Before I join, I have some questions.

DistrictAccurate · 2021-03-02T19:41:56+00:00

FML, accidentally deleted my draft.

Anyway:

No need to take from others. There is no limited supply of empathy, fair trials, non-violent enforcement of the law etc. Only exception would be funding, of which we currently have about none, so I doubt we will even receive reasonable amounts during my lifespan.
Even if, men are strongly suffering from internalized misandry aswell, being mainly violent towards and killing men for reasons they would rightfully not touch a woman, etc. And Of course I do not want more violence against women, I want less violence against men. No idea why some are advocating for anything different. Men restricting other men's freedom in their sexuality and sexual orientation, etc. I think we all know that all of this is an issue society as a whole has to tackle, no need to take from someone.

That being said, we do allow right-wing guests and feminist-guests to voice their opinions, so you will have to endure those too. That's a given in a constructive environment.

Criticism of feminists is applied when it is reasonable, as seen here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/lec134/re_do_you_guys_hate_feminism/

As I state there, the definition may be great and if it wasn't so far from reality most of us would call themselves feminists. That being said, I do not call myself MRA or whatever either as I am generally against hiding stuff in ambiguous labels. I call misandry misandry and misogyny misogyny. When we critisize labels like toxic masculinity, we usually mean the label. As stated above, I call the violence and ristriction mainly put on men misandry and those put on women misogyny. As I said countless times before, I support femboys, anal stimulation can be quite pleasurable for any person of any gender and sexual orientation and so on. Stuff that is arguably met with irrational shaming, agression and violence. I need no additional label to call that out as the internalized misandry it is though.

But if you'd want us to abuse your issues for the advancement of feminism or be otherwise hesitant to put things as they are, then you won't be happy here either, as this is a sub that mainly deals with men's issues.

Personally, I believe this sub to be the closest currently existing to actual egalitarianism. And most would be open to civil debates in cases of disagreement.

Forgetaboutthelonely · 2021-03-02T20:10:18+00:00

I'm one of the head mods here. But one thing to note is that most users won't see the number of posts that are removed for rules 2 and six. Which are a LOT. I've had users repeatedly message me for their being banned for these rules.

of course. You don't need to believe me. That's why I'm glad others on the sub have advocated the same.

angry_cabbie · 2021-03-02T22:39:08+00:00

I unsubbed from /MRA a year or two ago, partly because of the vitriol.

This place has seemed much more of what I wish /MRA was.

Blauwpetje · 2021-03-03T08:25:04+00:00

The people who have been here for some time will all say this sub is great or at least ok - or they would have split long ago. I'd say: scroll through the posts and the reactions, see what it all is about, what topics are talked about, how many opinions there are, which opinions are quite frequent and which are an exception, the way people react to each other... You'll get more information that way than from answers to your question, which are necessarily subjective and always too short.

burninginthedistance · 2021-03-02T23:13:54+00:00

I'm basically brand new here, but there's something I want to comment on from your post. You have to recognize that a bias already exists, and that sexist intent will automatically be assumed if you criticize feminism. That is because feminism has grown to represent equality of women as a whole, and the concept of modern female victimhood is now engrained into the fabric of society. It is important to emphasize this, because feminism at the core is a dangerous, anti-male movement, that has gained significant public support and acceptance.

This isn't some bullshit about how women should be back in the kitchen, of course women should have equal rights and opportunities, and be seen as capable mothers, managers, CEO's, senators, etc. Real feminism isn't about this, it is more radical, it believes that society perpetuates institutionalized sexism versus women on the basis of gender, it seeks to dismantle and reform the system. They don't believe that biology plays a meaningful role in issues of sexism, they insist that everything is social conditioning.

This is a massive problem, because it gives feminism license to blame men for every female problem in existence, and they hold no blame or responsibility for the state of sexism, because everything is a product of how men view and treat women in the world, and thus the problems entirely fall on men. When it came to real sexism, they had legitimate points, but now that we are much more equal, they are still viewing biological differences as institutional sexism. I don't know quite how to explain it, because it is bizarre and contradictory, they don't live within the confines of reality, everything is a slight against them.

I'm talking about feminists, and how their ideology pertains to women, I'm not generalizing all women.

literally-in-pain · 2021-03-02T19:06:38+00:00

It's remarkably good.

UnHope20 · 2021-03-02T22:56:37+00:00

I only been active here for a couple of months. But I really like it here. In general, there is open criticism of feminism but we are all pretty strong in our egalitarian views.

As a RadMasc, I believe in absolute equality in ALL things.

EDIT: I realize that it isn't possible to have perfect equivalence in all things since there are anatomical differences. But the law should do it's best to even the playing field.

For example, pregnancy abortion for women and financial abortion for men would be something that I am in favor of seeing.

Long_Cut_7015 · 2021-03-02T20:04:54+00:00

But why this question is asked to men only ? i never see people call out women's groups and ask them to clean the misandry in their ranks ! Mainstream feminists openly say "why can't we hate men?" but people still think feminism is a movement for gender equality and when they see a random man say something offensive they blame all men and declare MRA as a hate group !!

This double standard need to stop.

Title	Before I join, I have some questions.
Author	Itasenalm
Upvotes	22
Comments	32
Date	March 2, 2021 6:37 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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