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[β]MNCPA134 points135 points136 points 7 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link
Divorced dad here.
When a guy tells me that he is getting married, I tell him congrats but I ask him why he wants to get married. Usually, I hear the line of 'I love her' or 'it's the right thing to do.'
You can still love someone and spend your life with them. There really isn't an upside for a male to get married. There are countless downside such as potential alimony, etc.
My only piece of advice for a guy that wants to get married today, is to read the 'Duluth Wheel of Control' and think about it. At first, they will think it won't happen to them. Then, they will notice the subtle hints of feminist 'empowerment.'
[β]psy_raven35 points36 points37 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
You think the feminist and the white knights haven't thought of this already? Common law marriage makes her your wife even without a single scrap of document or a ceremony that say so. Yup. Screw the guy every which way possible. No wonder so many guys see MGTOW as the only solution. Seriously, the system is so stacked against men that THERE IS NO VIABLE WAY to protect yourself. Pre-nup, no ceremony, no marriage license, nothing protects you against the system.
[β]feraxil8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Not everywhere has common law. Its pretty uncommon in the states. Only NY and CA have it as far as I'm aware.
[β]psy_raven17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Here are the states that officially recognize common law marriage.
Alabama Colorado District of Columbia Georgia (if created before 1/1/97) Idaho (if created before 1/1/96) Iowa Kansas Montana New Hampshire (for inheritance purposes only) Ohio (if created before 10/10/91) Oklahoma (possibly only if created before 11/1/98. Oklahomaβs laws and court decisions may be in conflict about whether common law marriages formed in that state after 11/1/98 will be recognized.) Pennsylvania (if created before 1/1/05) Rhode Island South Carolina Texas Utah
Regardless, most, if not all states, will allow the women to sue you for support/assets if you've been with her long enough. Also, if you've lived in one of the above states, most other states will uphold the marriage. And prenuptial agreements will always be challenged and in many cases, be won by the women, especially if she fabricates some story that somehow she was abused and the judge buys it (which almost always, they do).
[β]feraxil9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Huh.
TIL.
Shit's crazy.
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Damn. Ya know, I remember in my late 20s dating women in their early 30s and then breaking up with them b/c I didnt want to take those last few years of their youth, rather than them chasing some dude who would actually marry them. But to see that same ethic ingrained in law... is just fucking fucked up.
It's a woman's responsibility to make sure she finds her beta bux.
It's not the government's responsibility to enforce that shit.
This is basically the government saying "Hey, you better buy that cow you've been fucking, because she only has a few years left."
[β]NeverNeverLandIsNow1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I see a larger future for MGTOW.
[β]voatisreality1111 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Alabama
Common law marriages ended in 2017 in Alabama
Also while I still don't recommend it I think the common law marriage thing is overblown on MGTOW. I think all but 2 have the following requirements also with burden of proof required.
[β]MNCPA3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think IA has it after 7-10 years.
[β]spiesvsmercs0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
CA is a state without common law marriage or "palimoney" I believe.
[β]oirectine004 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Someone's gotta pay for women's exhorbitant spending and account for women's net drain on the tax system.
[β]UltraCarnivore20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Powerful lines you use with young men, sir.
[β]jigaboorainstorm9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I am tens of thousands into my divorce rape with false accusations of DV, accusations of substance abuse, ACCUSATIONS OF ANYTHING. The mother of my kiddos often used to say she never cares about money, would never do this and etc.
She lied. For a decade. As soon as it was potential alimony time she flipped everything around.
She lied about agreeing to get a job go to school start working and etc.
Never again. Period. Not even kidding.
All it takes is a few crooked female friends listening to the womanβs lies and coaching her to feminist power.
If youβve ever raised your voice that is considered abuse. If youβve ever showed any anger or emotion they twist it as abuse and remove your humanity and rights to emotions.
[β]wheredidiputit 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The mother of my kiddos often used to say she never cares about money, would never do this and etc.
AWALT my dude. They all say that shit to lull us into compliance.
[β]Original_Username71 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All of this happened to me too.
[β]Highborn_Hellest10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
thanks dude. btw it's about the Duluth model right?
