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LANDMARK VICTORY for due process at UC San Diego | A Voice For Male Students

mankindglobalmedia

July 14, 2015
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http://www.avoiceformalestudents.com/john-doe-jane-roe-university-california-san-diego-due-process-sherry-mallory-title-ix-9/
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Title LANDMARK VICTORY for due process at UC San Diego | A Voice For Male Students
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mankindglobalmedia

Upvotes 163
Comments 38
Date July 14, 2015 9:50 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3d8j42/landmark_victory_for_due_process_at_uc_san_diego/
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Comments

[–]MatityahuHatalmid 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He should carry around campus the chair he sat in during the college hearing, as an art piece.

[–]pnw_diver 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And receive college credit for it, too.

[–]pnw_diver 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The "administrators" involved in the "hearing" should be fired summarily and immediately and barred from ever working in a position of power over any males ever again.

I hope John Doe now sues the living shit out of UCSD, receiving millions, and I hope the consequences of that lawsuit (presumably a Title IX suit) should include the total dismantling of this "hearing" process.

[–]ElMorono 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So much this. Now that he has the court ruling on his side, make this college pay out their fucking ass. Let them justify the loss of funds to their investors.

[–]SilencingNarrative 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That would only happen if he had broad public support for his plight. If his case resonated with the public. The public couldn't care less. Sir Tim Hunts remarks are a vastly more pressing issue on the public mind.

[–]Ovendice 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

It's a sad day when a 'victory' is merely stopping an illegal court that should have never existed at all. Why colleges started doing this shit is beyond insane in the first place. It's like, "Oh gee, I'm a man, one less psychotic way for women to make my life a living Hell on Earth out of the other 9500 ways." And WHY are these psycho 'courts' only now finally being addressed? What took so long? Why weren't all these proceedings shut down the day they started in all colleges like they should have been? Is there something I'm missing here?

[–]mochacola 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"It's a sad day when a 'victory' is merely stopping an illegal court that should have never existed at all."

Very much this. This should not be happening in the first place. The fact that feminists movement is installing these illegal courts in Universities after Universities, to get fundings, is atrocious. A victory, would be when this double whammy of financial fraud used to take away basic human rights from college boys, is exposed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was called "The Dear Colleague Letter."

[–]SilencingNarrative 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are not missing anything. Men are disposable.

[–]ZimbaZumba 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

This an appalling case and all to common, how many cases like this did not make it to court? Presumably a settlement case or negotiation will occur later.

I would also add that this type of thing happens by stealth within apparently well structured procedures, and not only for sexual assault cases. I have witnessed it first hand. An appeal by the respondent can be an overwhelming task. The resulting social damage can be catastrophic.

[–]nick012000 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

No need for a settlement. This was a total victory for the guy; all mentions of it were to be scrubbed from his academic record, and his suspension from the school was to be immediately terminated.

[–]SilencingNarrative 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You don't think the university should have to pay damages to the male student for how it treated him?

[–]nick012000 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well, he didn't ask for them, so probably not, no. Honestly, getting readmitted into university and having this expunged from his record is a pretty hefty monetary benefit to begin with, when you consider the dramatic difference in wages between people with university degrees and people without them.

[–]SilencingNarrative 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

If the only price the university pays is that they have to reinstate this particular student (they don't even have to pay his legal fees!), I don't think they are going to be in any hurry to overhaul their sexual assault greivance procedures, or to discipline the behavior of the administrators who acted with woefull disregard to the accused's rights.

Don't you think that the Dean of Student Affairs Sherry Mallory, for example, should be held responsible for her conduct throughout the case? If we cared about the due process rights of men and boys, shouldn't she be fired and disgraced? Do you think that is going to happen without a heavy sanction from the court?

I think her conduct was far worse that anything Larry Sommers said, or Sir Tim Hunt. I think the difference between how those academics were treated shows how little compassion we have for men and boys.

I don't dispute that this is an amazing victory, but that's more of a statement of the poverty of our starting position, than of how glorious our current position is. This is just the beginning of the fight for men's rights on campus. 'Total victory' implies that we can all go home and stop agitating or paying close attention.

The idea of using punative settlements to get institutions to take their responsibilities to uphold and establish proper respect for civil rights is a foundational principle in U.S. politics. Look at how Title IX has been handled since its inception, with a significant threat of federal lawsuits hanging over universities at all times.

Why is that principle off the table when its men's civil rights at stake?

[–]nick012000 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why is that principle off the table when its men's civil rights at stake?

It's not, but he didn't ask for the money, so why would he get any? He just wanted to go back to university and put it all behind him.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

false rape accusations exist and they are a weapon used by mentally ill women.

Men protect yourselves by at least avoiding contact with women who display even the slightest hint of mental illness.

I was hit with a false rape accusation after a breakup. There was zero consequence for the diagnosed bipolar woman who accused me.

