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This essay about female-on-male violence was written by a black-hispanic woman from a poor background. Let outrage flow like lava from a caldera.

MittRomneysCampaign

June 5, 2015
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/r/MensRights
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Title This essay about female-on-male violence was written by a black-hispanic woman from a poor background. Let outrage flow like lava from a caldera.
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MittRomneysCampaign

Upvotes 261
Comments 49
Date June 5, 2015 1:22 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–]Arby01 30 points31 points32 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That was a fucking awesome read. The writer is clear, entertaining and has great references. Comedy gold and more than a kernel of truth - especially for the "that doesn't really happen unless you deserve it" folks.

[–]thrway_1000 21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/poVau

[–]billbuxtable 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Yea I got to the part about Chelsea blocking the doorway in the men's room and I had to stop reading. I would have just shoved passed her and did my business.

[–]Arby01 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Which would give her an excuse to slug you and the whole scenario just happens earlier and it's not Shelby that is the instigator.

Although, I am not convinced you're wrong. That might work, it depends on exactly how macho and belligerent Chelsea is.

[–]billbuxtable 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Well, not trying to sound all hard or whatever, but if she "slugs me" then she's probably going to be spitting teeth about 2 seconds later; I'm all about equality.

Not that I would want it to get to that level, I'm not a big fan of violence; but I'll be damned if I don't treat her in the same manner I'd treat a guy in that situation though.

Bonus: I don't think she'll be blocking anymore doors to the men's room in clubs after that.

EDIT: Naa, I honestly don't think I'd punch her - I've never hit a female like that in my life. But I'd definitely shove her to the ground or something similar to let her know that she needs to just back-off, quietly.

[–]Arby01 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

well, sure.

That's what the whole scenario is about though - girl hits, gets hit back then 300 lb steroid monkey with an inferiority complex shows up to be an hero.

(and that's before we consider that Chelsea might actually have something behind that persona - I have known a few women that could hold their own in a brawl - that first punch might actually be an issue).

[–]billbuxtable 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I've known a few myself. But honestly, you don't hit someone in a bar and expect nothing in return, regardless of PC standards.

And you're right about the 300lb insecure guy coming to save the day wearing his cape - guys like him are what your friends are for.

Most of the times I've seen women lock horns with a man(mostly in bars) have always winded up with the guy holding back just enough to either lose or look like a complete punk for the exact same reasons you mentioned. Take that same guy and throw him in the ring with another guy and it's like his whole attitude changes and he just becomes ruthless. It's like he subconsciously just can't bring himself to go full-on against the female because he might have actually been raised with a little decency.

EDIT: If you want to save yourself all this trouble, then just date a black or a latino woman, then watch in awe at what happens to another female if she tries to put hands on you.

[–]Arby01 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's like he subconsciously just can't bring himself to go full-on against the female because he might have actually been raised with a little decency.

I tend to think it's a subconscious realization that this person doesn't understand what she is doing. This tends to apply even to the women who know how to fight.

If a guy starts something with person 100lbs heavier and 5" taller, they know what's coming. Women don't. They don't understand. They seem to think that they didn't get hospitalized because they tough or something. Not "I didn't get hospitalized because the guy was being nice by just decking me".

[–]jvardrake 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

They know. They absolutely freaking know.

This is female privilege. Knowing that you can openly attack someone WAY bigger than you, and knowing that even if that person should choose to defend themselves against your attack (which, most of the time, they won't), that you will instantly have other strangers running to your defense, even though you were the aggressor.

Then, when the police show up, you turn on the tear faucet, and get the police on your side with the, "Hee hit meeeeee!" stuff.

They. Freaking. Know.

[–]Arby01 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that you will instantly have other strangers running to your defense

that they know yes,

This is what I claim they miss -

didn't get hospitalized because the guy was being nice by just decking me".

[–]baskandpurr[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a shit test. You're supposed to overcome it to prove your value. By blocking the door she is both asserting her own value and challenging every male in the place to move her. Hence the "If you can't handle my worst you don't deserve my best" thing.

[–]ANUS_CONE 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would do the same thing. Except I would have made sure to sit in the stall exactly next to Shelby, and shit as hard and loud as possible.

[–]under_score16 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha, very nice writing style

[–]notnotnotfred 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Caution: she references the global gender gap report, which I have demonstrated is not about equality.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. If, at least, they'd called it the "Womens' Gap" Report I'd find it reasonably tolerable. Even then it still contains way too much statistical sleight-of hand as you've obviously noticed.

Pleased to see others are speaking up about it.

[–]Andrew_Squared 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Read the whole damn thing. Very entertaining.

[–]TheLonelySnail 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha vey nice... and sadly true

[–]GeorgeOlduvai 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Vaginas aren’t a trap card you can activate to bypass retaliation from hitting guys, just like penises aren’t a cheat code to enable woman-beating mode."

Beautiful.