[β]catfishuntertompson 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's always women getting abused according to that model...Women are incapable of abuse, huh? Wanna see the scars from when I got cut by a GF, duluth model?
[β]fuckingjakedebrusk 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ya actually I would
just out of morbid curiosity
[β]MNCPA7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. Sorry, from Minnesota. They still hold conferences about men's power over women under the guise of equality.
[β]arsenewengerjacket3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Divorced Dad also, when someone I know is getting married I congratulate the and I ask him, what's wrong with your relationship that you want to get married, they are like WTF, it's great, I love the woman, I then say, okay, cool, good for you, then why involved the government and get married if everything is perfect with your woman.
It's a seed I sow, every man has to make their own choices and the best method is to sow seeds.
It's gets them thinking all the same.
[β]Careful_Description4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Can one just not sign the papers? Just be married by word of mouth?
[β]MNCPA6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It takes two to get married, but one to get divorced....
[β]Careful_Description2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry I meant both agree but they don't sign any marriage documents.
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[β]MNCPA0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Source?
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[β]MNCPA0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://youtu.be/xbPQFaje94g
Not the jingle but really hits in the feels for dads.
[β]TheHappyPie3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Every guy ought to be consulting a divorce attorney either before they get married or during.
My simp friend owned his house and his car, then he got married.
Wife tells him they should buy a new house, their "forever" house. He agrees and they go house shopping. They sold the old house and both names go on the new deed. This was 18 months ago.
Obviously they're getting divorced, but in MI the laws say that if you enter the marriage with a home/car you keep the home/car. But since he put his money into a common bank account and then bought a house, everything is 1/2 hers. I can't imagine this girl is smart enough to have researched divorce laws to have planned all this, but it sure does seem like it.
He doesn't have alimony or child support (shared custody) so I guess he got off pretty well, but he still had to pay her like 40k to go away.
[β]wheredidiputit 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I can't imagine this girl is smart enough to have researched divorce laws to have planned all this
Never underestimate a thot. Even if she didn't, she has her conniving vile feminist men hating friends who HAVE done the research and told her all about it before he even proposed. Nothing like this is just "chance" or "dumb luck" when shit lines up perfectly like you describe. This woman had a plan and executed it to perfection.
[β]Fabianstrategy11 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but her mom might be a pro.
[β]gaia20082 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
100%
[β]toerrisbadsyntax0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree with 95%...
Except
You can love women, or understand them - not both. We're here because we understand women... And we understand not to cohabitate with them.
And yes.. The Duluth model is bullshit
[β]zubbs9991 points92 points93 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No more getting kicked in the pokeballs.
[β]tdh7929 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So many skankichus too.
[β]Atton_Risk79 points80 points81 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sums it up pretty well.
[β]Enigma22156 points57 points58 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Stupid fucking bitches thought they could keep this game going forever. Fuck off we'll end it ourselves and hopefully end life too.
[β]Widerstand54323 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Invest in the oil & gas industry π
[β]Xxtourlife14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How about sex dolls Industry?
[β]allgood20991 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dont forget boxed wine and cat food
[β]roy2828211 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And also big pharma companies. Anti depressants will be in huge demand.
[β]Enigma2218 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How can I get started
[β]got_sweg7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We need the details my guy. Maybe a good source to read up and self teach
[β]boytjie7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A better bet would be the solar industry, not dirty, passe, polluting stuff like oil.
[β]Widerstand5436 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Investing in solar isn't going to help you end humankind... Oil might.
[β]boytjie1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, but investing in solar means we go down fighting. The Great Cosmic Consciousness is more sympathetic to a race that goes extinct swinging than one (humankind) ending with a passive whimper (as we would with oil investment).
[β]BandaidBrigidier 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thereβs much better things to invest in
[β]U-941 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nah, top 15 military contractors: https://247wallst.com/special-report/2018/07/02/americas-15-biggest-defense-contractors/2/
[β]Widerstand5430 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Chinese or Russian maybe. US defense industry is a bunch of women sucking up to the pentagon for bloated contracts https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/top-us-defense-firms-led-women/story?id=56564622
[β]HumanCabbage26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Unfortunately... Common law marriage means you can be divorce raped . Do not live with a woman more than x years if you don't want to be married to her
[β]Itisforsexy21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If you still play this crazy game, do not marry cohabitate or have kids with a woman. Always wear a spermicide condom, ALWAYS. Document all interactions with text messages before and after. This doesn't necessarily protect you but it does make a DA less likely to prosecute a false rape or DV charge. Stay away from single moms and married women (who will cry rape if they're caught cheating).
