Defining Masculinity - What do you think?

XGHOW · 2020-11-20T08:57:42+00:00

Weird to lump in harassment and bullying with masculinity. Those two things are incredibly weak and idiotic. If masculinity is anything, it certainly doesn’t include weakness or stupidity, harassment or bullying.

“The word ‘red’ describes the color ‘blue’. Now I’m going to redefine the word ‘red’ to mean ‘green.’ “

Okay go for it?

CuriousIncel2 · 2020-11-20T09:05:47+00:00

Masculinity is being expanded to a more loving space

"And if you disagree with me you're just a hateful misogynistic incel!"

Oh damn, so much love.

BillCl1tcum · 2020-11-20T10:38:42+00:00

He forgot to put white between Ryan and Knight

krazyrobus1 · 2020-11-20T13:52:11+00:00

Were bullying and harassment ever masculine? What a gaslight, changing the definition to fit his argument.

Society was built on the foundations of the strong protecting the weak.

YouSaidChicken · 2020-11-20T08:41:00+00:00

Redefining something is attacking it. Andthis pansy limp wrist thinks masculinity was ever about harassing women.

What a man-hating bitch.

Bonjourbonjourreturn · 2020-11-20T10:32:38+00:00

It is a big fat strawman, taking what is not masculine, saying it is and then attacking thr false traits to redefine the whole concept of masculinity.

Masculinity could be imo defined as the following.

Be strong :

•Physically •Psychologicaly (stoicism and calm) •Moraly (integrity). It is the principle of the gentlemen itself. (Not simping but gentle to other men too)

Harrassment is not masculine by it nature (lack of self control).

Because masculinity is the 3 not only one or two aspects. The only one that could be ignored is the physical aspect where you can be seen as "manly" when hard times come. But if you are physicaly strong and psychologicaly weak, it doesn't work as you are not calm etc (even if you have integrity). If you are physicaly strong and psychologicaly strong but have no integrity, you are like any "wimp" and not respected because you dont have bondaries.

NotherThrowaway284 · 2020-11-20T13:29:57+00:00

I don't take lessons in masculinity from people who haven't got any.

BNEDub · 2020-11-20T11:49:45+00:00

I would argue that in the process of redefining or changing anything - it is necessary to attack it.

If this dude's definition of masculinity comes down to bullying and harassment that says more about him than it does about true masculinity.

As for the post he's just virtue signalling I guess he forgot the #notallmen

BadWardrobe · 2020-11-20T11:37:59+00:00

I think that... whoever he is posting this on behalf of isn't going to fuck him.

ZlayerXZ · 2020-11-20T08:56:49+00:00

What can I say, I’m one with my hatred...

Yehiaha666 · 2020-11-20T13:04:30+00:00

But we can keep the defining characteristics of femininity: to be a female is to be a deceiver.

RunawayGrain · 2020-11-20T12:58:46+00:00

"Hope she sees this, bruh."

antinomy-0 · 2020-11-20T14:17:58+00:00

What brand of soy milk was he taking as a baby?

peguy2000 · 2020-11-20T13:02:03+00:00

Feminist psy op

Dead_Art · 2020-11-20T13:22:48+00:00

"Your wrong, and if you don't think so then you get lumped in with everyone I don't like because everything in my life is black and white."

Bourbonandcigars06 · 2020-11-20T13:29:27+00:00

Let’s do an experiment

Change the word masculinity to feminism and see what responses look like

anon_likes_tendies · 2020-11-20T13:31:17+00:00

bullying people that are different than you.

We have leftists and women to do that enough for the entire population

Perseus_the_Bold · 2020-11-20T19:09:45+00:00

Masculinity is also being re-defined to not include women at all. We also do not include pretentious social/emotional manipulation of our gender identity through forced feminist platitudes. Masculinity is being expanded to a more sovereign space and if you can't handle that then you deserve to be left in the past with your naivete.

Grave_Heresy · 2020-11-20T21:33:32+00:00

You cannot expect these people to see things in a sensible way. It's just not possible for them.

CoolDEpot · 2020-11-20T12:48:51+00:00

Disgusting bullshit

dachengchuan · 2020-11-20T13:49:52+00:00

Males were made by nature to: chase, fight, f*ck, die if needed. Men do that in a society, whatever the society. Masculinity cannot be redefined, unless you change dna.

RatingsOutOfTen · 2020-11-20T14:26:12+00:00

Traditional men aren't full of hate. They just don't want women who have had 50 partners and a track record of cheating on all of them.

This is all going to come full circle. By the time I am 60 or so, men will be respected again.

trash62 · 2020-11-20T20:05:04+00:00

So, they are apologizing then?

Who is defining masculine to be hateful? Who came up with the patriarchy conspiracy theory? Who is shouting "rape culture"? Who is defining men as something who shouldn't be around children, as predators, as rapists and creeps?

