How come every time it's a women's issues threads and you bring up the fact that it's an issue for everybody, you get spammed with hate? But when it's a men's issues thread they have no problem saying "Women face this too" and get hundreds of upvotes.

Hotporkwater · 2024-12-13T19:44:49+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/science/s/5EOlbQO8ID

This study just dropped last month and demonstrates your point perfectly. Society is culturally designed to cater to the feelings and vulnerabilities of women.

Even though this is a scientifically true fact, people on certain subs would still downvote me into oblivion for even making the point. This is why men get radicalized into shitty incel spaces. We at least need to be able to agree on some common realities without getting silenced immediately.

Not even taking into account other studies that show women's work is rated higher quality during performance reviews than men's work, even when it's the same work. No 'social justice warrior' is going to take a problem with that, because they don't actually care about equality.

OddSeraph · 2024-12-13T18:27:23+00:00

Bro, just the other day this happen in askmenadvice. The question was "do men not want to get married anymore" or something. I simply said men don't want to marry shitty women and the women who have a problem with that are part of the problem.

Not that controversial right? After all with 1) women don't want to marry shitty men and 2) we always hear if it's not about you why are you getting offended?

How about so many people felt the need to reply some weird gotcha responses or make it about how no one wants to be with shitty people or just taking offense at it or calling men shit.

Clockw0rk · 2024-12-13T19:24:38+00:00

Decades of female supremacist domga.

The man haters won.

"The Future is Female". On little girl's shirts. A slogan for the unironic genocide of the male half of the species, gently twisted with a lack of context into a transparent anthem for female supremacy. The quaint notion that women will inheirit the earth alone, because they prefer it that way.

The women who don't see men as humans, get to write the script for popular feminism. And it wasn't new. It was present in every "wave", from Seneca Falls to Twitter.

Men need to take notice of what's going on. The girls are being poisoned by the worst of women, no different than the boys being poisoned by the worst of men. Toxic Feminity is different from Toxic Masculinity, because the people recognize only one of these plagues upon society. Women, by the design of feminism, can do no wrong. That was always the plan.

The rose colored lie that "Feminism is for equality" is a lie perpetuated by misandrists to mask the obvious within the ranks of the loyal. Men are the enemy. Women's liberation is about attaining the rights and privledges of men, not about granting men the rights and privledges of women.

If we truly cared about equality, we'd be egalitarians.

Same as it ever was.

YetAgain67 · 2024-12-13T19:27:37+00:00

You know the answer: hypocrisy. Virtually every single aspect around the current gender war conversation just goes back to libfem hypocrisy.

SchalaZeal01 · 2024-12-13T20:06:14+00:00

Because they believe that the men who bring the issue up on women threads do so to tell people to "do nothing about it, like you do for men", and aren't concerned for male victims. Basically, to them all MRAs are concern-trolls who want to reduce funding for victims. Because of course male victims are a tiny tiny minority in this ez-mode men's world made by men for men, right?

vegetables-10000 · 2024-12-13T22:52:04+00:00

The irony is they say men only bring up their issues when women talk about their issues.

The reality is they think women's issues are more important than men's issues as a default.

It's not like they think women should focus on their own issues. While men focus on their own issues.

They also think women's issues should be men's main concern too. And will get angry if they see men focusing on men's issues.

I made a post about this the other day.

Sure-Vermicelli4369 · 2024-12-13T22:25:15+00:00

Reddit is a femcel cesspit

Mysterious-Citron875 · 2024-12-13T19:26:13+00:00

Young man...you, too, can be a hero!

Trump4Prison-2024 · 2024-12-15T05:16:00+00:00

I wish I could find it, but it was a few years ago, there was a post on AITAH (which I'm pretty sure was an experiment due to how carefully it was worded) that basically described a rape victim wondering if they were at fault for their rape, and whether they were the asshole for being upset about it. They got too drunk, they were being flirty, they passed out and thus never said no, etc etc. Ly95950608 The names could have gone either gender, I think something like the victim was Vic and the rapist was Sam. Pronouns were carefully avoided.

At first it was absolutely filled with "oh hunny yo got raped, report him, get a rape kit done ASAP, and send his fucking ass to prison". About a day later, an edit popped up and said "EDIT: sorry for the confusion. I (Vic) am a man, and Sam is a woman"

It was absolutely stunning how quickly the narrative from the exact same people that were destroying Sam suddenly switched their tune immediately to YTA for leading her on or whatever nonsense excuse making they came up with. A bunch of women deleted their initial comments, because god forbid a man could be the victim. Some women even said he was the asshole for misleading Reddit in the initial post.

Comfortable-Wall-594 · 2024-12-14T10:09:12+00:00

Men and women are not monoliths, nor hiveminds, we all have different opinions.

While some men and women heavily dislike when some attention is taken away from one group, others will take part in reminding everyone that they experience it too, because many people fear being forgotten.

Lanavis13 · 2024-12-14T16:30:13+00:00

Because of misandry, the incorrect notion that men/women are in a strict oppressor/oppressed dichotomy where if men are also suffering from an issue that means women are not, and the (incorrect) belief that women are always the number one victim.

janedolores · 2024-12-14T20:05:57+00:00

It’s literally just toxic masculinity. Men are not supposed to complain and or have any problems, just “take it” and “deal with it”

TaskComfortable6953 · 2024-12-15T03:42:33+00:00

gynocentrism driven by gamma bias and the woman are wonderful fallacy

Roge2005 · 2024-12-15T06:44:07+00:00

In my case I think it depends on what kind of discussion it is. If it’s an issue that mainly affects women then yeah, I’d understand why people would care more about the most affected demographic so I wouldn’t say anything because I think it’s not the time for that. But then when there’s an issue that’s 50/50 between men and women I’d say that it’s not necessary to focus on one over the other here.

Though about the last one about people saying that an issue affects women when someone is talking about men, I haven’t experienced that, but it’s also because I haven’t really talked that many times about mens issues in public.

Because I also hesitate a lot when I want to talk about mens issues because I think people will feel like it’s a zero sum where supporting men will take away from feminism. When actually it’s not and both can help eachother, I would even say I support both Feminism and MRAs.

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