And one other element I've found helps weed out the more crazy girls (all girls are crazy to some extent), only ever date girls who had a good relationship with their father.
[β]Sir_manalot8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Here is the question that I have to ask, why the hell are people still trying to play the game here?
Even if you do not cohabitate, she might accuse of rape someday or give you an STD.
And even discluding that, hookers are cheaper and have the added bonus of not spoiling women and making them worse
[β]Itisforsexy10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mostly in the transition phase between the blue pill and MGTOW, a lot of men can't accept, or act regardless of the fact that women have so much power over us. The want the experience of dating a real woman that is after them for sex, not money (though this is only possible if you're a Chad).
[β]ZavalasBounty1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Hell hath no fury..."
Unless you are using an alias and traveling quite a bit, you piss off the wrong "plate" or FWB and you better HOPE you have a phone alibi and no incriminating bullshit in your place. You get arrested JUST ON HER WORD.
Anyone who wants to stick their dick in that, you're welcome to it. I just hope the ladies from my past don't ever find me when they need to feel like heroic victims.
this seems like it needs to be its own post
[β]wheredidiputit 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
all girls are crazy to some extent
FTFY
[β]memelord360420 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why the fuck would you want to live with a woman? I'd rather live with Hannibal lecter at least I would die quicker
[β]drakal723 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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[β]harmonic_blast 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
three assholes
[β]MGTOWManofMystery20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Now they can't catch us all!
[β]Joroda16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
If guys still don't get it after this poundmetoo false allegations fiasco, they see what's happening and seriously still go out and get married, those dumb fuckers deserve to lose every cent and the very last drop of dignity.
[β]swapnilsathe12 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not JUST false accusations. It's the blatant hyppocracy. What they dont understand is that anyone in the position of power is tempted to misuse it. Gender has nothing to do with it just human nature.
Look at that bitch of a woman who got bourdain killed. So sad.
[β]Fantoche_Dreemurr17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Everything about women is near sighted, impulsive and short term.
Give women the right to vote? Welfare explode because feels
Give them reproductive freedom? Genetic quality in nosedive because they become hypergamous
Give them a larger voice in divorce? Marriage is destroyed as they just use it as a tool to get daddy government to force wealth transfer
It keeps going. Look at what feminism considers victory in medias. Take male franchises, switch to vaginas, declare queefing victory immediately before the movies are revealed to be giant dumpster fires and move on to the next.
Make no mistake, unless there is reform in divorce and pregnancy trapping, it'll stay that way. Remove these two and the unchecked, rotting beast that is modern feminism will almost vanish overnight.
[β]Amnesia250815 points16 points17 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Pikachu...so hot right now.
[β]fuckingjakedebrusk 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I... wtf
[β]AgoristOwl15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
My favorite is the "well, he should've picked a better partner!" replies whenever the topic is brought up. "That's what you get with a golddigger!"
Setting aside that they usually hide that fact from potential mates, the line of defense works no where else. And yet the replies are highly upvoted. When someone asked if that'd apply to folk who marry abusers they was ignored and just downvoted.
The bias is, well, I was going to say unbelievable but sadly I've come to expect it.
Edit. Lol wow. This post laughing at hypocrisy caused a nutjob to go off in my DMs. Apparently they're super mad they got banned and it's somehow my fault. I'm tempted to tag him, but that'd be Petty.
if that'd apply to folk who marry abusers
LOL! "OMG he beat me and was drugged up and abused our dog"
Well I guess you should have chose a better partner.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
So by that logic 50% women are trash? Because about 50% marriages end up in divorce and the man always gets blamed for choosing the wrong partner right? That can only mean one thing.
[β]Adem876 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Today, I saw an ad for vasectomy in Berlin.
[β]TheSud0075 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
πππ
[β][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can we have this on the sidebar?
It's a great tool for new visitors wondering what MGTOW is all about.
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