[–]DavidByron2 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess this is about as good a result as I've seen but..... it's very little indeed. No punishment for the college, no damages, all the kid got was the punishment overturned so he can now go back to that same college -- who the fuck would want to -- after the eight months the process took instead of the 15 months suspension the college demanded.

They could just charge him with the same thing all over again. And really the judge isn't saying he's innocent just that the process was so ridiculously fucked up that they have to redo it. All the feminists would have to do is tick a few boxes, cross a few Ts .... but why bother since even with this result they kicked the young man off campus for almost a year?

No penalty beyond maybe humiliation. This wont stop them do it again.

[–]Sinsilenc 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Man that is screwed up...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The DoE needs to hold up federal funds from schools with these kangaroo courts. The local non-university police need to handle such serious accusations.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What if Jane Roe had been a girl at another school, or not in school at all?

It's fairly safe to say that a school can't punish a non-student, so the OTHER school couldn't expel John Doe, but could Jane Roe have filed a complaint with John Doe's school?

Anyone have any insight?

Maybe that's the solution: only date/hook up with girls who go to other schools or who aren't in school at all

[–]brontide 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

John Doe can be punished by his school's "administrative hearing" for violations of the school code of conduct based on a complaint from a non-student or Jane Roe can go to the police.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you know if Jane Roe would be able to file a Title IX suit if she is not a student? It seems like that's what these colleges care about, not getting sued and not looking bad on statistics.

[–]brontide 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not a suit, it's a violation of school policy. This happens all the time even without a formal complaint. Most schools will move forward on administrative sanctions against students with nothing more than a letter in the case of DMCA violations.

[–]bsutansalt 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What net effect does this ruling even provide? The school was wrong? Big deal. Or was this part of a lawsuit for damages to his career prospects? That'd be something for sure!

[+][deleted] 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

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[–]the-tominator 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In other words, our justice system was based on 'reals' - finding the truth, using reason and logic, giving proportionate and sensible sentences.

Like everything now, it's getting changed to be based more on 'feels' - making people feel safer, using emotions and bias, giving sentences that are sometimes terrifyingly short and sometimes draconianly harsh.

We can't take the enlightenment for granted. Our societies are already leaving the enlightenment values of truth, science and reason behind. I'm not sure if we're regressing, or if we're over-progressing - but what difference does it make? We're leaving behind a world of truth as we walk into a world of chaos. Order, humanity, empathy, rationality and justice will be the other major casualties. They will be replaced by chaos, animalisticness, callousness, superstition and injustice. And I'm not crazy, this is happening already and is very hard to deny.

[–]SideTraKd -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This is ludicrous.

The radfems do not speak for all women and plenty of men swallow their BS. They sure do like to claim that they represent all women.

Apparently you listened and believed.

[–]tallwheel 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Eh? It's not only the "radfems" that are responsible for this. And, the previous poster is right, that these are based on feminine principles, which are becoming the dominating and accepted standards of justice, starting with the universities. Why did you even have to mention radfems? It's not just them at all.

[–]SideTraKd 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

NOT "feminine" principles...

FeminIST principles.

More specifically, RADfem principles.

This has NOTHING to do with sexuality, and EVERYTHING to do with IDEOLOGY.

[–]tallwheel 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree with /u/Tqbfjotlds that we are dealing with feminINE principles here, not feminIST principles, so we will have to agree to disagree.

[–]SideTraKd 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What... so now Women = SJW?

Really..?

Because if you really believe that every woman in the country is against you, then you've already gone far beyond lost.

[–]pnw_diver 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The present-day judicial system is based on contributions by both men and women alike. The original built-exclusively-by-men justice system back in the 18th and 19th centuries wasn't so nice.

In those backwards times, any system built by women would have been just as unfair, but the point is that the modern system is built by both sexes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The original built-exclusively-by-men justice system back in the 18th and 19th centuries wasn't so nice

Beg to differ. Any system built on Blackwell is better than anything any woman can do in any era.

[–]Tmomp -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The article would be more compelling without the name-calling.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

If people are more upset by a brief metaphor comparing a thoroughly corrupt administration that wrecks students' lives in the name of "just following orders" to vipers than they are by the appalling and well-documented nature of this case (which happens to be 98% of the content on that article), then they are probably not the kinds of people I'd want to appeal to anyway. There's no way to get traction in a movement by limiting your message to people who are afraid of calling a spade a spade, especially in cases when the metaphor fits perfectly, you don't indulge it in expletives, and 98% of the message you are delivering is a detailed fact-based analysis of the case.

That being said, I'll make you a deal. When I hear from victims and their families, as well as the attorneys that I maintain constant communication with, that I'm going too far I'll let you know.

[–]pnw_diver 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The situation was sufficiently vile that name-calling was warranted. The article further was in the category of editorial/blogging not "reporting".

[–]megapoopfart 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm looking forward to this appearing in major news outlets....

[–]mochacola 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not gonna happen. It'll be buried. Just the way it is.

Then, some nutcase murders some woman, and some troll on internet forum praised the murderer, and that's when you start hearing "men's rights movement".

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