Who is the one who defined masculinity to be these toxic things in the first place?

Those people take the fucking cake. Masculinity is being redefined indeed!

classicliberal1 · 2020-11-20T20:14:49+00:00

You can tell when someone is an idiot because they use highly judgmental language and yet say nothing about the actual issue discussed. Instead, they use vague descriptions like "being expanded to a more loving space" that gives no indication about what is actually changing or how.

If you cannot build a clear, specific model of a thing, then you don't know that thing. If you cannot describe the attributes of a thing clearly, succinctly, and specifically, then you do not know the thing. This is true for all things from physical objects to economics to culture to emotions to abstract ideas. All things are things and have specific properties that distinguish themselves from other things. If after your tirade, I cannot distinguish your thing from some other thing, then you have failed to say anything meaningful.

emperoresteban · 2020-11-20T20:20:28+00:00

This dude doesn’t even know what masculinity is about lol, harassing women or bullying people was never part of being a men..

Responsibility140 · 2020-11-20T23:02:21+00:00

This guy is an asshole. Correct, harassment and bullying are not ok. So women should not have the right to harass men with false accusations while having no recourse. We shouldn’t have to hide masculinity for fear of jail time because in today’s society women are never wrong, they are always victims.

cast-away-ramadi06 · 2020-11-20T15:04:10+00:00

Here's what I read - he wants to redefine masculinity to include tucking your junk in tighter.

Seriously, masculinity was never defined to be the things he's talking about. All he's doing is using shitty behavior as a strawman so he can pivot to redefine masculinity in feminine terms.

ssebastian364 · 2020-11-20T15:28:52+00:00

This is good guy Ryan trying to get some. He is openly associating masculinity with those attributes when these things happen in both genders. Ryan is an incel who doesn’t understand how to be a man or how men associates loyalty and respect while identifying their gender. Chivalry was only shown by the men and never to the men. In essence don’t be a Ryan guys.

Pdbabb66 · 2020-11-20T15:35:58+00:00

Masculinity is masculinity. Fuck those that think otherwise.

0x3fff0000 · 2020-11-20T15:51:54+00:00

Masculinity was never about harassing women or bullying people. Those are anti-Masculine traits, and always have been.

OrwellianHell · 2020-11-20T15:53:40+00:00

The implicit assumption is that masculinity includes harassing women and bullying. So, the tweet itself is an attack on masculinity.

ManofGod1000 · 2020-11-20T16:05:27+00:00

Ryan Knight - He is one extraordinary simp, I will give him that. :D I wonder how many women's orbits he is on.

monk2019 · 2020-11-20T16:29:26+00:00

Ryan is a white knight

Liquid_Leopard · 2020-11-20T16:29:53+00:00

His tune will change when some muscle bound dude has his girlfriend folded like origami banging her in his own bed because Chad's not a soft feminist ally.

pewdsxtseries · 2020-11-20T16:32:27+00:00

When was harrassing and bullying part of masculinity? Throughout my childhood, i was taught that a person who harasses the person powerless against him is the biggest coward.

omen_tenebris · 2020-11-20T16:39:36+00:00

it'd be all nice and well but it also will include cuckoldry, being a simp, etc etc etc and that's unacceptable

Silencio00 · 2020-11-20T16:46:04+00:00

This people just proved their lack of masculinity. Masculinity never included those toxic things.

DeepFriedPhone · 2020-11-20T16:54:03+00:00

The problem is not bullying or harassment. It’s tying those things intrinsically to the identity of men so that we are guilty of them by virtue of being male without ever having committed the act. It is all part of a cultural and social programming psy op to cripple the West.

NewBoy01 · 2020-11-20T17:11:52+00:00

Said by everyone who can’t even begin to understand masculinity.

sporty_outlook · 2020-11-21T02:03:38+00:00

He is a freaking simp , who puts women on pedastal. Just ignore this retard.

sporty_outlook · 2020-11-21T02:11:13+00:00

This guy's T level is probably close to ZERO

pcpsohum · 2020-11-21T05:54:19+00:00

All pussies

malerevolution · 2020-11-21T16:31:52+00:00

I think not harassing or bullying others shouldn't be just a masculine trait, it should be a human trait. Women harass and bully too, I've personally experienced it.

prelude12342000 · 2020-11-23T23:26:50+00:00

Leftists are so loving and non-hateful. They love saying everyone but them is hateful.

TheApricotCavalier · 2020-11-21T05:56:56+00:00

You deserve to be left in the past

lol. Yeah, Im the hateful one

Title	Defining Masculinity - What do you think?
Author	chemiey
Upvotes	1
Comments	64
Date	November 20, 2020 8:25 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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