Former red pills can I know what damage is caused by red pill?

Several-Passenger320 · 2023-01-04T10:59:54+00:00

Not loving to be in a relationship. When you have to overanalyze your relationships become robotic. You always do X in intent of getting Y in a person, Y being a reaction, attraction scale rising on them towards you, or whatever else.

This is putting someone else on a pedestal, and you'll care too much about them over yourself. This isn't healthy nor self-sustainable.

Sure it works, you get laid, but in the long run, it isnt worth it. You'll burn out.

The only valuable of TRP is the theory of why attraction works the way it does in human species, this ultimatly helped me to understand how I should behave, not to attract a mate, but because some of those traits are good to integrate for yourself.

IE: I learned to give women space, not being needy; (TRP teaches this is done to spike attraction, which is true, but they miss the point that this is done because you're a healthy human being who respects boundaries and isnt selfish)

IE2: not being on my phone talking to them all the time and setting up a date to meet instead. (TRP teaches that this is to keep the women on the edge of her seat and spike attraction, in reality, i integrate this still, but under the philosophy of doing this for boundaries, I cant have people get into the habit to expect me to be their gameboy; and because I cant get into the mindset where I delay asking her out, because of insecurities)

Depending on how far TRP you get, the more miserable you can be. I started out with Corey Wayne and Doc Love, there's some good advice in it though, but there's also some manipulative BS. I really dont think CW for instance, is happy nor healthy in the head, no matter how much he deludes himself - and you can see how he projects his anger in his video at his audience who question his material; he knows deep down he isnt happy but isnt willing to change

Arcaribus · 2023-01-04T09:22:47+00:00

Some women I really liked I could have had if I wasn't so narrow minded. Instead I got pretty much none. Spiraled down into depression and suicidal thoughts.

The red pill is what preys on people with shitty lives promising them hope and then making them chase the carrot. This mentally destroys you.

A lot of authors of the books that red pill recommends reading have stated some time after writing those books that they regret writing them, because when they followed their own advice they became miserable as hell. And say that now that they stopped it, actually feel much better.

It doesn't make you look at your own mental health. So it lets it fester. When in fact, a shit ton lot of your problems would be fixed if you did just that.

thrifteddivacup · 2023-01-04T12:39:48+00:00

Well as a woman it made me feel beyond worthless.

xcvc1999 · 2023-01-04T12:55:57+00:00

It made me hate myself even though I was and am actually a pretty great woman. I had multiple Red Pillers in my life and they all abused me badly, then they lied to people about it. I could no longer see my worth. Ended up being diagnosed with Complex PTSD and lost my career from all the panic attacks from being emotionally and mentally abused for so long and not being able to leave it. They've all been kicked out of my life though.

AssistTemporary8422 · 2023-01-05T03:51:09+00:00

The redpill makes you angry at women which makes it harder for you to date. It gives you an avoidant attachment style in relationships which results in you not getting your needs met and hurting others. It teaches you that you need to do a ton of self-improvement to do well in relationships, when 95% of guys don't do that and do just fine. It can make some guys emotionally abusive in relationships.

squirrelscrush · 2023-01-04T18:17:39+00:00

Fell into depression for like half a year because I couldn't catch up with the alpha persona (due to my commitment towards studies etc) Started petty fights related to the redpill with my friends especially the girls, to try to prove my point and make them redpill too. This put a lot of cracks in my friendships. Put me in a worse mental state than I was in the bluepill. Really wore me out, and then I went in the blackpill and just filled vitriolic stuff in my brain for nothing. Due to this I lost a lot of time and energy which I could have put towards my studies, friends and family

But the worst regret is that: there was a girl whom I started strongly liking at that time, we both were very similar to each other, only thing was that she a better version of myself, better in studies, was fairly secure etc But instead of talking to her like every person should do I invested more time being alpha. Like even to message her I used to analyse my messages, never tried to show my true self to her. Even my friends tried to persuade me to be my true self but I didn't listen. Later as I was getting detoxed I started talking to her and being good friends. Found out she just didn't care about all this redpill stuff, she just wanted to live a normal life. Asked her out after some months but got rejected, but we still remain good friends till date.

Stargazer1919 · 2023-01-05T20:05:04+00:00

I had a parent that was sort of redpilled. (He would not have known about redpill but he harbored the exact same beliefs.)

It beyond fucked me up. I still have CPTSD. It doesn't go away.

l-arc-en-ciel777 · 2023-01-09T18:03:32+00:00

I had just almost been killed by my dad, my mom's boyfriend at the time had convinced her to kick me out 3 weeks later and whilst she set me up with her friend, I had two months to get an apartment. I was running 3 jobs, between Starbucks, American Eagle, and Doordash just for extra cash to make enough money to get my own apartment. This was during the beginning of lockdown in 2020, and I was mainly introduced by watching Stephiscold, later watching Fresh & Fit, and eventually picking up and mainly watching Hamza.

The most damaging part of Red Pill is the inherent Machiavellian aspect of it. In a Red Pill world, you have to make others beneath you in order to be high value as to be high value implies there's a subset of people who must be low. My interactions became a lot more condition focused and I was self isolating because when people tried to get to know me, I'm sure I came off very calous and unfriendly. I burnt or damaged a lot of bridges where I could have made friends or built good connections with people. It makes you very self deterministic too, which is a trap that makes people become unhappy very quickly when those goals aren't coming quick enough.

When I finally ditched Red Pill close to a year ago, had a couple counseling sessions, etc. I noticed a massive improvement in my life overall. I no longer feel any underlying antagonism to people, and I really am able to go with the flow way more consistently whereas when I was Red Pill I actually had somewhat of explosive anger when the slightest deviation from my establish idea of "what should be" was put off course. I have been bestowed the most powerful rizz to such a degree I start to get self conscious occasionally because I still feel sort of undesirable from time to time. Like it's actually overwhelming how much better things are because I remember how bad they were, and that I'd cope with the red pill.

Title	Former red pills can I know what damage is caused by red pill?
Author	xcvc1999
Upvotes	13
Comments	38
Date	January 4, 2023 9:05 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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