AVfM Officially Supports Equal Rights Amendment, Now Refers To The Movement as MHRM, Men’s Human Rights Movement

Eryemil · 2013-01-31T10:00:19+00:00

Good. This means things are finally starting to get political.

Eryemil · 2013-01-31T11:33:28+00:00

Brilliant move, ERA is an excellent campaign for mens rights, and once its passed there will be plenty of court cases and legal precedents!

Anyone else here bothered by the negative bias towards AFvM that you see here on /r/mr?

MuFoxxa · 2013-01-31T16:24:02+00:00

Awesome idea. It's funny, the MRA message must be getting out there more as my step mom sent me a like to http://thechaingang.org which refers to this same avfm article, and she use to be a staunch hardcore feminist. Maybe eyes are starting to open?

jack_gats · 2013-01-31T08:01:28+00:00

I don't much like name changes. What's wrong with MRM or MRA? It's about men's rights, not women's rights. Why dilute? Why fidget and go on the defensive?

jack_gats · 2013-01-31T12:59:30+00:00

Note that donations to AVfM were acknowledged by an e-mail saying "your donation to the American Human Rights Association" or something very similar. This name change can be construed as a harmonisation move. That's the most optimistic theory I can think of. As for me I like MRA. It has a bite into it. It sounds like "men's republican army". Besides, I vaguely remember reading three-letter acronyms had a bigger impact than four-letter ones.

ibm2431 · 2013-01-31T14:52:49+00:00

The ERA has been dead for decades.

Not only that, but it was already useless upon arrival because we already have the 14th's Equal Protection clause in combination with the 5th.

And honestly, a revival of the ERA wouldn't help men. Anyone paying attention to the current political climate can imagine what that seemingly simple amendment will end up becoming (ie: what happened to Canada's ERA).

MechPlasma · 2013-01-31T10:11:57+00:00

A name change that represents equality might seem like a good idea...

...but in actuality, anyone who ever uses the "You're not for equality" argument isn't going to listen to an MRM anyway. As in, literally not. Normal people don't dismiss entire political positions because the name sounds like it's kinda maybe anti-woman.

Additionally, the name AVfM are trying for is awful for two reasons: firstly, a specific point of the MRM is that it's not meant to be talking about anything but sexism/discrimination against men (as in, it's not about general human rights). Secondly, the MRM is not a male-only club - there's no problem at all with a woman joining, but that new name makes it seem like women are... basically the equivalent of feminists calling male feminists "allies".

In other words, I hate it.

blueoak9 · 2013-01-31T19:49:37+00:00

" And indeed we find that the activism that prevented its previous success stemmed from political conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly, who successfully campaigned to keep men in deadly servitude to their culture for the benefit and enjoyment of women."

This is important branding right here too. A very common accusations is that the MRM is all a bunch of reactionary men who want to go back to the past. That's really just a Compensatory Inversion.

Pornography_saves_li · 2013-01-31T07:28:31+00:00

Well....that's fucking stupid.

Title	AVfM Officially Supports Equal Rights Amendment, Now Refers To The Movement as MHRM, Men’s Human Rights Movement
Author	ssj4kevin
Upvotes	42
Comments	22
Date	January 31, 2013 6:06 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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