[–]DrunkenKatamari 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

C y

[–]FookSake 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Quality writing

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know what everyone is enraged about on here....maybe you shouldn't comment until you read the whole thing. The post is literally about how bullshit it is that women are allowed to get away with hitting men and how her friends and the other guy reinforce this bullshit double standard.....seriously....you people are getting Pissed off at someone who is on our side...ridiculous

[–]philosarapter 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great article, funny too!

[–]qp0n 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was unequivocally epic. I feel sorry for her and the shitstorm sure to be coming her way.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was fantastic. I wish somebody could put that on college reading lists. "Before you go out drinking, read this. Sign to say that you understand it. Have a nice night "

[–]kragshot 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That shit was amazing on a Chuck Palahniuk level; just totally visceral and horrific.

I loved it.

[–]Bluebird_North 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not really MRA stuff. Just really funny writing with an observant eye.

[–]qp0n 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Except the 'exposition of blatant female privilege' & 'manipulating pregnancy to extract child support or else get sent to prison' shit... yeah not MRA stuff at all.

[–]Bluebird_North 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Meh. I see that as observant, not pushing an activist agenda.

[–]PerfectHair 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's wrong with pillow forts?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nothing, really -- it's in the presentation.

a pillow fort is the kind of thing you'd make while being silly at home, spur-of-the-moment. to label yourself a "pillow fort enthusiast" is to take this deliberate label and apply it to something opposite of deliberate; it's forced quirkiness, when quirkiness by nature isn't something that is forced.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you expect to be treated like everyone else, you should never put your hands on someone else unless you are 100% ready for them to hit you back, period.

Some good points in this article, but I couldn't be bothered with the hypothetical drama parts.

[–]Should_Be_Lurking -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Maybe I got sent to the wrong page or something but I had to stop reading in fear of losing brain cells. That was an essay of girl complaints, not female on male violence.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

not quite; the girls and guys in the essay each represent the archetypes of people that reinforce the mentalities that let women hit men but not vice versa. each archetype in this essay plays a role in perpetuating this belief through a series of social behaviors , up to the point where a guy (noah) hits a girl in response to being hit himself

[–]Should_Be_Lurking 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I couldn't even get to that part. After getting past the bathroom part I concluded that I couldn't take the author serious. She may have had a point, but they way she writes made me not care.

[–]1TrueScotsman 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think this was written with young women in mind, which is why I like it. Instead of the typical MRA/Anti-feminist research driven article she instead tells a story of a night out clubbing using the language, imagery and stereotypes young women are familiar with to argue against the feminist narrative without once saying the "f" word. That is, you are not the audience.

[–]Should_Be_Lurking -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Everything I read seemed like purely subjective opinion, with a lot of blanket statements sprinkled in. I can't say I gave it my full attention, but I think that's because it's written like it's someone's blog post.

[–]Arby01 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's more like an illustrative story. A parable if you will.

Yeah, it's sounds like it's someones blog post and has a definite voice - comedic/in your face-ish. The author takes a lot of potshots at the stereotypes they set up in the course of telling the story which causes it to delay and meander about. Some of it is unnecessary to the parable, other parts are clearly to defuse or prevent obvious arguments against the setup (Nicole).

If you don't like that sort of writing, you aren't going to enjoy reading it. It is a really good read though.

[–]qp0n 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Strange, had you read the entire thing you'd have learned it is the exact opposite of what you claimed it to be.

[–]bsutansalt -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's there, but you had to dig through that scribe. Her ranting about Shelbies was pretty funny though.

[+]Doulich -18 points-17 points-16 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

this is why I wish I could concealed carry.

pulling out a gun allows me to leave easily

[–]Arby01 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

pulling out a gun allows me to leave easily

No, it really doesn't. It puts you in a crowded confines escalating a situation into a defensible use of deadly force. When the guy with the pocket knife perforates your kidneys from behind, he is now acting appropriately since you have demonstrated deadly force. Shortly after that some guy to your right removes the gun since you either released it when stabbed or are still trying to figure out what the fuck is going on. Then he shoots you with it. (Which he ill claim was self defense, but that's a lot less defensible than the guy stabbing you in the back).

In other words, internet tough guy, you're a moron. Stay out of the situation in the first place.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

problem is Brandi also concealed carries

[+]Doulich -15 points-14 points-13 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

till a 9mm bullet enters her head

also if I get shot I sue for dolla dolla bills

[–]baskandpurr[🍰] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So lets see now. You shoot her, she dies and that great but if she shoots you, you don't die and get lots of money. Yes, thats exactly how this works.

[–]PerfectHair 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

pulling out a gun allows me to leave easily

In the back of a police car.

[–]Waxmaker 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unlikely in this scenario. There's only 4 states that allow guns in bars.

[–]shadowboxer47 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a gross misuse of firearms and completely irresponsible.

[+]OneHelluvaGuy -13 points-12 points-11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This writer is fucking terrible. I can't take her seriously at all.

[–]Bluebird_North 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think she's a great writer. Painted a great picture. This is more humor than political opinion.

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