The Most Dangerous "Red Pill" Lie

bluemagex2517 · 2024-05-02T12:33:05+00:00

One of the things that makes the red pill such a hard thing to combat is that it's a multi-headed hydra so to speak. By that I mean that there is more than one type of red-piller. Primarily there are two groups. The first group is made up of men with low sexual and dating experience (many of which identify or have identified as incels). The second group is made up of very controlling men who worship traditional masculinity. There is quite a bit of overlap between the groups, and they don't account for 100% of members together, but there is a clear delineation between the two groups if you observe the red pill community for an extended period of time.

Your article does a good job of addressing the first group. Many of the men with low experience need this sort of advice. They need to address their issues and become problem solvers in regards to their own lives. Though, I would make it more methodology focused as a message and less results focused.

Unfortunately the same message is the opposite of what the second group of red-pillers need. The trad masc control guys need to accept that they can't control everything in life. They need to let some things go. They need to let women and non traditionally masculine men live their lives without criticism or coercion. The message of "you need to take more personal accountability" for them is a dangerous one. They've already extended their sense of personal accountability way outside of where it belongs. Extending it any further just invites them to try to control others even more.

I'm not saying this is a bad article by any means. I just think you should think more about these two groups of red pillers and how you can address either both of them or be clear that you're addressing one and not the other.

IrishShee · 2024-05-02T11:29:21+00:00

I loved this! Thanks for sharing.

Also, don’t think we didn’t notice the little brag you slipped in there about 100+ models 😂

B_D_Ryan · 2024-05-02T12:30:28+00:00

Good stuff. I think you nailed an important perspective on TRP.

Champ_Slice · 2024-05-03T02:48:42+00:00

I used to consider myself redpill and mgtow. And as far as what it originally was I still consider myself to be that way. The problem is people think if you are pro male betterment than you have to be anti female. That is why you get a lot of these losers calling themselves high value and an alpha. Dude, I dont give two shits about what anybody thinks about me outside of the people I care for and I truly believe everybody should be the same but to each their own. The problem is these people who preach red pill and mgtow are so full of themselves that over time they have moved the goal post. Im for everybody getting better male or female. I just happen to be male. Some of these jackasses sicken me.

octave120 · 2024-05-03T17:31:38+00:00

As I was reading, I couldn’t help but think of that “it’s not your fault” scene from Good Will Hunting. 😆

All jokes aside, thank you for this! I enjoyed reading it, and I hope more men will read it.

EnemyOfTrust · 2024-05-02T19:28:47+00:00

It's not my fault. I was mislead due to a vulnerability in my psychology. I should buy an ebook.

Wait... 🤔

Thucydidnt · 2024-05-03T00:15:15+00:00

Of course it has nothing to do with the fact that you can count the number of women you’ve approached in your life on one hand and rely too much on dating apps, or that you view women as objects to conquer rather than as human partners, or that your pessimism and attitude of self-victimization make you absolutely insufferable. Take the red pill or the black pill or whatever color pill!

Why is there this constant assumption that men who have real trouble finding sexual or romantic partners don't ask people out, don't have friends or social lives, only rely on dating apps, think of women as objects to obtain or whatnot? Why is there is assumption that I hate women?

Schmutzcityusa · 2024-05-02T12:56:05+00:00

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Sometime in the near future I’m interested in pivoting towards writing about more social and cultural topics like this. I also write about travel and other self improvement stuff.

Title	The Most Dangerous "Red Pill" Lie
Author	michaelchief
Upvotes	33
Comments	22
Date	May 2, 2024 8:55 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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