, but it's still illegal.

[–]j4390jamie 41 points42 points43 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Nice.....

[–]nomorerope 31 points32 points33 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

THAT POOR 16 YEAR OLD HE'S PROBABLY TRAUMATIZED FOR LIFE!!!!!!!1111

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points34 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Can't have double standards in law. Defeats the point of justice being blind.

[–]nomorerope 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Obviously she should be punished. Just sayin the social repercussions are not gonna be the same. Boy is hero girl is either a victim or a slut.

[–]the_big_cheef -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

NNNiiice........

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

... Niceee

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i remember the first time i was raped at 16... i was in such denial i had to go back again and again and again.

and that was just the first day

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I remember the first time I was raped as well. Ran through a box of 6 condoms. Had to go to the store to buy more. Was a great 2 hours though.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Richie Rich's Dad in the 30 sec video

[–]holycrapolaness 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

A 16yo boy? Society may need to reexamine its definition of boy... or girl, for that matter.

And whatever counsel allowed her to wear those form-fitting outfits and look hot in court has got to be kidding. Maybe she accidentally hired tax attorneys.

[–]Jake0024 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I think her lawyers probably did that on purpose to play up the idea that the teenage boys probably didn't mind so much, maybe even pursued her rather than the other way around.

[–]holycrapolaness 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Interesting. But if true, I don't think the "adult temptress" angle would work very well. You and I and everyone who's ever known teenage males know the boys didn't mind at all, but that's not the point of these proceedings...

[–]Jake0024 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's probably the best angle they've got. How would it help to make her look like an unattractive old crone? It wouldn't. She'd just be that much more creepy, more likely to have been the one pursuing, the aggressor, etc.

[–]holycrapolaness 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I figure she's already lost this case going in. Her only strategy now is to try and minimize her sentence, and my take is that looking like a hot temptress is not going to be helpful in that area.

[–]Jake0024 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's going to be better than the alternative, but I agree she's fucked either way. I think her best defense is to convince people it was likely the boys came after her, not the other way around (because then she would be seen as predatory).

[–]Neo_Viking7 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link

All I saw when i read the article is she did anal. Niiiiiiiiceeeeeee.

[–]1234yawaworht 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

two counts of first-degree felony forcible sodomy

Has some weird implications. Like she forced him to put it in her butt.

[–]KudagFirefist 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE76/htm/76_05_040300.htm

(2) A person commits forcible sodomy when the actor commits sodomy upon another without the other's consent.

Minors can't consent.

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[–]KudagFirefist 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's much weirder that blowies are against the law in Utah...

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So she put things in their buts?

Nice!!!!

[–]fick_Dich 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also, some states define sodomy as anything other than penis-vagina intercourse

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe she butt raped him? Like pegged him. Ever think of that?

[–]1234yawaworht 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had not considered that....

[–]KudagFirefist 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE76/htm/76_05_040300.htm

(1) A person commits sodomy when the actor engages in any sexual act with a person who is 14 years of age or older involving the genitals of one person and mouth or anus of another person, regardless of the sex of either participant.

BJ, more likely.

[–]Miles_Prower1 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm sure virtually every 16 year old boy going thru puberty is jerking off to fucking an adult porn star. So according to the law, they have a rape fantasy.

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–]J_Cant_Box 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There have to be nude pics of here available somewhere......

[–]fick_Dich 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like the cut of your jib. Maybe your google skills are better than mine. There is someone in this comment thread that supposedly went to school there. Maybe we should ask them.

[–]Psandysdad 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can read German, OP.

[–]fick_Dich 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

gut für sie

[–]cynicalwhiteteen 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I would fuck her retarded.

[–]fick_Dich 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think she might be already

[–]mateodeloso 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My goodness!

Some girls just need some alpha dick no matter the consequences.

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[–]DarkCircle 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That right there is PP in action.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fubar...

[–]sockmess 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes she looks good. So good that one would think it would be easy for her to find willing penis out of the classroom. Instead the classroom is where she goes to find it.

It's not even smart for two adults to have a relationship in the workplace. Yet her cougar drive usis making her do stupid decisions.

[–]frappucin0 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That kid's living the dream.

[–]balla21 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feels like the Adam Sandler movie

[–]tezkr 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

niice

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

NICE!!!!!

[–]Booyahkashah 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wood.

Err, would.

[–]Jack_Hinrichs 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

10/10 would be student of.

[–]F1r3bird 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

looks at photo hmm....

so... im 19, is that too old? where does she teach?

[–]fick_Dich 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't think she teaches any where any more

[–]F1r3bird 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh well, probably wouldn't have emigrated to america just to get myself molested either

I'll just joke about it because I have a sense of humor

Wink wink

[–]TrxpThxm 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would have fucked her.

[–]Dert_ 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lucky kids, wish I could have banged one of my teachers when I was in high school.

[–]Dert_ 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People need to realize that a female teacher doesn't hold much power over a male teenage student.

If those guys didn't want to fuck her, then they wouldn't have.

But when you take a strong, large, physically intimidating male teacher then he does hold a position of power against a much smaller teenage student.

I know you guys get equality boners, but male teachers with female students and female teachers and male students just aren't the same thing.

[–]dublbagn 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

every fucking time I read the article comments...maybe I am wrong...maybe she didnt rape anyone...maybe the 2 consenting ages for boys and girls should be different...maybe i am the crazy one who thinks its not ok for a teacher to fuck her underage students

[–]treytable 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

NICE!!!!!

[–]Ron-Swanson-Mustache 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But, she's hot!

[–]swelchqcs 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://i.imgur.com/6zeve8L.gif

[–]derzaubererzwiebeln-1 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Can someone please explain who was the accuser and why the hell this news article is saying she could face life imprisonment? I am in total disbelief

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

14 felonies. No accuser. She was caught out.

16 year old me would fuck the shit out of her. Adult me would happily see her cunt locked away for abuse in a position of power over someone underage.

[–]fuckgangstarap -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying what she did was right.. but... if I was the teenager that fucked her I would be the happiest kid on earth.. how could you fuck that up and get her arrested? She would be my fuck-buddy until she started getting old and ugly

So sure, she fucked up.. but so did the kid who'll never tap a piece of ass like that again.

Unless of course she broke it off with the kid. Then I'd report the bitch but probably try to black mail her a little bit first... Pussy or dollars and the cops don't need to be involved. But I'm a dickhead, so thats probably just me

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