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just stop being petty guys

September 8, 2022
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Title just stop being petty guys
Author BlackPillPusher
Upvotes 23
Comments 25
Date September 8, 2022 10:59 PM UTC (4 months ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/AllPillDebate/just-stop-being-petty-guys.1139601
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/x9ekod/just_stop_being_petty_guys/

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 23 points24 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Lol, weren't paternity tests banned in France because they were breaking up so many families?

I could see that happening in the US sometime soon.

Edit: yep, paternity tests in France have been banned since 1994 unless explicitly court ordered, "to preserve the peace within French families."


[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, I mean, can't hold women accountable, das muh soggy knee

[–]Hekinsieden 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's because they're all about the oui ouis in France.

[–]anonymous-platypus1 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel like I’m France it was both parties stepping out.

[–]mcove97NeutralPill 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Seriously? Didn't anyone appeal it?

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I edited my comment with a link.

People tried to appeal the ban on paternity tests but it was upheld by the supreme court in France.

Men tried to argue that "we have a right to know if a child is actually ours." But their rationale for upholding the ban on paternity tests is "To preserve the peace within French families."

Lmao. So the government inadvertently admitted they know how much women cheat on thier husbands, and if they allowed for paternity tests, thier already high divorce rates would rocket into the stratosphere. The government sees men as cash cows for women and children. Paternity tests would hinder that.

[–]mcove97NeutralPill 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

JFC... That's messed up

[–]smallstarseeker 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Paternity tests were banned in Germany as well, for the same reason "paternity tests destroy families".

However the law was changed several years ago.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He should be able to sue her for fraud. You can sue for that in China.

[–]hari_hbp 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

A paternity test is a way of finding out whether a woman cheated and the baby is a product of that. It's commonly accepted that women cheat, just as much as men do. I just find it funny that many women vehemently oppose paternity tests and makes me go, "well something doesn't smell right."

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

[–]hari_hbp 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not always about hiding. I understand one reason why they vehemently oppose it. For women who have been faithful to their husband, been dreaming about having a baby with him and after the gruelling delivery, being told about a paternity test would surely be really hurtful.

And to women who take pride in their morals/values, the insinuation of cheating - especially something as serious as paternity fraud - would be very insulting and devastating as well.

It's kind of a locked situation from both men's and women's sides.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

30% of women in the USA admit to paternity fraud. The numbers are likely higher. Paternity test should be mandatory.

Sorry folks. This is a false statement. It's 32% of paternity test found fraud. But the actual incident rate in the population is 2%.

Paternity test shouldn't be mandatory, BUT it should be legal to request one if suspicion is held by the father.

[–]EviessVeralan 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you have a source for that?

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for inquiring. It forced me to verify the point.

I will have to recant my statement as I have mis-interpreted the talking point.

The correct statement is 32% of paternity test found fraud. Thus the sample is bias towards men who already have suspicion that their child may not be theirs. Thus we cannot conclude it to represent the whole population.

Roughly 300,000 paternity test are done yearly in the USA.

There's roughly 3,700,000 births per year in the USA.

The number of paternity test isn't the problem, because 300,000 test is significant enough to make the confidence interval small. But the sampling data is not random, thus it's not possible to determine how much of this can represent.

From wikipedia

Research published in 2016 indicated that one in 50 British fathers is unknowingly raising a child who is the biological child of another man, and that misattributed paternity is rarer than commonly believed.[4]

A 2005 scientific review of international published studies of paternal discrepancy found a range in incidence, around the world, from 0.8% to 30% (median 3.7%).[5] However, as many of the studies were conducted between the 1950s and the 1980s, numbers may be unreliable due to the inaccuracies of genetic testing methods and procedures used at the time. Studies ranging in date from 1991 to 1999 quote the following incidence rates: 11.8% (Mexico), 4.0% (Canada), 2.8% (France), 1.4% and 1.6% (UK), and 0.8% (Switzerland).[5] These numbers suggest that the widely quoted and unsubstantiated figure of 10% of non-paternal events is an overestimate. However, in studies that solely looked at couples who obtained paternity testing because paternity was being disputed, there are higher levels: an incidence of 17% to 33% (median of 26.9%). Most at risk were those born to younger parents, to unmarried couples and those of lower socio-economic status, or from certain cultural groups.[6]

A 2008 study in the United Kingdom found that biological fathers were misidentified in 0.2% (1 in 500) of the cases processed by the Child Support Agency. Of that 0.2%, those resolved with DNA paternity testing between 2004 and 2008 showed that between 10 and 19% of mothers had misidentified the biological father; data about why mothers identified the wrong biological father was not available

This is probably more correct as the study is more likely to be random sampling.

So I will now use 2% as the incident rate as the population as a whole.

[–]Sea_Particular_9086 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hell nah dudes deserves to be petty in this situation if he chooses 🤣. Her hiding that for 8 years, dude needs a rebate of that money back.

[–]Hekinsieden 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Being an Incel doesn't seem so bad after all.

[–]Taipanshimshon 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Her child failed? LMAO

[–]Tatarh 3 points4 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I believe this aint mere stupidity. It's an expression of a policy... War on mind? Perchance

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 3 points4 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

It's the female imperative, and it's not different in any other sexually reproducing species on the planet, if you don't believe my admittedly bold claim ask away, I can provide examples.

[–]Tatarh 2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Without our humanity we are retarded chimps. If this is the game played all that will be left is Elon Musks photo album in some silicon

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

This is a fascinating take, what exactly makes you think we're better than "retarded chimps", as you say?

[–]Tatarh 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

That otherwise we should have been dead by now.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"My son failed"

Jesus....where is that fucking meteor?

[–]Nighthanger 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Chicks a clown.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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